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Video- Will Shanahan Review The MacArthur Hit On Abdelkader?

MacArthur received two for high sticking, Abdelkader two for cross checking.

added 8:51am 10/1/11, via Nick Kypreos tweet,

#Leafs told MacArthur faces further supplementary discipline for head hit on #Redwings Abdelkader late in gm. 12 pm #NHL hearing today.

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J.J. from Kansas's avatar

The puck is not nearby and the head is the principal point of contact. Abdelkader is skating into position.

Not really happy about Abdelkader embellishing it by throwing his arms in the air, but if we’re going for consistency, this one deserves a look.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/01/11 at 01:38 AM ET

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Agreed.  Needs to be looked at.  He wasn’t trying to play the puck, Abdelkader was skating in a straight line (he didn’t turn or move at the last instant that influenced the hit) and the head was the principle point of impact.  Also, if MacArthur wanted to hit the shoulder it shouldn’t have been difficult.  It wasn’t a hard hit and Abdelkador embellished it at the end.  But still…

Posted by HockeyFanOhio from Central Ohio on 10/01/11 at 01:51 AM ET

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Based on the Sesito decision, and taking into account the Smith punishment…..

64 games suspended, $573,422,194 in fines, and box of chocolates for every female Leafs fan so Shanny doesn’t look like he’s playing favorites to his former team.

Posted by The Hurricane on 10/01/11 at 03:26 AM ET

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i think the Brendan Smith suspension proves that above being a “repeat offender” and above “intent”, it is in fact injury sustained that makes the biggest difference. they are using that as a litmus test of severity. if you go back and watch the Boyes hit for example, it’s much less of a hockey play than the Smith hit with ZERO sudden simultaneous movement (unlike Ben Smith dropping his shoulder), but the big difference is that the guy Boyes hit bounced up and went after him while Ben Smith lay half dead on the ice unmoving and now has the dreaded “C” word. that is why the book was thrown at Brendan Smith (essentially deemed equal to the Wisniewski hit… which is absurd). by this standard MacArthur will get no more than 2 games max, if not less, because Abbie got up immediately and ran him. that means it wasn’t that bad as far as the league is concerned.

while injury sustained should obviously be taken into account on some level, it seems that it’s still far too influential on their decisions.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 10/01/11 at 03:49 AM ET

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Nick Kypreos says MacArthur will face further supplementary discipline.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 10/01/11 at 09:53 AM ET

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That hit was pretty weak and Abdelkader embellished.  If were Shanahan there would be no suspension, there is no evidence to me that the head was targeted.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 10/01/11 at 10:21 AM ET

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Well, it was reckless and the head was hit. (I, too, hated that Abdelkader over-reacted to get the officials’ attention.)

Posted by SandysWingingit on 10/01/11 at 10:50 AM ET

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Well, Abdelkader got nailed in the side of the head pretty good.  That is exactly the type of hit that Shanahan was given the authority to eliminate. 

If McArthur can justify his tactics, he will go free only because Abdelkader did not lay on the ice like a lox and pretend to be grievously injured.  That would be embellishment, my friends.  In the past, players for Toronto and Pittsburgh (the worst offenders) did exactly that all the time.  About half the time the referees would bite and give some poor slob a major and a game misconduct.  The “almost dead” player would then join the power play.

Doc

Posted by DocF from Now: Lynn Haven, FL; was Reidsville, NC on 10/01/11 at 12:01 PM ET

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I think this is an opportunity to show whether he is out for justice or vengeance with this particular hit.
Abdelkader did not touch the puck and was stumbling when he was hit, with the primary point of contact being the head. This is another person with, I believe, no prior record of illegal hits.
Punishment should be based on intent and circumstances. The puck had not been played and abdelkader was unable to defend himself because he was off balance. To me, this hit was worse than Brendan Smith’s due to the circumstances that Ben Smith was in control of the puck and purposefully moved to change the hit from Brendan, i.e. he was able to defend himself and chose not to.

If Shanahan is out for Justice, the suspension should be similar or more significant. If this is all about vengeance, injury will play a part and the suspension will be shorter.

Posted by teldar on 10/01/11 at 12:14 PM ET

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Looks like he was going for a big hit, but let up when he realized he was only going to hit his head. He didnt explode into him, he just kinda skated into and past him.

That said he’ll probably still get 1-2 games.

Good acting job though by Abdelkader.

Posted by pensfan29 on 10/01/11 at 12:15 PM ET

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Only reason it’s being looked at is because the point of contact was head. Macarthur didn’t stick out his arm or elbow whatsoever and if you’re gonna suspend him, then fine Abdelkader for diving /embellishment…. should have got an instigator for that scrum afterwords too - which is automatic suspension for it being in final moments of the 3rd.

Posted by steve on 10/01/11 at 12:17 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

MacArthur has no prior record of suspensions. Looking at the history of his play, there was a hit in 2009 when he was with the Sabres, but I’ll let you be the judge on that one.  To me, it looked like an awkward accident.

Clarke MacArthur is not a dirty player.

The Boyes hit is the most similar play; I would expect the suspension to be similar as well.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/01/11 at 12:20 PM ET

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should have got an instigator for that scrum afterwords too - which is automatic suspension for it being in final moments of the 3rd.

Not automatic. Wings fans know.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 10/01/11 at 12:23 PM ET

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Not automatic. Wings fans know.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 10/01/11 at 11:23 AM ET

So true my friend, so true

Posted by yzer19man from Chicago, IL on 10/01/11 at 12:29 PM ET

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Not automatic. Wings fans know.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 10/01/11 at 11:23 AM ET

So true my friend, so true

Let it go already. You’ll feel much better

Posted by pensfan29 on 10/01/11 at 12:31 PM ET

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Should be nothing. Leaf lines him up, then thinks better of it and tries to ‘minimize the contact’ which shanny has been going on about how the other guys didn’t in every video. Abdelkader, on the other hand, should get a game for a fake job that would make Avery feel shame.

Posted by Steviesteve on 10/01/11 at 12:40 PM ET

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MacArthur did ease up, but he didn’t avoid the hit. He went ahead and finished it knowing full well that he was going to hit Abbi in the head.

Since they were moving at such a slow speed, he could have easily avoided the hit altogther, if only because it was interference. Because he didn’t, there was more actual intent in this instance than in Smith’s hit (which happened at high speed and involved Ben Smith’s actions contributing to a hit to his head instead of his shoulder).

If Shanny wants to send a “message” to the players that no intentional hit to the head is acceptable, regardless of the level of injury involved, this is the perfect case for it. So now we wait for Shanny to show us that Brendan Smith’s suspension wasn’t just an over-reaction because he’s a former Wing.

And I guess we also have to wait to see if Abdelkader is going to finally grow up and start playing hockey instead flailing around on the ice (yes, it was a dive) or elbowing guys during the playoffs. He’s got great potential as a pest and agitator. Let’s hope he learns to channel it more along the lines of a Maltby than an Avery.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 10/01/11 at 01:07 PM ET

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Targeted the head, but did slightly let up combined with embellishment, my guess is one game!

Posted by timbits on 10/01/11 at 01:19 PM ET

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Let it go already. You’ll feel much better

Yeah, don’t correct someone, that’s stupid!

Posted by Garth on 10/01/11 at 01:42 PM ET

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Posted by Steviesteve on 10/01/11 at 11:40 AM ET

Except that MacArthur could very, very easily have avoided contact completely, especially considering that Abdelkader didn’t have the puck, so he shouldn’t have been going for the hit in the first place.

Posted by Garth on 10/01/11 at 01:44 PM ET

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Embelishment/ DIVE..nuff said. Jim

Posted by JIM MUELLER from restoule on 10/01/11 at 02:03 PM ET

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Posted by JIM MUELLER from restoule on 10/01/11 at 01:03 PM ET

Embellishment after being hit in the head is still being hit in the head.

Nuff said.

Posted by Garth on 10/01/11 at 02:19 PM ET

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I wouldn’t call what Abby did a dive.  A dive is throwing your head back and faking injury.  What Abby did was throw his arms up in a more ‘wtf, I thought we weren’t supposed to target the head.’  Did he make sure the ref saw it?  Sure, but it’s not a dive, he WAS hit in the head.  What Pavelski did in Game 1 last year (throwing his head back after getting hit in the middle of the back) is a dive, this isn’t.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 10/01/11 at 02:48 PM ET

Lindas1st's avatar

Abdelfaker.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 10/01/11 at 02:52 PM ET

Paul's avatar

Two regular season games for MacArthur.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 10/01/11 at 02:58 PM ET

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Suspended rest of pre-season and 2 regular season games.

Love how Linda and Jim blame the victim. Classy. Lemme guess…Flyers fans?

Posted by The Hurricane on 10/01/11 at 03:05 PM ET

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Abdelfaker.

It’s true.  A lot of CGI was employed by well-known special effects artist Justin Abdelkader to make it appear that Clarke Macarthur made contact with Abdelkader’s head when in reality neither Abdelkader nor Macarthur were even on the ice at the time!

Assholes.

Posted by Garth on 10/01/11 at 04:51 PM ET

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Hit to the head, even if it was incidental. Smith got suspended for the same thing. But I agree; Abby better knock this crap off.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 10/01/11 at 05:02 PM ET

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“Adelkader’s doing his best to ...have the referee make sure he saw it.”

Jokes.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 10/01/11 at 06:17 PM ET

OlderThanChelios's avatar

Love how Linda and Jim blame the victim. Classy. Lemme guess…Flyers fans?

Actually Hurricane, “Linda” (she’s really a guy) is a Pens fan. He thinks it’s funny to use an “Amway” Wings logo as his avatar. But at least he keeps his comments short, thereby taking up just as much space as his opinion is worth.

A lot of CGI was employed by well-known special effects artist Justin Abdelkader…

+19

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 10/01/11 at 07:08 PM ET

Lindas1st's avatar

OTC, how ya doin’ buddy?
Shouldn’t you be trollin’ Black Hawk sites. Oh I’m sorry, that’s “Blackhawks” now, since about ‘86. I know how particular you are with these compound words. tongue wink

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 10/01/11 at 07:33 PM ET

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Shouldn’t you be trollin’ Black Hawk sites.

Says the passive-aggressive Pens fan with the pseudo-Wings avatar.

I know how particular you are with these compound words

Someone as “smart” as you should know that Blackhawks never was and never will be a “compound” word. It’s a single-word name. Silly Pens fan.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 10/01/11 at 09:37 PM ET

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