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Video- Matt Cooke With An Elbow

The Rangers Ryan Mcdonagh was the receipent.  He did return to the game while Cooke received five for elbowing, a ten and game misconduct.

note 3:14pm, Changed the video for one with better quality.

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If Cooke were on my team, I’d be a hypocrite if I didn’t immediately put him on waivers.

Not really realistic.

For one, I don’t think there are conventional waivers after the trade deadline. Even if there were, that would take up a post-trade-deadline roster move and you only get 4.


Bylsma blaming Cooke for the loss in the post-game presser.

Posted by steviesteve on 03/20/11 at 05:50 PM ET

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I wasn’t making this an Islanders issue. Nobody cares about the Islanders. Just decided to take a shot at that joke of an organization. Back to Cooke being an idiot…

Posted by cs6687 on 03/20/11 at 03:44 PM ET

I think you just did bring up the Islanders again.  The Islanders have nothing to do with what Matt Cooke did today! 

You guys can’t seem to stay on subject.  I guess I should feel good about it.  The fact that the Islanders get under your skin makes me so proud of their organization.

I’m with you.  Let’s make this an Islander discussion.  LOL

Posted by RogerNYLA on 03/20/11 at 05:51 PM ET

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I love the way Penguin fans are changing the subject and trying to make this and Islander issue.  So sad.  LOL

My discussion of Gillies was in response to the remark made above by Hockey2219.  As also mentioned above, no one cares about the Islanders.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 03/20/11 at 05:51 PM ET

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no one cares about the Islanders.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 03/20/11 at 03:51 PM ET

I’ve actually forgotten that they’re a real life NHL franchise on at least a dozen occasions this season alone.

Maybe because they barely are one?

Bylsma blaming Cooke for the loss in the post-game presser.

Posted by steviesteve on 03/20/11 at 03:50 PM ET

Good.  Tight game, looking to get at least a point with TBL nipping at their heels…and you pull a stupid stunt like that?  Have to be smarter.  Stupid, stupid, stupid play.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 03/20/11 at 05:55 PM ET

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My discussion of Gillies was in response to the remark made above by Hockey2219.  As also mentioned above, no one cares about the Islanders.

Uh huh…Gillies is an Islander and obviously when you bring up the Islanders (saying no one cares about the Islanders) you’re in fact bringing up the Islanders.  This is like one of those Airplane movies.

Posted by RogerNYLA on 03/20/11 at 05:58 PM ET

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Gillies had two incidences. Against the pens was awful, and against the Clutterbuck, which was a high hit and deserved a suspension, but was a reaction to Clutterbuck intentionally boarding one of the Islanders. Gillies sucks, sure, but Cooke is a a dirtier player in the NHL and that’s all there is too it.

Posted by Hockey2219 on 03/20/11 at 03:08 PM ET

Hey Roger…ask this guy if he’s a Penguins fan.  Because he’s the first one that brought up that neanderthal on skates.

Just go away.  You’re way worse than Evilpens.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 03/20/11 at 06:00 PM ET

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I’ve actually forgotten that they’re a real life NHL franchise on at least a dozen occasions this season alone.

God, this is great!  Eating your insides up, huh?  LOL
The contempt says volumes, believe me!

Posted by RogerNYLA on 03/20/11 at 06:02 PM ET

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UMMMM Where was the Blame for his Incompetent Coaching of the PP ?? 2-45

Typical Nutless, Spineless & Brainless Twit that he has always been

Posted by Evilpens on 03/20/11 at 06:02 PM ET

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UMMMM Where was the Blame for his Incompetent Coaching of the PP ?? 2-45

Probably because this is a thread discussing Matt Cooke’s latest brain fart, not a ‘how bad is the Penguins power play’ thread.

Posted by cs6687 on 03/20/11 at 06:04 PM ET

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OK, everyone has had their fair share of back and forth, off topic talk.

Please stay on topic, it’s Sunday, a day of rest and relaxation.

Thanks!

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/20/11 at 06:04 PM ET

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God, this is great!  Eating your insides up, huh?  LOL
The contempt says volumes, believe me!

Listen very closely: Start chainsaw, then your stick your hands and/or head into it.

Posted by cs6687 on 03/20/11 at 06:06 PM ET

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Just go away.  You’re way worse than Evilpens.

OK.  Take care.

Posted by RogerNYLA on 03/20/11 at 06:09 PM ET

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Seth Rorabaugh’s (humorous, but spot-on) take, from Empty Netters:

-What do you say about Matt Cooke? Lots of things actually. He’s a dirty player. Period. He’s a talanted palyer. He’s vital to the penalty kill. He’s competent with the puck. And he’s amazing on the forecheck. But all of that is lost by the fact that he’s a dirty player. And today, he was a liablity.

-He deserve a 10-game suspension at the very least. But this is a [garage league] the NHL. Don’t expect more than eight.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/20/11 at 06:15 PM ET

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Stupid. Selfish and dirty play.  Bench him. I would say waive him, but then he would be taking runs at Penguins instead.

Posted by Russian Rocket on 03/20/11 at 06:41 PM ET

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Cooke changed the game, and gave the Rangers life when they were outplayed most shifts up to that point. A damn shame when players like Neal were having a hell of a game.

Honest question here, even if the Penguins wanted to waive/suspend him, would that 1) violate any terms that the NHLPA could sue them for, or 2) be possible in a salary cap era where they’d likely still need to pay his salary? I guess they would have to send him to AHL to get the salary off the books, right? Remember, the Pens are pretty damn close to the cap last I checked.

Posted by penguinsfan on 03/20/11 at 06:50 PM ET

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Wow….Pens fans saying he isn’t a barbarian like Trevor Gillies?  Laughable….Try pulling your head from wherever it is and watch the clip.  Looked a lot like the Gillies/Tangradi hit, didn’t it?

At least Islanders fans can admit Gillies is a goon.  Try removing your black & gold glasses and look at this objectively.  Cooke should get 12 games for this.  The angle proves it.

Posted by Mickey Malice from Austin TX on 03/20/11 at 07:25 PM ET

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Well mario,

  The World breathlessly awaits your comdenation of the latest “head-Shot”.


  I’m guessing a press confrence will be held, and fists will be pounded upon podiums in anger at the wreckless style of play in the NHL. These actions must be stopped!! Mr. commissioner, do something!!!


Oh wait…....it’s just cooke being cooke. No harm No foul.  sick

Posted by Down River Dan on 03/20/11 at 07:36 PM ET

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Honest question here, even if the Penguins wanted to waive/suspend him, would that 1) violate any terms that the NHLPA could sue them for, or 2) be possible in a salary cap era where they’d likely still need to pay his salary? I guess they would have to send him to AHL to get the salary off the books, right? Remember, the Pens are pretty damn close to the cap last I checked.

I don’t think they would be able to do anything at all until the offseason.

Buyouts can only happen in certain weeks of the summer, AHL rosters are finalized the day after the NHL trade deadline and cannot be changed, trades are done until the playoffs are over (I think waivers are as well, though they -might- still exist in some form) and a team suspension for something a player did to a player on another team sounds like something the PA would grieve.

The only thing they would be able to do is give Cooke the Georges Laraque/Dan Cloutier ‘even though we’re paying you and you’re taking up a roster spot, don’t come to the rink, ever again’ treatment.

Posted by steviesteve on 03/20/11 at 07:39 PM ET

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@CS6687 I wasn’t making this an Islanders issue.
huh? because you said:
The only thing I can guarantee is that the Rangers won’t be planning an all-out assault on the Penguins next season like that other joke team that plays in New York did back in February.
Joke team? you mean like the one that employs Matt Cooke, and says they want nothing to do with the game if this is what it comes to?!?!
It is funny that you somehow attack the Islanders for what they did and claim it was worse…......they had guys injured also in a previous game, now i don’t agree with how Gillies and others went about it, something needed to be done (for the franchise to stand up for itself)
What was Cooke retaliating against? What sad story will he come up with.
I am an Islanders fan and I wouldn’t hold it against the Rags if they at least did some fighting against the Pens (no matter what happens to Cooke)if they play them in the playoffs or next season.

You know its bad that most Pens fans wont defend Cooke AND wont make any backhanded excuses (like attacking the Islanders, which weren’t playing in this game and have ZERO to do with him)
Cooke deserves getting the book thrown at him. Gillies did it twice, how many head shots Cooke has done in his career?? Has it been dozens of times because I can find a lot of evidence on youtube,

Posted by Pnut from Earth on 03/20/11 at 07:49 PM ET

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Roger, would you please stop spamming a thread about Matt Cooke elbowing Ryan McDonough with stuff about the Islanders that is of interest to nobody? I don’t see anybody from Rochester ranting about the Americans.

Posted by steviesteve on 03/20/11 at 07:53 PM ET

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Mario Lemieux had some good ideas about how to deal with these kinds of hits last week. At the time, I thought his credibility was undermined by the fact that his franchise continued to employ Cooke. I was told on these boards that I was being an idiot.

Again, Mario has the opportunity to do something. I would think a charitable donation commensurate with the team fine he proposed is in order, bearing in mind that under the system he proposed any team fine would be doubled in the case of a player who had twice offended in the same season.

At the very least, discipline against Cooke from within the Pens organization is long overdue. I hope the League throws the book at him this time, but if they don’t the Pens should. Maybe they both should.

Posted by Da lil Guy from Guelph, Ontario on 03/20/11 at 07:59 PM ET

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Posted by Down River Dan on 03/20/11 at 05:36 PM ET

+1

Still waiting…....

Posted by Rumbear from Top O the Hasek, doing the prospect shuffle.... on 03/20/11 at 08:10 PM ET

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Don’t forget, Cooke has two years left on his contract AND a no-trade clause. 
When they signed the three-year deal the Pens had to include the NTC to bring down the value of the contract. 

Trading him in the off-season isn’t an option unless somebody is crazy enough to really REALLY want him.  It’s too late this season to put him on waivers for the purpose of sending him to W/B-S because the clear day rosters were set weeks ago. 

I’m envisioning a nine-game suspension by the league and a healthy scratch status for the entirety of the Pens playoff run. 

Contract buy-out in the summer?

Posted by David Lee from Greensboro, NC on 03/20/11 at 08:17 PM ET

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Dumb dumb dumb by Cooke.  Just doesn’t get it.  Pens had control of the game and then it was gone.  We’ll see what happens tomorrow.  Sure Cooke will get a minimum of 8, probably should be more but Callahan got up and was fine. 

Wow….Pens fans saying he isn’t a barbarian like Trevor Gillies?  Laughable….Try pulling your head from wherever it is and watch the clip.  Looked a lot like the Gillies/Tangradi hit, didn’t it?

I must have missed the part where he punched a guy while he was down and then taunted him in the runway.

Posted by pens fan in baltimore on 03/20/11 at 08:19 PM ET

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I am an Islanders fan

That sucks.

My point was Cooke can actually be a very good player when he’s not doing stupid things like he did today. Gillies? A hack and loser with no skill and would be a rent-a-cop if the Islanders weren’t employing him. I’m done talking about that loser organization in Long Island. Back to discussing real, successful hockey teams…

Posted by cs6687 on 03/20/11 at 08:30 PM ET

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cs6687:

Don’t forget; YOUR team was a bunch of losers as well at one point, when they TANKED for Lemieux and Jagr.  Just because you got lucky with Crosby and got a cup for a total of 3 to the Islanders’ FOUR, doesn’t make you any better.  You gotta win another cup for that, and you’re not doing it this year.

If you want to talk about loser organizations, try using your memory a bit and recognizing the fact that your teams’ method of escaping failure was to throw games.  True competitive spirit.

You fail.

Posted by Mickey Malice on 03/20/11 at 08:40 PM ET

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Contract buy-out in the summer?

He’s over 30 and the Penguins are always against the cap, meaning $1.1 million or so in phantom cap costs for the next 4 years (if my buyout math is right) isn’t something they’ll be likely to want to live with.

Their best hope is trading him for pennies-on-the-dollar return to a team in the west. Even though excellent penalty killers (plays on the best PK unit in the league and leads all skaters with SH goals and points) with great defensive stats (the Globe and Mail ranked him 3rd at forward using sabremetrics in January) that score 15 goal/year, have fantastic work habits and favorable cap hits don’t exactly grow on trees, I can’t figure there will be anything resembling a bidding war in the current climate.

Still, Cooke contributes enough that someone who needs bottom six veteran forwards that kill penalties well and will either overlook or view his baggage as a net positive should be expected take a flyer on him if they can get him for nothing.

Anaheim comes to mind almost immediately. Perhaps Edmonton as well, as he’d be the best checking-liner on that team by a mile.

Posted by steviesteve on 03/20/11 at 08:43 PM ET

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The thing with Mario Lemieuxs statement a while back about these kind of plays…he basically excused Cooke by saying if the rules were in place then this wouldn’t happen. So until the rules get in place, Cooke is free to roam. Mario didn’t take responsibility he just passed the buck on to NHL, yet, his own player continues to give examples of why there needs to be a Cooke rule.

Posted by TheFreak on 03/20/11 at 08:50 PM ET

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Roger, just stop.

The Penguins sent, I think, 4 players to the All-Star Game and missed the playoffs by 1 point (mostly because of injuries) the year they drafted Jagr.

Posted by steviesteve on 03/20/11 at 08:50 PM ET

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Mickey Malice, yes, the Penguins tanked to get Jagr. They knew four other teams would pass on him (sarcasm). The Penguins did not tank to get Crosby, Malkin, etc. They couldn’t compete without a salary cap (you know back when Bobby Holik got paid $9 million/season), so they chose to rebuild. They made the most of their drafting.

I’d like for you to prove where the Penguins threw games for years and years.

You fail.

Posted by cs6687 on 03/20/11 at 09:00 PM ET

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Gee, injuries…..kinda like the Islanders have led the league in 3 out of the last four seasons…..

Point being, it’s a 2 way street.

Posted by Mickey Malice on 03/20/11 at 09:01 PM ET

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cs6687

How long have you been a hockey fan?

Posted by Mickey Malice on 03/20/11 at 09:04 PM ET

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About twenty years. I remember when the Penguins, instead of going for a tie in the last game of the regular season in 1989-90 against Buffalo that would have clinched a playoff berth, threw 79 games and almost four periods of a hockey season down the toilet by letting Buffalo score with less than a minute left to miss the playoffs to gamble to get Jagr.

Posted by cs6687 on 03/20/11 at 09:08 PM ET

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Honest question here, even if the Penguins wanted to waive/suspend him, would that 1) violate any terms that the NHLPA could sue them for, or 2) be possible in a salary cap era where they’d likely still need to pay his salary? I guess they would have to send him to AHL to get the salary off the books, right? Remember, the Pens are pretty damn close to the cap last I checked.

Posted by penguinsfan on 03/20/11 at 04:50 PM ET

Steviesteve was right, but I’d like to see Mario try something new.

I think there is a way they could suspend him without having to worry about his cap (although it would involve putting him on unconditional waivers, where he might get picked up).

You could make the argument that he violated team rules.  If Shero, Mario, Bylsma, and everybody else has talked to him about these kinds of plays and he keeps making them, then he’s an insubordinate player.

My question would be whether the NHLPA would fight on Cooke’s behalf to keep him in the league…

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/20/11 at 09:19 PM ET

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from wikipedia:

The team had the league’s worst record in both the 1983 and 1984 seasons, and with the team suffering financial problems, it again looked as though the Penguins would fold. Mario Lemieux, one of the most highly touted NHL draft picks in history, was due to be drafted in the 1984 NHL Entry Draft. Heading towards the end of the season ahead of the New Jersey Devils, who were placed last, the Penguins made a number of questionable moves that appeared to weaken the team in the short-term. The Penguins posted three six-game winless streaks in the last 21 games of the season (out of which they won only three) and earned the right to draft Lemieux amidst protests from Devils president Bob Butera.[4] Pittsburgh coach Lou Angotti later admitted that a conscious decision was made to end with as the team with the worst record, stating in an interview with the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that a mid-season lunch prompted the plan, in light of the fact that there was a high chance of the franchise folding if Lemieux was not drafted.[5] In particular, Angotti gave the example of a game the Penguins were winning 3–1, at which point general manager Eddie Johnston asked the coach “what are you doing?” in the first intermission of the game that was eventually lost 6–3. The Penguins were still, despite losing ten of their last twelve games, only two games away from losing Lemieux to the Devils.[5] However, Angotti stated that he did not feel comfortable with the plan, even though it worked and saved the franchise. Other teams offered substantial trade packages for the draft choice, but the Penguins kept the pick.

Fail.

Posted by Mickey Malice on 03/20/11 at 09:21 PM ET

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2009 Yann Danis=1990 Mario Lemieux

Posted by steviesteve on 03/20/11 at 09:24 PM ET

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I never disagreed that the Penguins tanked to get Lemieux, Mickey Mouse.

Fail.

Posted by cs6687 on 03/20/11 at 09:44 PM ET

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The Islanders haven’t made the playoffs for the last four seasons. They obviously tanked to get Tavares, Bailey, and are currently tanking to get whomever they get in June. Right, Mickey Mouse?

Posted by cs6687 on 03/20/11 at 09:46 PM ET

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How much more vidence does a league need? That was a blatant attempt to injure and not even remotely close to being a hockey play. At least the refs got this call right, giving Cooke five, ten and a game. Colin Campbell better be looking closely at this and not employing his fool Wheel of Justice. I wonder if the Pens will bench Cooke before it even gets to the NHL brass level.

Posted by Iggy Rules on 03/20/11 at 10:54 PM ET

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OK.  Take care.

Posted by RogerNYLA on 03/20/11 at 04:09 PM ET

Jesus…who’d have thunk it would be that easy?

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 03/20/11 at 11:59 PM ET

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