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Torres Suspended Indefinitely, Hearing On Friday

NEW YORK (April 18, 2012) – Phoenix Coyotes forward Raffi Torres has been suspended indefinitely, pending an in-person hearing Friday, April 20, the National Hockey League’s Department of Player Safety announced today.
The hearing, which had been planned for today, was deferred at the request of the player and the National Hockey League Players’ Association.

The hearing will be convened at the NHL’s New York office for a hit Torres delivered to Chicago forward Marian Hossa 11:42 into the first period of Game 3 of the teams’ Western Conference Quarterfinal series in Chicago on Tuesday, April 17.

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Here’s some flame bait to chew over - If Shannahan had suspended Weber, does this hit from Torres on Hossa even happen?

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 04/18/12 at 03:07 PM ET

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Here’s some flame bait to chew over - If Shannahan had suspended Weber, does this hit from Torres on Hossa even happen?

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 04/18/12 at 01:07 PM ET

Exactly. This is where it all began.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 04/18/12 at 03:09 PM ET

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would anyone care about this hit if Hossa jumped up and skated off and finished the game??

Posted by Jason on 04/18/12 at 03:10 PM ET

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And here we will witness the super hero punishment (Weber) vs. super villian (Torres) punishment

Posted by TheFreak on 04/18/12 at 03:12 PM ET

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I think Raffi Torres was going to do Raffi Torres type things regardless of what else is going on in the NHL. 

Matt Cooke did the same type stuff until they came down hard on him so other players suspensions seem to have little sway over certain players.

Posted by SolidTG7 on 04/18/12 at 03:13 PM ET

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Posted by Jason on 04/18/12 at 01:10 PM ET

Shanahan wouldn’t.

I’m prediction a $2450 fine because leaving your feet when hitting a guy isn’t as bad as grabbing his head and smashing it into the boards.

Hossa didn’t die, so there’s no need for a suspension.

Posted by Garth on 04/18/12 at 03:14 PM ET

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Posted by SolidTG7 on 04/18/12 at 01:13 PM ET

I agree 100%. Does some of the stuff in the Pens/Flyers still happen if Shanahan comes hard down on Weber? Maybe, maybe not, but from what we’ve seen across all of the series most people are just losing their cool so they aren’t thinking anyways so I doubt it would’ve entered their mind before acting.

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey on 04/18/12 at 03:19 PM ET

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Today’s Wednesday and the hearing’s on Friday?  Really?  Is the stagecoach running slow this week?  I live in Chicago, and I’m pretty sure I can find a way to New York before than.

Next day this crap needs to be taken care of.  Why do I get the feeling that now with more games the next two games and more predictable Shanahanigans going on, they’re going to try to sneak in a 2 or 3 game suspension on Friday?

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 04/18/12 at 03:27 PM ET

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Release updated.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/18/12 at 03:29 PM ET

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Here’s some flame bait to chew over - If Shannahan had suspended Weber, does this hit from Torres on Hossa even happen?

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 04/18/12 at 01:07 PM ET

Raffi Torres charges so much, he’s got an ultra-diamond platinum Amex card.

The only thing that has emboldened him to make this hit is the fact that he’s still allowed in the league.  I don’t think the Weber precedent had anything to do with Raffi Torres.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 04/18/12 at 03:29 PM ET

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Torres should call James Neal as his attorney.  Apparently, if you claim that you left your skates to AVOID hitting a player, it’s OK, EVEN IF later ON THE SAME SHIFT you have another hearing for targeting another player’s head.  Incredible. It’s ok if nobody gets hurt.

Posted by Mike from Phila., PA on 04/18/12 at 03:30 PM ET

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Also its not like these guys think to themselves “hmm Shea Weber didn’t get anything for what he did, now I’ll try this”.

They just do it.

Posted by SolidTG7 on 04/18/12 at 03:42 PM ET

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Why on earth would they request to defer it?

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 04/18/12 at 03:56 PM ET

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Why on earth would they request to defer it?

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 04/18/12 at 01:56 PM ET

To see the extent of the injury.

Posted by SolidTG7 on 04/18/12 at 03:57 PM ET

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It’s not just a “real” punishment for the Weber incident that might have changed things. It’s Duncan Keith getting five (5!!) games for a flying elbow to the head of the guy who lead the league in scoring last year. Yesterday, Shanahan was all about “oh, well the player hit wasn’t hurt.” The guys who end up out for months (Sedin as the most recent example, and hopefully not Hossa) beg to differ. In those instances, the argument is “well, we can’t take the injury into account”.

It’s one or the other. And really, at some point they just need to remove the equivalent quality player from the other team. In Weber/Zetterberg, that works out like a fair deal. But Byron Bitz (2 game suspension) wasn’t going to make the difference in Vancouver, and neither was Raffi Torres going to be the player that won the series for Phoenix—-unless, of course, winning by injuring the other team’s star players is acceptable. Phoenix should lose Smith, or Doan.

Posted by Mike from Toronto on 04/18/12 at 04:00 PM ET

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Shanahan will just do this anyways: NHL Wheel of Justice

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey on 04/18/12 at 04:06 PM ET

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I don’t think Weber factors into this one at all either. This is how Torres hits and he has always hit this way. It isn’t totally his fault either, he has never really been punished and this is his way of staying in the league. If I’m Torres I would be as confused as hell as to what is legal and illegal anymore.

Some guys get about fifty chances (see Shane Doan) to clobber players and others seem to be the poster boys for illegal hits (see Raffi Torres).  What Torres fails to realize is that if you can do “other” things like score goals or represent Canada in the Worlds then you have a certain amount of leeway to knock out opposing players.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 04/18/12 at 05:18 PM ET

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Shanahan will just do this anyways: NHL Wheel of Justice

Posted by phillyd from New Jersey on 04/18/12 at 02:06 PM ET

I know it’s been linked to before, but whoever made this site wins the internet!

Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 04/18/12 at 06:36 PM ET

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Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 04/18/12 at 01:07 PM ET

I think that the Weber decision may have prevented some of the other hits, but Raffi Torres is and always has been a dirty, dirty, dirty piece of shit, so I don’t think a Weber suspension would’ve changed it (and likewise I don’t care what suspension Torres gets, I don’t think it will change the way he plays).

It’s nice to see that the NHL is willing to take a stand, as long as there’s an easy, black-hat-wearing, moustache-twirling, gen-u-ine villain they can use, rather than a high-paid, star defenseman.

Posted by Garth on 04/18/12 at 06:49 PM ET

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Here’s some flame bait to chew over - If Shannahan had suspended Weber, does this hit from Torres on Hossa even happen?

Yes it does. Last year, Raffi Torres threw a flying elbow a week after Matt Cooke got a 17-game suspension for throwing a planted one. If a loooong suspension for an apples to apples play by an apples to apples player didn’t dissuade him then, I don’t see why a short suspension to an apples to oranges player for an apples to oranges play would.

Posted by larry from pitt on 04/18/12 at 06:53 PM ET

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I think Torres is a dirty POS who would hit his grandma if he felt it would help his team win. With a lot of the gooning in the playoffs, we have (CORRECTLY) pointed at the non-reaction to Weber. Torres is something else. And throwing the book at him won’t stop the stupidity. The stupid is already out of the gate.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 04/18/12 at 08:46 PM ET

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If anyone in the league, players, owners, gm’s, anyone, is serious about ending this, how about the following:  Player gets suspended for the infraction, the team is not allowed to replace the roster spot on the ice for the duration of the suspension.  Instead of 18 and two goalies, you get 17 on the roster for the 3, 5 or hopefully 15-20 games that little punk Torres gets.  Think we would ever see a repeat offender again?

Posted by sean_o_sean on 04/19/12 at 04:05 AM ET

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