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Video- Deryk Engelland Hit On Markus Kruger

Results from the first period hit below and Coach Q just said Kruger is hanging around, may be available.

08:55 Pittsburgh Deryk Engelland: 5 minutes, fighting
08:55 Chicago John Scott: 2 minutes, instigator
08:55 Chicago John Scott: 5 minutes, fighting

Thanks to PuckDaddy for the video link while I was slacking on the couch…

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  Tags: deryk+engelland, markus+kruger

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And the fight following the hit.

Courtesy of @fcshockeyfights….

\http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwi73hwsyF0

Posted by Siggy25 on 12/21/11 at 12:11 AM ET

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Total headhunt. Very similar to Sutton’s.

Engelland isn’t a repeat offender, but his victim hasn’t returned to play.  Let’s go over/under at 4.5

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 12/21/11 at 12:18 AM ET

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Nawww… 5 if it’s Malkin, 10 if it’s cindy, but Kruger?  Two games, max.

Posted by sean_o_sean on 12/21/11 at 12:30 AM ET

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Here is the problem with the instigator. No penalty called by the refs, Scott skates over, Engelland drops his gloves immediately, fair fight, no one gets the upper hand. The hawks are penalized for their player trying to protect his team, and pittsburgh scores on the PP.

So the hawks lose a player and get a PP goal scored on him, they won’t play Pitts again, aren’t even in the same conference, so who cares if the guy gets suspended… It cost the hawks doubly today. In this case, like I have seen many times before, leave out the instigator. You already blew one call, you now have made it twice as bad.

Sorry for the ramble, very mad at the game right now…I’ll have to sleep on it…

Posted by pstumba on 12/21/11 at 01:17 AM ET

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One would think that the Pens would be the last team to pull this crap anymore.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 12/21/11 at 01:43 AM ET

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seriously, a leaping head hunter hit… I don’t know if it gets any more intentional than that…  It’s really about the most blatant thing you can do in this particular vein.  I hope Sherrif Shanny uses him as a red-headed step-child lesson to the league.  Knock. It. Off.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 12/21/11 at 02:30 AM ET

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What I don’t like is that he’s preying upon a player already tied up with another defender. He’s got no chance to defend himself at all even if he somehow does beat the odds and see the hit coming. .

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 12/21/11 at 03:32 AM ET

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Real smart.  Crosby’s teammate leaves feet to go headhunting.  There is only one word to describe this guy, DOPE.

Posted by 13 user names on 12/21/11 at 04:09 AM ET

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admittedly a hard hit.

but leaving your feet and JUMPING at someone are two different events.  he leaves his feet because they both crumble to the ice.

“seriously, a leaping head hunter hit… I don’t know if it gets any more intentional than that…  It’s really about the most blatant thing you can do in this particular vein.  I hope Sherrif Shanny uses him as a red-headed step-child lesson to the league.  Knock. It. Off.

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leaping?  where?

if shanahammer bans a non-repeat offender on this hockey play, then there’s no consistency in this league.

Posted by bob errey on 12/21/11 at 04:28 AM ET

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anyone with an eye can see he lets up as he lines up the hawkjoke, hits him AND THEN his feet come off the ice.  not sure where the problem is.  forearm to a player with his head down AND his head leaning forward?  still not sure where the problem is.  engelland lets up, finishes his check, and stops any kind of offense from the F.  good hockey play in my books.

Posted by bob errey on 12/21/11 at 04:30 AM ET

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Love all the hypocrisy. Kronwall leaves his feet on more hits than anyone but it’s lauded here. Engelland does it and suddenly it’s dirty.

Nawww… 5 if it’s Malkin, 10 if it’s cindy, but Kruger?

Cindy? I haven’t heard that a million times already. It can stop any day now.

There have been two hits on Penguins in the last three weeks that have gone unreviewed and unpunished by Shanahan. One by John Carlson of the Capitals on 12/1, when he leaped elbow-first into Cooke’s head. Another by Zac Rinaldo of the Flyers on 12/8, when he blindsided Robert Bortuzzo on a hit similar to Cooke/Savard and Richards/Booth. Bortuzzo suffered a concussion and has not played since. Both of those hits were worse than this one. At worst, Engelland should get a fine.

Posted by cs6687 on 12/21/11 at 08:06 AM ET

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Engelland does it and suddenly it’s dirty.

No, it’s always been dirty, you idiot. If Kronwall makes that hit on a guy tonight, I’m going to expect him to get suspended, because it’s a dirty hit.

Your entire comment is a joke.

“Deryk Engelland should get away with a high, head-hunting shot which knocked Markus Kruger out of the game because somebody else got away with something”

That’s incredibly stupid. I saw the Carlson hit on Cooke and I do think it warranted supplemental discipline, but there’s absolutely zero way in any kind of a sane world that a smart person could say that hit was worse than what Engelland came halfway across the ice to put on Kruger last night.

I also don’t see Rinaldo leaving the ice surface to pop Bortuzzo in the head and into the boards.  Now you’re just whining.

Engelland isn’t a dirty player like Andy Sutton, but that was a dirty hit.  Guy should sit for five.  One of those, he should be forced to watch that hit on a loop while sitting right next to Crosby glaring at him.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 12/21/11 at 11:15 AM ET

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Engelland does it and suddenly it’s dirty.

I love how Pens fans are always the first ones to throw that jab on this site.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 12/21/11 at 03:24 PM ET

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Love all the hypocrisy. Kronwall leaves his feet on more hits than anyone but it’s lauded here. Engelland does it and suddenly it’s dirty.

Find a video of Kronwall leaving his feet to ‘Kronwall’ someone. They’re out there. Easy. Now find a video of Kronwall leaving his feet to ‘Kronwalling’ someone against the boards.

We’re waiting…

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 12/21/11 at 04:10 PM ET

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A meeting has been scheduled with the NHL sometime between now and Friday when the Pens play next.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 12/21/11 at 05:14 PM ET

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Is Mario ready to take his puck and leave this garage league yet?

Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from where free agents no longer dare. on 12/21/11 at 05:52 PM ET

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I don’t get the splitting hairs on leaving your feet.  If you are exploding upwards, it’s a high hit and is totally dirty.  That’s why Mike Richards is so good at injuring people.  Consider that you are watching super low mo.  To me, this has always been part of the charging rule and it would be really easy to be harsh about it, thus forcing players to keep their centre of gravity low.  And yes Kronwall is a serious culprit for this.  Maybe this is Sutton-light, or whatever comparison you want to bicker about, but this is an indefensible play.  Seriously….if you don’t think that’s suspendable, you are cheering your team too hard.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt on 12/21/11 at 07:21 PM ET

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No, it’s always been dirty, you idiot. If Kronwall makes that hit on a guy tonight, I’m going to expect him to get suspended, because it’s a dirty hit.

Your entire comment is a joke.

No need for the name calling, dude.

I also don’t see Rinaldo leaving the ice surface to pop Bortuzzo in the head and into the boards.

A headshot is a headshot. Whether the boards are involved is irrelevant. Here’s the Bortuzzo hit that resulted in nothing and wasn’t reviewed…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veSRlqfoxYQ

Posted by cs6687 on 12/21/11 at 07:45 PM ET

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That’s the exactly same video of the Bortuzzo headshot I watched.

A headshot is a headshot. Whether the boards are involved is irrelevant

They’re irrelevant if you’re defining headhsots, but you weren’t doing that.  You were comparing them:

Another by Zac Rinaldo of the Flyers on 12/8, when he blindsided Robert Bortuzzo on a hit similar to Cooke/Savard and Richards/Booth. Bortuzzo suffered a concussion and has not played since. Both of those hits were worse than this one.

Just about everything is relevant when you’re comparing hits, including the size differences:

Engelland (6’2” 202lbs) hitting Markus Kruger (5’11 172lbs)
versus
Rinaldi (5’11” 180lbs) hitting Robert Bortuzzo (6’4” 207lbs)

And location/ style of the hit

Engelland (into the boards/upwards leaping motion) on Kruger
versus
Rinaldi (in open ice/pick across the body) on Bortuzzo.

To say that hit on Bortuzzo was worse than the hit on Kruger is a dumb thing to say.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 12/21/11 at 07:55 PM ET

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Engelland wasn’t the last line of D. Watch the video again.

It’s a fine line between clean and dirty, but this play was not nearly as bad as the commotion surrounding it.  ‘nuff said.  No suspension. It wasn’t even a headshot.  Not like the Booth/Richards or Cooke/Savard or Rinaldo/Bertuzzo hits.  Engelland was purely going for the clean check. His only crime? Being unlucky enough to have genes for nearly a half-foot height advantage. Plain and simple.  Oh, and to check a guy who has lesser skills and a mindset of “Oh, I’m going to go around these two guys” when clearly his skillset would not allow for it. 

There was NO leaving of the feet before the hit. Engo braced himself for the check and pushed upwards to protect himself and maintain balance.  There are countless examples of clean checks resulting in feet being elevated on youtube. 

Why the outcry? The only reason it would ever be considered dirty is ‘cause the player was being backchecked and, thus, more likely to be a in a defenseless position. But you konw what? That’s why you dump and chase. If you’re not good enough to get around 2 players, you put the puck around them.  You wouldn’t see Toews/Kane/Sharp/Malkin/Hossa/Crosby perform this kinda play.  They know what works and what doesn’t.

Posted by Paul SteigyWalled from Pittsburgh on 12/22/11 at 03:21 AM ET

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