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Toews For The Hart?

from David Haugh of the Chicago Tribune,

When I asked Toews if he was prepared for the inevitable MVP talk this month, he responded with everything but aw, shucks. The way Rose has mastered.

“As a leader of your hockey club nobody’s looking for that kind of attention,’’ Toews said. “Every team has a player they think fits into that category so I don’t really know about that. It would be pretty amazing even to be considered.’‘

Rest assured Toews will be because it’s an open race. Sidney Crosby likely has missed too much time with a concussion. High-scoring Alex Ovechkin has struggled with only two more goals than Toews (23) heading into Tuesday night. Phenom Steven Stamkos of the Lightning, 21, leads the league in goals and will get votes. Daniel Sedin of the Canucks, along with teammate Ryan Kesler, will warrant attention too.

But Toews, with a Conn Smythe trophy and Stanley Cup ring hard to ignore, might have more hockey cachet. He commands respect as a consistent two-way player who still ranks 10th in the league in scoring and wins 57 percent of his faceoffs.


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awould's avatar

It could be argued that leading your Stanley Cup defending team to barely making or possibly missing the playoffs might be a hindrance to Toews deserving the MVP.

Posted by awould on 03/02/11 at 12:36 PM ET


He’s on pace for about 80 points that’s not good enough to get the attention of people. He’ll never win it doing that. Not saying he’s a bad player he plays a game similar to how Yzerman did late in his career but he was never going to get the Hart. I don’t think Toews ever will either that rate and because he’s part of a good team. Crosby needs to be the 100+ point scorer to help his team Toews doesn’t have to. The same thing goes for Datsyuk. While I’d take him against any of the top players he’ll never get that attention. Just the way it is.

Posted by tmoore4075 on 03/02/11 at 01:01 PM ET


The article also completely ignores the goalies out there. I know there’s the whole, Thomas plays in the East knock, but he’s still gotta be ahead of Toews in the eyes of most.  Speaking of goaltending, if the question is “who’s the Hawks MVP?”, there’s a pretty good case to be made for Crawford (who’s doing his best Howard 09/10 impression) as Hawks MVP.  I mean, if his SV% was just a little lower, say .915 (still great for a guy in his first extended stint in the NHL), those 8 extra goals against could make all the difference in the standings.

Oh, wait.  Ah, I see what you did. Damn you Chicago Tribune, always tricking me into thinking about nonsense.  Seriously, is there a more reactionary media than Chicago?

Posted by dumbasrocks on 03/02/11 at 01:10 PM ET

awould's avatar

I would like to hear Lidstrom’s name for MVP more. I mean, it’s not likely he’ll get promoted in the Chicago Tribune, but he’s as viable a candidate as anybody.

And yeah, Tim Thomas is having a great year.

Posted by awould on 03/02/11 at 01:15 PM ET


I think Toews would be a good pick for MVP.  I always thought the way he played in the Olympics showed his true character… someone who is willing to do anything to win.  He has shown that this year so far.  To me Kane is a joke.  Toews really makes the Blackhawks tick.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 03/02/11 at 01:29 PM ET

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Toews for MVP.

Ha. Oh. That’s rich. If you’re pulling MVP candidates out of your arse…

Zetterberg carried the again injured-Wings from Christmas to Mid-February playing at maybe 80% thanks to his wonky back, and not a peep from Detroit Freep. If one can point a finger at any single player on the Wings and said “XXXXX kept them from falling back to the middle of the pack like last year.” it would be Zetterberg. Yet not a peep from the Detroit Free Press…unlike those windbags from the Windy City.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 03/02/11 at 01:32 PM ET

Puck's avatar

Thomas while play excellent this year has been behind a pretty good Boston team and Rask, although streaky, has been serviceable enough for Bruins to remain a solid team, unlike Nashville where Rinne has by far been the goalie adjudged most valuable to his team in my opinion.
Kopitar has been about equivalent to Toews for their respective teams and not many would put him up for MVP. People still have a Chubby from Toews Stanley Cup.
If Daniel hadn’t been injured last year he would have beating out his brother for MVP for sure and I think he’s been amazing this year so I’d go with Daniel Sedin for Hart Trophy.

Posted by Puck from San Francisco, CA on 03/02/11 at 01:45 PM ET

awould's avatar

The same argument could be made for Sedin as you just made for Thomas. Without such a good team to support him, could Sedin rack up the numbers? Not arguing against Sedin, just saying, no matter who the player is, it’s tough to separate him from his team.

I would have no problem with Sedin for MVP. And I think Lidstrom deserves huge consideration as well, if for no other reason than he is definitely the most valuable player on his own team, and has been for years. Stamkos is solid too, but playing in Tampa hurts his chances (for no reason that is relevant to the award, but still).

Posted by awould on 03/02/11 at 01:51 PM ET


But Toews, with a Conn Smythe trophy and Stanley Cup ring hard to ignore, might have more hockey cachet.

Irrelevant to his performance this season. If previous success was relevant, Lidstrom would have won the Hart every year since ‘06.

He commands respect as a consistent two-way player who still ranks 10th in the league in scoring and wins 57 percent of his faceoffs.

Almost identical to the numbers Ryan Kesler has put up. Except Toews has scored his points with Kane and Hossa, and Kesler has scored his points from the second line with Samuelsson, Raymond, and Tambellini.

Toews for MVP? Er, no, don’t think so. Overrated.

Posted by fcjbencard on 03/02/11 at 02:29 PM ET


Toews for MVP? Er, no, don’t think so. Overrated.

I don’t necessarily think he’s overrated, at least not by my view of what an MVP is, but I also think this year’s field doesn’t really have many standouts.  That being the case, the author is making a somewhat hopeful (and misleading) case by limiting the rival choices to Crosby, Ovy, Stamkos, Kesler and Sedin. There are a handful of goalies and even more skaters that should be added to the list if Toews is to be considered a candidate.

It doesn’t help that the West is so congested at the playoff bubble, with 4th-11th place separated by 5pts or less.  Toews could go from possible MVP candidate to irrelevant if the Hawks drop out of the hunt, same goes for Richards, Kopitar and maybe even Iginla. Basically too much can change and too many arguments can be made for too many players to really say one way or the other. 

Again, that’s never stopped the Chicago press from jumping the gun on anything.  I’m guessing it took less than a week in mid-Feb for the papers to swing from “there’s always next year” to “this is our year”.

Posted by dumbasrocks on 03/02/11 at 02:51 PM ET

awould's avatar

I’m guessing it took less than a week in mid-Feb for the papers to swing from “there’s always next year” to “this is our year”.


Posted by awould on 03/02/11 at 02:57 PM ET

SYF's avatar

Pavel Datsyuk.  ‘Nuff said.

Posted by SYF from Twerkin' with Anastasia Ashley on 03/02/11 at 03:34 PM ET

Primis's avatar

Brad Stuart.

Look at the Wings without him…. ugh.

Posted by Primis on 03/02/11 at 08:45 PM ET

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