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Video- John Davidson On The Offers Made To Ryan Johansen

via the Columbus Dispatch,

 

 

added 2:33pm, Story on the negotions from Aaron Portzline of Puck Rakers,

One day after Blue Jackets general manager Jarmo Kekalainen lit afire the public discourse surrounding the stalled contract negotiations with center Ryan Johansen, club president of hockey operations John Davidson provided the kerosene.

Davidson, his face turning red as he spoke, referred to agent Kurt Overhardt’s tactics as “extortion,” and termed the summer-long talks as “embarrassing” and “absurd.”

“It makes no sense,” Davidson said. “When you see the numbers that are thrown at us, we shouldn’t even respond. That’s how bad it is. It’s embarrassing. And if the kid sits out (of training camp), he sits out.

“I wonder if the agent is going to pay him his money back that he’s going to lose by sitting out?”

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added 3:40pm, A longer video of both Kekalainen and Davidson today...

 

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Gotta agree. Is was a healthy scratch in the ahl one year, scores 33 goals in the Nhl next year.  What should be be worth? A reasonable bridge contact.  3-4M per.  Not 7. Insanity.

Posted by teldar on 09/17/14 at 02:50 PM ET

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I’d say the Blue Jackets contract offers have been more than fair, all things considered.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 09/17/14 at 03:16 PM ET

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The Jackets expect to start camp with every other player on its 55-man camp roster, but right wing Nathan Horton will be limited at the start because of a linger back issue that has plagued him throughout the offseason.

Horton is “100 percent” recovered from major shoulder surgery two summers ago and an abdominal surgery this offseason, Kekalainen said, but he wasn’t sure if Horton will be ready for the season opener against Buffalo on Oct. 9.

“I don’t know the prognosis,” Kekalainen said. “He just has to get stronger. We don’t think it’s long term, but you never know with back issues.” 

Horton, the team’s major free-agent signing last year, was limited to 36 games in his first season as a Blue Jacket.

-Shawn Mitchell of Puck Rakers

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 09/17/14 at 03:23 PM ET

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Perhaps Occam’s Razor can be applied here???

The kid doesn’t want to play in Columbus.

Posted by Down River Dan on 09/17/14 at 03:44 PM ET

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Johansen’s agent was on TSN Radio today, read his comments at Puck Rakers.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 09/17/14 at 03:56 PM ET

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I raised my eyebrow a bit at his thoughts regarding paying RFAs less. RFAs get less for a myriad of reasons. One of those has to do with experience, and the kid’s lack of it.

You might not see many centers with his abilities around, but you’ll find even fewer kids pulling in seven mil per season.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 09/17/14 at 04:08 PM ET

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The kid doesn’t want to play in Columbus.

Posted by Down River Dan on 09/17/14 at 03:44 PM ET

Why would he, or anyone?

Johansen is absolutely asking to be overpaid.  There’s not anything to justify his tag

But… CBS absolutely *should* overpay him if they want to keep him.

Call it the “Your Organization Is Garbage” Tax.

Posted by Primis on 09/17/14 at 04:21 PM ET

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They won’t survive much longer in Columbus with that attitude.

Davidson said they originally offered $3 million a year for 2…Johansen wanted $6.

Now they’re at $46 million for 8 years…which is $5.75 million a year (average)...but obviously Johansen doesn’t want to stay there for 8 years given the Blue Jackets’ history of not icing a good team. Fair offer, maybe…but what choice are they going to have? How are they going to get anyone with any talent to come and stay there if they don’t overpay for a while until they continuously make the playoffs?

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 09/17/14 at 05:27 PM ET

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Not taking player or teams side in this battle, but the team execs going public with the details of the negotiations is obviously a ploy to shame the agent and his client.

Well run organizations don’t resort to this sort of stuff.


I get that the team is frustrated,  but in doing what they did, in going public, they have most likely poisoned the relationship going forward.

Ultimately the kid will have to sign a deal with columbus (or sit for seceral seasons) , but does anyone think the kid will sign another deal with columbus????

Well run organizations just know how to keep this stuff out of the public.

Posted by Down River Dan on 09/17/14 at 05:56 PM ET

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How are they going to make the playoffs when they throw salary structure out the door and start paying anyone anything they want. I’m sure the team had a plan for what they wanted to do with the salary cap. To say this kid doesn’t have a track record is WRONG. He has a track record. He was lazy. He was a healthy scratch in the AHL the previous year. Because he didn’t care to try. I think at least part of this is on Johansen to show he’s more mature and willing to bring it every game instead of not caring. He’s the one who showed that he doesn’t want to do more than he has to do. Now he’s got to fix the previous couple years. I don’t think the jackets should give in to him and his agent.

Posted by teldar on 09/17/14 at 05:56 PM ET

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96 career points in 189 NHL games with one season of 30+ goals scored, which led the team for one year.

eLITE.

Posted by SYF from Twerkin' with Anastasia Ashley on 09/17/14 at 07:01 PM ET

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Ultimately the kid will have to sign a deal with columbus (or sit for seceral seasons) , but does anyone think the kid will sign another deal with columbus????

People said the same when PK Subban signed his bridge deal.

To say this kid doesn’t have a track record is WRONG. He has a track record. He was lazy. He was a healthy scratch in the AHL the previous year.

All due respect, if one NHL year doesn’t count as “track record” why does one year in the AHL count?

Posted by Garth on 09/18/14 at 07:32 AM ET

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