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Video- It Appears The Wings Caught A Break

 

 

 

Watch the goal below...

added 3:06pm,

 

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Alan's avatar

It’s called payback. All the “backchecking” the Bloos got away with was returned tenfold.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 03/22/15 at 02:03 PM ET

Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit's avatar

If the goal counted, then, the goal should have counted. Amiright?

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from PA now in SC-made in Detroit on 03/22/15 at 02:09 PM ET

DocF's avatar

With all the other things that Furball and Walsh got wrong, why should it not count.  These zebras should have big red noses issued to them.

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 03/22/15 at 02:11 PM ET

Steeb's avatar

I guess we have to ask the question: when is a stick “broken”? Abby’s stick was def not intact, exactly, but it was in one piece when he made contact, and then “broke” into two pieces after that. He didn’t play the puck with the broken shaft of the stick, it still went in off the blade. Good goal.

Posted by Steeb on 03/22/15 at 02:17 PM ET

TreKronor's avatar

This shouldn’t have counted.  Right away I couldn’t believe they let that stand.

This is another good example of a play that should be reviewable.

Posted by TreKronor on 03/22/15 at 02:31 PM ET

Markp706's avatar

I am so glad that hockey doesn’t review like football does.
Its just the way it is, and the way it should be.

Posted by Markp706 from Dearborn on 03/22/15 at 02:38 PM ET

Steeb's avatar

If a goal goes in off a broken piece of stick on the ice, is that a good goal? Because, as I said, it wasn’t exactly in two pieces when he made contact, and then the puck went in off of the soon-to-be-detached blade of the stick, which Abby wasn’t touching. You have to call that a goal.

Posted by Steeb on 03/22/15 at 02:41 PM ET

Primis's avatar

10.3 Broken Stick - Player - A broken stick is one which, in the opinion of the Referee, is unfit for normal play. A player without a stick may participate in the game. A player whose stick is broken may participate in the game provided he drops the broken stick. A minor penalty shall be imposed for an infraction of this rule.

“in the opinion of the referee”

Here’s the problem with this rule:  there was really no point at which the ref could have deemed the stick unift for play.  It was bang-bang.

I’ve sat on the fence for this so far, but…. according to that reading of the rule, STL has no case.  The goal SHOULD have counted because the ref did not deem the stick unfit, nor did he have time to.

Posted by Primis on 03/22/15 at 02:42 PM ET

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I guess we have to ask the question: when is a stick “broken”? Abby’s stick was def not intact, exactly, but it was in one piece when he made contact, and then “broke” into two pieces after that. He didn’t play the puck with the broken shaft of the stick, it still went in off the blade. Good goal.

Posted by harken23 on 03/22/15 at 03:17 PM ET

As is no surprise, the rules are vague.

A broken stick is one which, in the opinion of the Referee, is unfit for normal play.

So from the time Abdelkader’s stick jabs into Allen and starts to break until the time he jabs the puck into the net (one second maybe) the ref would have had to see the initial breaking happen and decide it was actually illegal and he needed to call a penalty.  That’s asking a lot from anyone.

We’ve all seen similar bang-bang plays with goalie masks coming off right before goals are scored and the goals still count, even though play is supposed to be stop right away.  Not a whole lot of difference with Abdelkader.

Finally another fun part of the broken stick rule: Any player whose stick is broken must drop his stick prior to participating in the play.  Wouldn’t being on the ice be considered “participating in play”?  So if we’re supposed to believe everyone saying Abdelkader should have gotten a penalty for “participating in play” with his broken stick for barely a second, should then anyone on the ice who breaks their stick not also be expected to get a penalty if they don’t drop their stick within a second?

If someone scored this kind of goal against the Wings I wouldn’t be happy, but how is it different then the countless other borderline or flat out illegal goals scored?  I mean other than it being the Wings that benefited?

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 03/22/15 at 02:48 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

If that’s what they want to hand their hate on, good for them.  I hope they fume about it for the rest of the season.  Play better hockey next time instead of trying to goon it up and maybe you won’t be in a position for a non call like that to bite you in the ass.

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 03/22/15 at 02:50 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

hand their hate on

Hang their hate

I hate autocorrect

Posted by Hootinani from the parade following Babs out of town on 03/22/15 at 02:52 PM ET

stonehands-78's avatar

cheese

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/22/15 at 03:00 PM ET

d ca's avatar

So on super slow motion with a coaches challenge this wouldn’t have counted.

Then the Wings win the faceoff and score while still on the power play. So no Ken they wouldn’t have still been playing.

Posted by d ca on 03/22/15 at 03:13 PM ET

cigar_nurse's avatar

Just listened to XM radio and a blows fan says the game is fixed. Says Abby slashed the goalie and then scored with a broken stick. He then rants about how St. Louis needs a break with all the investigation going on of their police department and that the investigation should be done on the NHL. You almost have to feel sorry for him. Almost

Posted by cigar_nurse from On LTIR for the Greenville Pylons on 03/22/15 at 04:07 PM ET

Royal Grand Exalted PooBah's avatar

I would say it is only cracked until it breaks into 2 pieces and is then considered broken. He made contact with the puck using the blade of a cracked stick and then dropped it immediately once he realized it was broken just as the rules stipulate.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 03/22/15 at 04:10 PM ET

bigfrog's avatar

I hope they fume about it for the rest of the season.  Play better hockey next time instead of trying to goon it up and maybe you won’t be in a position for a non call like that to bite you in the ass.

At least the Blows were finally called for some penalties toward the end. Eddie Olsuck actually cited interference against the Blows, so hell must have frozen over. I didn’t watch the whole game, but when I did it seemed the Red Wings lost every one. They need to correct it, Quickly. surprised

Posted by bigfrog on 03/22/15 at 04:14 PM ET

bigfrog's avatar

I meant lost every face off. wink

Posted by bigfrog on 03/22/15 at 04:20 PM ET

calquake's avatar

I didn’t watch the whole game, but when I did it seemed the Red Wings lost every one.

I meant lost every face off. winkPosted by bigfrog on 03/22/15 at 05:20 PM ET

Good thing…. we’d miss you around here after booting you out. cheese

Posted by calquake from a.k.a. Covidquake, "Stay the F away from me" on 03/22/15 at 04:43 PM ET

wolverine's avatar

If the NHL wants more goals scored, allow a broken stick to be used to score a goal. (Not that it happens a lot)  The spirit of the rule is to protect someone from a flying piece of the stick.  Kind of like the kicking motion on goals off of a skate.  You can direct it in, just not kick it in for safety reasons.  You break a stick and you don’t know it, goal counts.

Posted by wolverine on 03/22/15 at 06:35 PM ET

perfection's avatar

You break a stick and you don’t know it, goal counts.

I think you’re right about this. There is a window of time when a stick is broken where the player continues to play before realizing it’s broken, at which point he drops the stick or else it’s a penalty. This play was either a good goal by a player who didn’t realize his stick was broken because it was nearly simultaneous OR a penalty for a player intentionally playing with a broken stick. I think it actually was a good goal in real time.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 03/22/15 at 06:46 PM ET

bigfrog's avatar

Good thing…. we’d miss you around here after booting you out.

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I know. That’s what happens when I left out two words . Typing slower than I’m thinking.  LOL

Posted by bigfrog on 03/22/15 at 07:23 PM ET

SYF's avatar

Fuchever.  We’ll take two points anyway we can.

Posted by SYF from impossible and oddly communally possessive sluts on 03/22/15 at 10:51 PM ET

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