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Video- Where Will Tuomo Ruutu Land?

The experts at Sportsnet discuss what teams would be a fit for Ruutu.

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Evilpens's avatar

Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber talking LOL

Posted by Evilpens on 01/24/12 at 07:15 PM ET

tuxedoTshirt's avatar

I’m calling the Wings getting him.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 01/24/12 at 07:23 PM ET

Ajax19's avatar

I’m calling the Wings getting him.

I would not be opposed to this.

Posted by Ajax19 on 01/24/12 at 07:37 PM ET

SolidTG7's avatar

I learned absolutely nothing from this video.

Posted by SolidTG7 on 01/24/12 at 07:38 PM ET

perfection's avatar

i would also LOVE the Wings to pick him up. He would be an incredible rental player. Perfect for the playoff drive.

with that said, it’s not Kenny’s style to overpay for ANYONE. if the market for Ruutu is really that competitive, I think Kenny would bow out and would make a deal for some sleeper (a la Brad Stuart), who would have more upside on the Wings than on any other team. I just can’t see him trading a “top” prospect for a rental player. A 2nd rounder and a mid level prospect maybe… but unless there’s some kind of guarantee Ruutu resigns for a fair price, a rental player in a league this competitive is just not worth a top prospect. Hell, we have basically the same chance to win the cup with him as we do without him. The cup is basically a coin flip these days. The dynasty era is over. It usually comes down to injuries more than anything else. and a couple double OT goals here and there. With that said, Ruutu would look good in a Winged wheel

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 01/24/12 at 07:48 PM ET

Chris in Hockey Hell's avatar

“I’m calling the Wings getting him”

Not if we get Parise first. :-D

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 01/24/12 at 08:05 PM ET

tuxedoTshirt's avatar

The money managers are in charge now in NJ, and I think they can see that playoff revenues have a greater dollar value than draft picks.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 01/24/12 at 08:44 PM ET

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with that said, it’s not Kenny’s style to overpay for ANYONE.

I’m curious where this BS came from in the first place.

He overpaid for just about EVERYONE before the salary cap era began.

He overpaid when he traded for Todd Bertuzzi.
He overpaid (based on what he wanted to pay) to keep Brad Stuart.
He overpaid to keep Jonathan Ericsson.
He overpaid for Jiri Hudler.

That’s four times off the top of my head that he’s overpaid.

If he wants to win…and he wants to make the team better he’s going to have to pay the going rate for players.

Posted by Garth on 01/24/12 at 11:42 PM ET

Down River Dan's avatar

I’m willing to bet if you gave Kenny Holland & Mike Babcock there choice of Todd Bertussi or Shawn Matthias ( the primary player going the other way in the trade for Bertussi the firs time)

they would both make that trade again, so No Holland didn’t overpay for Bertussi even if Matthias plays for another 10 years

Posted by Down River Dan on 01/25/12 at 12:21 AM ET

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they would both make that trade again

Yeah?  You think they’d trade a promising prospect and two draft picks for an injured player who would end up playing 24 games before signing with someone else?

so No Holland didn’t overpay for Bertussi even if Matthias plays for another 10 years

In your world then, I’m guessing the right price to trade for Parise would be what, Datsyuk and Howard?  Maybe add in Lidstrom as a sign-and-trade?

Posted by Garth on 01/25/12 at 01:32 AM ET

perfection's avatar

Yeah?  You think they’d trade a promising prospect and two draft picks for an injured player who would end up playing 24 games before signing with someone else?

right… but Bertuzzi resigned with the Wings BECAUSE of his regret of not resigning after those 24 games. Of course he may have signed with them anyway, but I think this stint, where he’s now starting to resemble himself in Vancouver, is a continuation of that Matthias trade.

also, all of your other examples are extremely debatable at the least. while I understand why you think he overpaid for those players, you could also argue that Stuart has far exceeded his contract in productivity, Ericsson was actually a discount relative to what he would have cost another team on the open market, and if I remember correctly, Hudler’s contract either went to arbitration or was agreed upon at the last second before arbitration after a 20 goal season… though, personally, I think Hudler is overpaid.

but, OF COURSE, Holland has to take some risk. He can’t predict the future. He doesn’t know exactly how a player is going to turn out. So saying he overpaid players in hindsight is different than overpaying for the potential in the first place.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 01/25/12 at 03:14 AM ET

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I agree with you on Stuart, my point was just that it took a long time to negotiate that deal and Holland was, for a while, steadfast in saying that he wasn’t going to pay what Stuart was asking so whether it worked out or nto (which it obviously did), Holland paid more than he wanted to in order to keep Stuart around.

As for Bertuzzi, so what if he might have re-signed because of his first stint?  He’s been decent when on a line with Datsyuk, but he’s hardly a game changer and if anything, having him around has allowed Holland to not bother getting the true top-six forward that Detroit really needs.

Ericsson is absolutely not a discount in any way shape or form.  How many #5/6 defensemen in the league are making what he’s making?  And suggesting that another team might have paid him more doesn’t change the fact that Holland vastly overpaid for him.  Let some shitty team like Buffalo overpay for him instead of having him taking up a space and being unbenchable because of his cap number.  He’s being paid half a million less than Brad Stuart this year and more than both Ian White and Nik Kronwall, for God’s sake!  His salary should be in the range of Commodore and Kindl, not in the range of White, Kronwall and Stuart.

And while Hudler is definitely overpaid, compared to Ericsson he’s a deal.  At least he had something concrete behind his being awarded the arbitration he got (as much as I believe it was something of a fluke, he score 23 goals and had 57 points in the season leading up to his arbitration).  Ericsson has done nothing to earn the contract he got.

Posted by Garth on 01/25/12 at 01:18 PM ET

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Ericsson has done nothing to earn the contract he got.

Sorry, I should amend that.  He played ok for the Red Wings during that one playoff run. 

Three years ago.

Posted by Garth on 01/25/12 at 01:20 PM ET

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