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Torres/NHLPA Will Appeal Suspension

via TSN,

Raffi Torres and the National Hockey League Players’ Association are appealing the 25-game suspension that was given to the Phoenix Coyotes forward last month.

Torres was given the punishment by the league on Apr. 21 after his late hit to the head of Chicago Blackhawks forward Marian Hossa during Game 3 of their first-round series.

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I would love it if all the players Torres has boarded/charged/concussed show up at the appeal. Might need quite the large venue if they do though…

Posted by pstumba on 05/03/12 at 01:41 PM ET

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knowing Fehr he’ll use weber hit and other hits in which players weren’t suspended or not suspended longer as apart of the process. I wouldn’t be surprise this goes to court or arbitration.

Posted by FlyersFan on 05/03/12 at 02:04 PM ET

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As dirty as the hit was, this is absolutely the right move. This league is inconsistent. When Brendan Smith gets 8 games for a headshot and Weber gets a fine for an intent to injure, something is out of whack. Torres is absolutely a fair target to throw the book at, but this does not address the systemic failure of the league to police itself in an impartial manner.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 05/03/12 at 02:31 PM ET

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I would love it if all the players Torres has boarded/charged/concussed show up at the appeal. Might need quite the large venue if they do though…

Posted by pstumba on 05/03/12 at 12:41 PM ET

except this isnt going to be about how much Torres deserves, its going to be about how much he got relative to every other supplementary discipline decision this season and playoffs.  And about what was clearly a reactionary decision, and an attempt to quiet the outrage being expressed by the fans and the media during the first two weeks of the playoffs.

I think he deserves everything he got.  But I also feel like he will win his appeal if there is an impartial arbitrator, and I hope he does.  The NHL losing this appeal may finally mean the end to the wheel of justice.

Posted by jwad on 05/03/12 at 02:48 PM ET

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never mind that part about the impartial hearing.  Gary Bettman is the arbitrator.

Posted by jwad on 05/03/12 at 02:51 PM ET

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@jwad

even if there was an impartial arbitrator, I don’t see the argument. You can’t look at the other suspensions handed out this year as your argument, because none of the players had even close to the history of Torres. So look at the hit if he was not a repeat offender, given the video and the emphasis on all the things wrong with the hit and the fact Hossa was seriously injured(which they take into account, reasonable or not, they are allowed to) you would expect the hit to result in a suspension of 5-8 games for a first time offender. Take that number for a first timer, multiply it by the number of prior offenses and you get to something like 25. That seems completely reasonable given the circumstances, especially since the other offenses were very similar to this hit.

I would like to say I am impartial, but I am not, I’ve seen Torres concuss two hawks players in less than one year, both times completely ignoring where the puck was. Not to mention the other players he has injured and his own statements that he won’t change his game.

If Carcillo continues his same stupid ass play I think he deserves the same treatment. I even think Carcillo should have to serve his full suspension next year because of his knee injury. Next time Keith throws an elbow even if its less blatant than the last one I would be fine with 10 games. You can’t keep doing the same shit over and over again.

Posted by pstumba on 05/03/12 at 03:35 PM ET

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@jwad

Be careful with putting the fans and the media in the same boat. The media were outraged, the fans were loving the first round. Big difference.

Posted by xploddan from Stockholm, Sweden on 05/03/12 at 04:07 PM ET

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So look at the hit if he was not a repeat offender, given the video and the emphasis on all the things wrong with the hit and the fact Hossa was seriously injured(which they take into account, reasonable or not, they are allowed to) you would expect the hit to result in a suspension of 5-8 games for a first time offender.

So 5-8 games for a head shot, all other playoff suspensions were 3 or less, thats the problem.  The NHL was not consistent in its punishment.  By the standards the NHL had been using, 25 is way out of line.  I am not arguing that Torres deserves less, but rather that everyone else should have gotten more.  The point is, he has a legitimate case, because of how low the other suspensions were.

Be careful with putting the fans and the media in the same boat. The media were outraged, the fans were loving the first round. Big difference.

Posted by xploddan from Stockholm, Sweden on 05/03/12 at 03:07 PM ET

Don’t lump me and lots of other KK readers in with people who were loving the first round.  There was some great Hockey, but lots of fans were outraged as well.  This was not a media created controversy.

Posted by jwad on 05/03/12 at 04:35 PM ET

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BTW - I agree that 25 games is about right for this guy. That doesn’t mean the league routinely gets it wrong, and has for a long time. This needs to be a test case to get consistency.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 05/03/12 at 05:32 PM ET

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