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Video- David Steckel’s Headshot To Sidney Crosby

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updated 10:09pm, Elliotte Friedman reports Crosby will be back for the 3rd period.

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Chris in A^2's avatar

Looks accidental to me.

Posted by Chris in A^2 from Nyquist Puck Control on 01/02/11 at 01:02 AM ET

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Posted by ChrisinA^2 from Michigan, home of the Old Wings on 01/01/11 at 11:02 PM ET

Of course it does.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 01/02/11 at 01:09 AM ET

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wheres the video of Crosby’s slash they never called or showed?

Posted by DeathMetalNightmare on 01/02/11 at 01:11 AM ET

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Seriously?  The guy doesn’t change course to make the hit, Crosby turns right in front of him.  Steckel was looking up ice (look at 00:36) the whole time as best I can tell.

Posted by Chris in A^2 from Nyquist Puck Control on 01/02/11 at 01:18 AM ET

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It was accidental, though I couldn’t tell until they showed the view from behind the net. When I first saw the replay from the sideline view I was sure that Steckel would get a suspension - from that angle it looks like a clear headshot and a POS play.  But, from the other view, it looks like accidental contact, I think Crosby was expecting the horn to sound because he was not making any sort of move to get back into the play and was moving pretty slow.

Posted by PDXWing on 01/02/11 at 01:42 AM ET

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The report from the stadium was that there were heavy rain showers, but it turns out it really was Lil’ Gary’s tears over his BFF getting laid out. It’s not that he minds Cindy getting laid out – but he likes to be the one who lays him out.

At least the Crosby Suck-Fest is over for this year. But I’m sure Gary’s baby boy will get another shot next year, or the year after that.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 01/02/11 at 01:44 AM ET

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The replay at 35 seconds
Steckel was looking at the puck and saw Crosby in his peripheral vision, and decided to make contact which was blindside, behind the play and directly to his head. You can see him lift his left shoulder and lean his right shoulder right into Crosby. If he meant to avoid him with that movement, he would’ve pulled his right shoulder back.

If you don’t think Steckel knew what he was doing, you’re terribly confused, and misunderstand the level of awareness hockey players play the game with.

Posted by NathanBC on 01/02/11 at 02:00 AM ET

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I was watching it live, and with the camera angles I was quite disoriented. I can’t say this is conclusive, but the fact that the questionable shot came against 87 makes it more likely that there was at least some intent. I can understand wanting to hit him.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 01/02/11 at 02:17 AM ET

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I don’t see that. Steckel is up and already taking his first stride towards the puck carrier when the puck goes by Crosby.  When the puck goes by Crosby, Crosby digs his skate in to turn and ends up in Steckel’s path.  One stride later they collide.  I don’t see any motion in his shoulder that isn’t related to him skating (his shoulder comes around as he puts his foot down). 

I can’t prove a negative, maybe Steckel noticed him at the last moment (in his periphery while looking down ice) and decided to kill him, but if that’s the case he got extremely lucky because in less than a second Crosby did all the timing and positioning for him.  Steckel didn’t have to change course or stride to collide, it looks like an accident and probably is.

Posted by Chris in A^2 from Nyquist Puck Control on 01/02/11 at 03:08 AM ET

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The report from the stadium was that there were heavy rain showers, but it turns out it really was Lil’ Gary’s tears over his BFF getting laid out. It’s not that he minds Cindy getting laid out – but he likes to be the one who lays him out.

Please, when was the last time you saw Bettman try to take the lead?

Posted by CoolJ90 on 01/02/11 at 03:08 AM ET

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Please, when was the last time you saw Bettman try to take the lead?

Well played, sir.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 01/02/11 at 03:18 AM ET

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Posted by ChrisinA^2

I agree. But, should the blind side rule be called like high-sticking? Penalty regardless of intent. I think that should be the case; as noted above, players are extremely aware and should be held to a high standard.

Posted by Osrt on 01/02/11 at 05:33 AM ET

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As a penguin fan i could care less if Steckel is suspended.  I never understood the suspension thing anyways.  Say they suspend him for 3 games, how does that help the penguins?  First of all it is Steckel… it doesn’t matter if he plays or not, second of all he does not play the penguins in the next 3 games.

Suspensions from the league should be modified, where you take the total number of games suspended and divide it by 2 and that is the number of games the suspended player is also not allowed to play against the team in which he created the foul.

So for example, if the league thought the Steckel hit was worth a 4 game suspension, then he would not be allowed to play for 2 games immediately following the last game, and then would not be allowed to play for 2 games against the penguins.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 01/02/11 at 11:21 AM ET

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I personally liked how not one Penguin seemed to give a shit about their “captain” returning to the bench keeled over in obvious pain after taking a shot, accidental or not, to the head.

Posted by scotts0 from New York on 01/02/11 at 12:09 PM ET

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Penalty regardless of intent.

There’s a problem with that idea though.  A high stick is pretty cut and dry.  Your stick is not supposed to go above your shoulder.  Period.  You either do it on purpose or you do it by being careless.  A head shot is much more of a gray area.  First off, half the time you can’t get two people to even agree on what a head shot is.  Secondly, a “head shot” can just as often be the result of the “victim” being careless as it can be the “culprit’s” fault.

Posted by Garth on 01/02/11 at 02:50 PM ET

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Posted by scotts0 from New York on 01/02/11 at 10:09 AM ET

No, Staal, Rupp, Letestu, and Talbot all gave some attention, then the trainer, but you’re right, they all should’ve jumped on the ice to help him up, and I can’t believe Mario wasn’t running down the steps of the stadium to help - maybe he really doesn’t care after all. Shit, you’re right, the Penguins hate their (c)aptain(?).

Posted by NathanBC on 01/02/11 at 03:19 PM ET

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Posted by NathanBC on 01/02/11 at 01:19 PM ET

Well, I mean, according to most here, this is the type of thing where the league would have given Steckel 5 minutes and a game misconduct for, because the bias for the Pens is soooooooooooooo obvious.

I thought it was accidental when I saw it and have no problem with the no call.

Posted by pens fan in baltimore on 01/02/11 at 05:41 PM ET

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As a wing fan, it looked like incidental contact… As a normal guy watching a random video, looked like a shot to the head.

IF this was a direct shot to the head, I can’t help but think it may have something to do withthe Pens knack for NEVER get called on dirty plays, slew foots(or slew feet?) or elbows to thehead or blindside hits.  I think, if it was deliberate, it was a nice way of saying I don’t care if he’s off limits.  The players are going to police their game one way or the other and if that means they have to try to do it coyly, disguising it as accident vs. being able to grab a hold and start fighting someone, so be it.  But the inconsistency in officiating, in discipline from the league in the interjection of personal feelings in matters which require someone to me neutral i.e. Cambellgate, will leave the players only one option which is to make the other teams stars pay the price.  Those have been the rules for decades and they keep trying to get rid of them for the better of the game, meanwhile not doing a thing to reduce player concussions in the league.  I bet he was thinking, if Matt Cooke can get away with it…...

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 01/02/11 at 06:06 PM ET

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the Pens knack for NEVER get called on dirty plays, slew foots(or slew feet?) or elbows to thehead or blindside hits.

The Pens get called as much as any other team.  Officiating across the league is bad.  It’s not just for one team and against another.  And I somehow doubt Steckel was thinking about Matt Cooke there at all.  Maybe it was Mike Richards.  Maybe it was Scott Stevens.  Somehow, I’m gonna say he was probably thinking he needs to get up ice as quick as possible.

Posted by pens fan in baltimore on 01/02/11 at 06:13 PM ET

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Put it this way. It was definitely a blind side hit. Any intent on the hit is very difficult to determine. You can argue there was intent, but all we have to go on is body language, and that doesn’t show much intent.

I’m leaning toward saying this isn’t a punishable hit, but if it were punished and the league decided to start treating it like high-sticking, I’d be completely okay with it.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 01/03/11 at 10:18 AM ET

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Steckel was looking at the puck and saw Crosby in his peripheral vision, and decided to make contact which was blindside, behind the play and directly to his head. You can see him lift his left shoulder and lean his right shoulder right into Crosby. If he meant to avoid him with that movement, he would’ve pulled his right shoulder back.

you need to lay off the acid.  Steckel never looked at Crosby.  he was skating straight ahead looking ahead at the play.  Crosby turned in front of him, and bounced his head off Steckel’s shoulder.  that’s what you get for skating one direction and looking the other.  keep your head up out there, fellas!

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 01/03/11 at 11:27 AM ET

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Watched the replay a few times and aside from the trainer, the only player who seemed to talk to him was Talbot, and even that looked pretty quick. 

But nice try and goading me into an inter-fight.

Posted by scotts0 from New York on 01/03/11 at 08:29 PM ET

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