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I look at him as a Patrick Kane who plays D, and skates inside: who should make twice as much as Kane, but probably makes half.

Posted by MoreShoot on 04/24/12 at 09:35 PM ET

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Don’t quite understand all the hype about this player. Strange to say after he had 14 points in a playoff series, but I just don’t.

I was floored by Ovechkin’s performance when he did that, but he was being blanketed by Gill and Scuderi all over the ice. Those 14 points did NOT come easy.

Most of Giroux’s production seemed to have something to do with either Pittsburgh not playing any identifiable defensive system or Fleury being a sieve. None of this was unique to Giroux, by the way, these factors extended to the entire Philadelphia team. Jakub Voracek doesn’t really have people thinking he’s a comparable to Marian Gaborik nor would anyone mistake Wayne Simmonds for Nick Backstrom.

Even his 10 best moments are pretty light: we’ve got two interviews, two of the same exact poor-man’s-datsyukian-deke (from shootouts, no less) and one sequence where Paul Martin not-so-shockingly quits twice on the same play.

Posted by larry from pitt on 04/24/12 at 10:27 PM ET

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Don’t quite understand all the hype about this player. Strange to say after he had 14 points in a playoff series, but I just don’t.

I was floored by Ovechkin’s performance when he did that, but he was being blanketed by Gill and Scuderi all over the ice. Those 14 points did NOT come easy.

Most of Giroux’s production seemed to have something to do with either Pittsburgh not playing any identifiable defensive system or Fleury being a sieve. None of this was unique to Giroux, by the way, these factors extended to the entire Philadelphia team. Jakub Voracek doesn’t really have people thinking he’s a comparable to Marian Gaborik nor would anyone mistake Wayne Simmonds for Nick Backstrom.

Even his 10 best moments are pretty light: we’ve got two interviews, two of the same exact poor-man’s-datsyukian-deke (from shootouts, no less) and one sequence where Paul Martin not-so-shockingly quits twice on the same play.
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Because unlike Crosby, Malkin, and Ovechkin, Giroux plays a 2-way game. He plays on the Pk and against the opposing teams best players.  He may not put as much points up as those 3 but at least he contributes when he’s not producing. Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin are defensive liabilities who take stupid penalties when things arent going well. This first round series was a good example of that.

Posted by LiteWork on 04/24/12 at 11:08 PM ET

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Because unlike Crosby, Malkin, and Ovechkin, Giroux plays a 2-way game.

Not really. He’s awesome on the PK, no doubt, but being good on the PK isn’t 1-1 with playing a 2 way game. Mario Lemieux was absolutely dominant on the PK. Last year Grabner actually outscored the opposition down a man. Neither of these guys were or are 2-way players.

Giroux spends an awful lot of time at even strength high in his own zone waiting for a breakout pass or just floating around with his stick at his waist. He was one of the guys who stared at Steve Sullivan dumbfounded from four feet away when a single stride would have prevented a one on four goal, was he not? Think Sullivan would actually have been his man in the configuration they were in.

Ovechkin is awful defensively. Malkin is woefully inconsistent. Crosby was excellent right up until he had to take a year and a half off. Giroux’s better than Ovechkin defensively (OV might be the worst non-goon defensive forward in the sport), often (but not always) better than Malkin and better than Crosby only if you use this season and ignore all the previous ones.

Nor is that he gets matched against top lines a feather in his 2-way cap. Jagr was always a wretched 2-way player. Kevin Constantine went head to head with the other team’s top forward line every single game because he believed Jagr could out-possess the other team, not because he was inclined to cover them properly.

Besides, Schenn was shadowing Crosby and Couturier was shadowing Malkin. Giroux was not given a defensive assignment at even strength in the series you’ve referenced.

You’d have me believe Claude Giroux’s Pavel Datsyuk, sacrificing scoring chances because he’s waiting high in the zone just in case a teammate flubs a pass for a turnover. Giroux doesn’t do anything of the sort. For a first line forward, Giroux’s 2 way game is, at best, a median one. He gets back often. Covers his guy often. Sometimes he cheats, doesn’t feel like picking up his assignment or gets flat-out out-muscled and outsized in the corners. That makes his “2-way” game average.

Posted by larry from pitt on 04/25/12 at 05:34 AM ET

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Thats funny larry from pitt because watch Jordan Staal stand around on Voracek’s game 1 ot winner. And this guy is considered to be a top defensive foward and a former Selke nominee.

Posted by LiteWork on 04/25/12 at 04:18 PM ET

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A friend recounted a story about how Giroux, in an off season, played a game with a mens team here in Ottawa. They thought they were pretty good, but they knew he’d blow them all away if he played forward. They decided to let him play goal.

He went coast to coast in full goalie equipment, including stick. Twice.

Posted by Da lil Guy from Guelph, Ontario on 04/25/12 at 06:41 PM ET

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