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Video- Tom Wison Hit On Zach Aston-Reese

No call on the hit.

via Sportsnet,

 

 

added 9:18pm, YouTube version below.

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First angle shows shoulder to shoulder first.
It is a joke if Wilson gets disciplined.

I can’t believe that jackass Millbury and I agree on something…

Posted by arcane_caf from NoVa - Outside D.C. on 05/01/18 at 09:30 PM ET

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As a Pens fan, I think he does hit some of the shoulder first.

However, in the first video at 44 secs and 55 secs he leaves his feet at the last second, which I think caused his shoulder to drive up into the head. Obviously Mr. Wilson would rather leave his feet and injury another player instead of being a man and giving a clean hit which might also not feel good from the giving end.

Posted by BlackOpsPenguin on 05/01/18 at 09:44 PM ET

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Shoulder to shoulder first? What a joke.

He aims for his head.

How many times does this guy have to attempt to injure another player before the NHL grows a pair and suspends him?

Defending this POS is disgusting.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 05/01/18 at 10:46 PM ET

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Just because Aston-Reese got the worst of it doesn’t mean he didn’t leave his feet too. Both of their right foots (feet?) leave the ice shortly after initial contact.
I’m not rooting for anyone to get hurt. I think this is a vicious, legal, hockey hit, that sounds like ended with a bad result for Aston-Reese.

I really don’t care what you want to say about me. My comments were about the hit. You are free to disagree with me.  You’re the one making it personal in a chat room…

Posted by arcane_caf from NoVa - Outside D.C. on 05/01/18 at 11:04 PM ET

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This is a player who virtually always goes over the line and he will
never get the message until the league throws the book at him.

Which they will avoid doing by making ever more hairsplitting interpretations
without a meaningful difference to claim, oh, well, that wasn’t quite avoidable,
or quite the initial point of contact, or whatever they come up with next.

This is a league led by a lawyer-gnome who is trying to deny
the growing science about head injuries and the league’s knowledge
but indifference thereof, in order to try and avoid a pay out to the players
whose brains have been scrambled, for as long as possible.

They simply are not serious about making offending players responsible
for avoiding dangerous shots to the head. Nor do they have any concern that
they keep empowering the worst offenders, who seemingly do it game after game
after game. I thought this was why Pittsburgh traded for Ryan Reaves. Who, granted
is not dressing for Vegas now. Someone has to hold Wilson accountable. Because
the league sure isn’t going to do it.

Posted by Lefty30 on 05/02/18 at 02:36 AM ET

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from Sam Werner of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette,

Mike Sullivan said after the game that Aston-Reese sustained a broken jaw, which will require surgery, and a concussion on the play.

It came one game after Wilson hit Brian Dumoulin high behind the Penguins’ net midway through Game 2 Sunday. The NHL decided not to suspend Wilson for the play, allowing him to be in the lineup for Game 3.

After the hit, the on-ice officials huddled to discuss what had transpired.

“When we have a big hit like that, and there’s a lot of stuff going on on the ice, our guys come together — because obviously both referees didn’t put their arm up, so obviously they didn’t think there was a penalty,” NHL on-side supervisor Paul Devorski told a pool reporter. “So now they bring in the linesmen, who if they think it’s a major penalty, they’ll tell the referees. So they all got together and they said, ‘You know what, we’ve got a good, clean check here.’ ”

Sullivan said it was “another high hit to the head.”

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 05/02/18 at 05:29 AM ET

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We can all agree that Tom is a habitual line stepper, but I can’t honestly say I think the outrage for this one is warranted. Initial point of contact was the shoulder, unfortunate that ZAR ended up with a serious injury. Kronwall has lit people up on identical plays time after time, if he was 6 inches taller a lot of them would look just as bad as this one did. You can see Wilson line him up, lower his shoulder, and connect with the body. If you are in the camp that believes Wilson was in the wrong, then what’s the solution? Are you saying we should just take hits out of hockey in a scenario like that, or do you want him to lower his shoulder and form tackle him like a linebacker? Seeing a lot of anger after this one, personally I don’t think this warrants a suspension and would be surprised if he’s suspended for more than 1.

Posted by MZ2215 on 05/02/18 at 07:11 AM ET

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If DoPS suspends him, its purely academic, the damage is done.  People that expect teams to take the high road after these types of plays don’t understand the history of the NHL, and if Mike Sullivan and the Pittsburgh Penguins expect the league to “do something” they’re going to be very disappointed. 

The hit happened on Dumoulin, they reviewed it - nothing.  This hit happened on ZAR, the refs converged - nothing.  The NHL is saying these are perfectly legal plays and they will very literally allow you to retaliate with some type of violence - remember, Todd Bertuzzi essentially got just 13 games for his takeout of Steve Moore.  The Penguins can’t keep acting like they’re above it.  In case they forgot, Matt Cooke got 24 games and the Players Union - the players union! - appealed against it!  Even the players want these types of hits and violence in the game.  If the Penguins want Tom Wilson to stop, then they need to stop him themselves and not wait for George Parros and co to use the Zapruder film to identify if ZAR was blinking before or after he got hit. 


The DoPS is purely window dressing to feign concern and appease everyone in the wake of the NFL lawsuits.  Players, coaches, media, and fans need to stop acting like there is some moral crusade to stop guys like Tom Wilson.  They have made it clear that Tom Wilson, Brad Marchand, etc are not doing anything illegal.  If you want it to stop, you come out elbows high and put one straight in his teeth, or two hand the back of his knee.  The problem isn’t Tom Wilson, the problem is nobody will stand up to him.

Posted by PMP5030 on 05/02/18 at 07:28 AM ET

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It’s the truth, and I am not advocating a Bertuzzi like response.
On the other hand, I’m not above someone taking half of Wilson’s teeth out.
Reaves was voted the toughest player by a sample of his peers. Not saying
the Pens didn’t get a good return for him. But they’re missing him now.
He’s not an ideal playoff addition, in a four-line league, but he is a guy
who can get around the ice and throw entirely legal, but devastatingly hard checks.
And he might have been able to get in Wilson’s face and give him some pause.

The Pens are in a tough spot. Obviously they can’t
be distracted by one player - they want to win the series.

But so far zero even minor penalties on Wilson for these two hits.

Dumoulin was really shaken up. You don’t see a guy stay for so long like that
after even the typical head shot. Wilson’s MO makes it clear he was shadowing Dumoulin from behind looking for the chance to take him out. Ovechkin coming from the other direction helped enable that. And ZAR, we now know the result.

I don’t think it’s enough to say a guy got a little bit of shoulder first when you can easily see from the second angle that the principle and dominant contact is to the head. Or else how does ZAR sustain the injuries he did and such serious ones.

The league cracked down on Kronwall and suspended him in spite of being out number one D in the playoffs if I recall correctly. And I remember Kronner himself saying something like he was trying to make sure he made contact lower and didn’t drive up off his feet into the head. I loved Kronwall’s hitting but as a Wings fan I could admit: stay on the ice and hit a little lower.

So now we are back to the irony that the only response allowed are more headshots - with fists. Does Jamie Oleksiak have it in him? The Pens have Sesitito and Pedan the last I looked. Neither is exactly a guy you’d choose to dress if your goal is to win. But the league is simply no help. With Wilson, it’s merely a question of who’s next.

Posted by Lefty30 on 05/02/18 at 08:51 AM ET

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http://www.wtae.com/article/penguins-capitals-game-3-zach-aston-reese-broken-jaw-concussion-tom-wilson/20121514

Feet on the ground, shoulder on shoulder.

Again, it’s a shame ZAR walked away with a broken jaw, but it is what it is.

Posted by MZ2215 on 05/02/18 at 09:11 AM ET

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I guess Wilson hit ZAR so hard in the shoulder, ZAR’s own shoulder concussed him and broke his jaw.

No, you see Wilson driving overwhelming into and through ZAR’s jaw.
Any prior contact lower is much much more superficial.
It’s not that hard to see from the most direct angle. Wilson was lining him up with his usual MO. This is how Wilson plays. He does not even intend to hit anyone legally.
There are no accidents with him. He does this game after game after game.

And again, at Wilson’s height and with ZAR somewhat crouched, Wilson
does not need to take a leap to hit him in the jaw. That’s irrelevant.

Posted by Lefty30 on 05/02/18 at 09:20 AM ET

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Nobody is arguing Tom’s reputation and he hasn’t earned the benefit of the doubt. You can argue intent, but we’re not going to agree on that because you’ve already decided he planned to hit him in the shoulder and slide off into the head. Look at the picture, feet are on the ice, right shoulder up because he’s dipping his left to NOT make contact to the head. ZAR is the low man, Wilson doesn’t leave the ice until AFTER the hit. arguing intent and not understanding physics are two very different things.

We’re clearly not going to agree on this, but that’s fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The DoPS will make their decision and that will be all that matters .

Posted by MZ2215 on 05/02/18 at 09:27 AM ET

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Skates on the ice at the point of contact. Elbow tucked. Aston-Reese low, but does have a chance to brace for impact.

Not the greatest angle on the hit, im sure the NHL and most people would like to see him try at the puck.

Wilson definitely plays on the edge, often time over it. I’d give him a game just as a message - if I could. But I don’t think there is anything necessarily wrong with the hit.

Posted by ilovehomers on 05/02/18 at 11:00 AM ET

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