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Tim Thomas Updates His Status

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From the earliest age I can remember, I’ve wanted to be a hockey player. I’ve been blessed in my life to not only be able to live that dream, but to achieve more than I ever thought possible.

The singleminded focus that is necessary to accomplish a dream of this magnitude entails (by necessity) sacrifice in other areas and relationships in life.

At the age of 38, I believe it is time to put my time and energies into those areas and relationships that I have neglected. That is why at this time I feel the most important thing I can do in my life is to reconnect with the three F’s.

Friends, Family, and Faith.

This is what I plan on doing over the course of the next year. ...

What does this portend for the future?

We’ll see….God’s will be done.

TT

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I guess he’s going to speak at the RNC.

Posted by FlyersFan on 06/03/12 at 03:44 PM ET

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Wish the media would just leave the guy alone and let him pursue happiness the way he sees fit.  What went down on the hotstove last night was just downright disgusting.

Posted by Wylie Times from CA on 06/03/12 at 03:52 PM ET

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He is using his fame to broadcast his beliefs and is sharing all his thoughts in a public forum for a reason….of course he is to be scrutinized by the media and the public.  If he wanted to be left alone he wouldn’t say these things to his “fans” on public forums.  he would instead keep it to his private facebook account. In all of this it causes his teammates and team officials to have to comment on it.  No way should he be left alone.

Posted by Mr. Nasty on 06/03/12 at 04:04 PM ET

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I am all for people having whatever beliefs they want, but whatever way you look at it, it’s wrong to walk out on a contract with one year remaining when you are still physically, and perhaps mentally, capable of playing.  If he had just gone ahead and said he was retiring, that’d be fine, but the way he is leaving it open-ended isn’t fair to the Bruins.

Posted by NHLJeff from Pens fan in Chicago, IL on 06/03/12 at 04:14 PM ET

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There’s honest reporting and then there’s the negative spin wild speculation (like “preparing for doomsday"on the HNIC).  If his politics were liberal none of this would be reported on.  This time last year in the media his s*** didn’t stink, this is conservative bashing pure and simple.

Posted by Wylie Times on 06/03/12 at 04:18 PM ET

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The Bruins organization have handled this situation with class. Thomas, however, has to make it about himself. He could have released a statement through his agent regarding his hiatus.
Why does TT have to always make a public spectacle of himself? Jeebus. Stay classy Timmy, while you throw everyone that helped you to be successful, under the bus.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!! In ’13

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 06/03/12 at 04:26 PM ET

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There’s honest reporting and then there’s the negative spin wild speculation (like “preparing for doomsday"on the HNIC).  If his politics were liberal none of this would be reported on.  This time last year in the media his s*** didn’t stink, this is conservative bashing pure and simple.

Posted by Wylie Times on 06/03/12 at 02:18 PM ET

Shut up.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 06/03/12 at 04:31 PM ET

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Shut up.

Posted by bezukov from Nasburgum delenda est. on 06/03/12 at 02:31 PM ET

Too bad he’s right. In any case, let’s drop the politics, shall we?

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 06/03/12 at 04:35 PM ET

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If he wanted to be left alone he wouldn’t say these things to his “fans” on public forums.  he would instead keep it to his private facebook account.

Indeed.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!! In ’13

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 06/03/12 at 04:41 PM ET

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Too bad he’s right. In any case, let’s drop the politics, shall we?

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 06/03/12 at 02:35 PM ET

Meh.  Tim Thomas doesn’t live in a vacuum, he knew the media was there before he opened his mouth.  You reap what you sow.  As for the political aspect, does anybody really believe this situation would be any different if Tim Thomas was calling for a communist revolution or some other wide left idea?  I don’t why folks on the right have to get so upset when somebody calls them out for being crazy.  Everyone on the left admit that Kucinich is out of his damn mind.  Why can’t we be honest about Thomas and his loose screws?

Moreover, I hate how people what to get down on media members for reporting and commenting on the news….. its their job.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 06/03/12 at 04:44 PM ET

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I don’t know why folks….

Posted by bezukov from Nasburgum delenda est. on 06/03/12 at 02:44 PM ET

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 06/03/12 at 04:46 PM ET

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The classy thing for Thomas to do would be to retire.  That rids Boston of the burden of dealing with his cap hit and with the organizational uncertainty this creates.  If he decided he wanted to play after his hiatus, he could come out of retirement.  When you’re a 38-year-old goaltender, ‘one year’ could very well translate to ‘rest of my career’.

Posted by Savage Henry on 06/03/12 at 05:00 PM ET

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He could have released a statement through his agent regarding his hiatus.

It would’ve been better for him to go through an intermediary instead of speaking for himself?

Right.

I have a feeling if he had gone through his agent you would be complaining that he wasn’t speaking on his own.

As for the political aspect, does anybody really believe this situation would be any different if Tim Thomas was calling for a communist revolution or some other wide left idea?

The problem is, he was never “calling” for anything.  People just made assumptions based on the fact that he sits on the right side of the aisle.

Posted by Garth on 06/03/12 at 05:02 PM ET

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That rids Boston of the burden of dealing with his cap hit

No it doesn’t.  His contract is a 35+ so his cap hit is on the books whether he plays or retires or “sits out”.

Posted by Garth on 06/03/12 at 05:10 PM ET

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@Wiley Times,
You’re right that the media feted Thomas after he won the cup. Sure, they knew that he was ultra-conservative. They had know that for years, starting when Thomas included his admiration for Glenn Beck in the Bruins media guide.

The media, even Haggerty, didn’t start “conservative bashing” because they suddenly realized that Thomas is a conservative whom the “liberal media” must hate. The media started “interfering” with Thomas’s “pursuit of happiness” because his pursuit of happiness had started to affect the team (which is in the long run the only reason we know Thomas’s name).

It’s not “bashing” to observe that Thomas has put the Bruins in an untenable position—unable to play their 1A goalie next year, unable to trade him (Thomas presumably had the option of accepting a lower salary in the last year of the contract in return for a longer no-trade claude—and rejected that option in favor of a higher salary), at risk of overpaying their 1B goalie in his RFA contract, with unanticipated limitations in their cap space in 2012-13 and possibly (if they toll the contract) in 2013-14.

Do you call that “bashing”? I call it “facts.”

Posted by Ken on 06/03/12 at 05:10 PM ET

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No it doesn’t.  His contract is a 35+ so his cap hit is on the books whether he plays or retires or “sits out”.

Whoops!  I had read somewhere that he signed his current deal before he was 35.  My mistake.  I still think he ought to ‘retire’ if he wants to take a year off at this point in his career.

Posted by Savage Henry on 06/03/12 at 05:13 PM ET

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His NMC clause expires on 1 July.  Can the Bruins bury him in the minors instead of suspending him?

Posted by Savage Henry on 06/03/12 at 05:15 PM ET

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Posted by Ken on 06/03/12 at 03:10 PM ET

I pretty much agree with this.

As for Thomas’ politics, his political leanings are heavy on the calls for ‘personal responsibility’ while his actions show anything but. He signed a contract and should honor it to the letter or at least to the spirit. Instead, he is now taking the path that is best for him and worst for his team. Very underhanded, I think, and selfish. He does not honor his commitments, and I think that makes him a hypocrite.

Posted by awould on 06/03/12 at 05:21 PM ET

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His behavior fits with his fellow Ron Paul ideologues. They are all for personal liberties, freedom from taxation, freedorm from government actions, freedom of speech and religion, but as with many libertarians, they feel no obligation to society or their fellow man.  Thomas is treating the Bruins just like his political friends treat society, with the back of their hand. They are also plenty quick to whine about how unfair things are for them. Good riddance, I hope we see the last of Tim Thomas and his ilk!

Posted by timbits on 06/03/12 at 05:40 PM ET

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Thomas has overstayed his welcome. This has nothing to do with politics, but everything to do with the cult of personality he is creating around himself. By flying a flag of strong political identity, he has amassed supporters to defend his selfish actions. It’s rather cowardly. He’s using political identity to make himself a news story. I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes a run at office in the next couple years, at which time his politics would be totally relevant to discuss (elsewhere).

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 06/03/12 at 05:55 PM ET

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I think the people talking about TT fulfilling his contract are slightly off base—the contract also would allow him to retire from hockey and be released from it. He can’t go play hockey for another team, but he can go do whatever he wants outside of hockey without penalty. There’s nothing wrong with that.

As for Thomas’ political dance, he failed his teammates after taking his protest to a team function (even if it wasn’t mandatory, he used his team’s platform), making a public political statement, and then failing to address further questions addressed to him—-which put his teammates in a lousy position. I don’t think it wrecked the season, but he put a burden on others while promoting his own agenda.

I shed no tears for his plight. He has a choice of making a guaranteed $5m and dealing with the stress of a public profile, or retiring to spend as much time as he wishes pursuing his priorities and whatever brings him happiness. He should have anticipated the scrutiny that would be placed on him when he used his profile created by the nature of his employment (sports) to enter a very charged political arena, and then ran from the consequences of his actions.

Buck stops with you, Timmy.

Posted by Dave on 06/03/12 at 06:11 PM ET

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Tim Thomas has shown himself to be a really selfish person.  He signed a 3 year over 35 contract that has 1 year left on it.  Play the last year and then retire, like you are contractually obligated to do.  But then of course he couldn’t draw as much attention to himself as this does.  It’s 1 more season. suck it up and play instead of screwing over your team who has no idea now what to do with their future goaltending because who knows when Timmy wiill get over being bored with hockey.

Pure selfishness.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 06/03/12 at 06:28 PM ET

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It would’ve been better for him to go through an intermediary instead of speaking for himself?

Right?

Wrong. An agent is hired for very good reasons.
 
People in the public eye are closely watched and judged. In large part, it is up to the agent to watch out for a client to prevent any negative publicity that could overshadow their accomplishments.
  An athlete might not feel that being a sports star is all he ever wanted to accomplish in life.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!! In ’13

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 06/03/12 at 06:29 PM ET

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He has no chance in hell making the 2014 Olympic team.

Posted by FlyersFan on 06/03/12 at 07:02 PM ET

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Tim who?

Posted by pautna on 06/03/12 at 07:23 PM ET

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He has no chance in hell making the 2014 Olympic team.

I agree. Quick, Schneider, Howard, Ryan Miller, Anderson…it will be these guys.

Posted by Ducksworth from Brownstown, MI on 06/03/12 at 07:24 PM ET

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I agree. Quick, Schneider, Howard, Ryan Miller, Anderson…it will be these guys.

Posted by Ducksworth from Brownstown, MI on 06/03/12 at 05:24 PM ET

Howard,Quick and Miller have to be the goalies for usa. It’s great to see usa hockey have that depth at goalie.

Posted by FlyersFan on 06/03/12 at 07:30 PM ET

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The problem is, he was never “calling” for anything.  People just made assumptions based on the fact that he sits on the right side of the aisle.

Posted by Garth on 06/03/12 at 03:02 PM ET

Garth, number one, its was an analogy.  Number two, you’re offering a pretty pedantic evaluation of Tim Thomas’ political speech over the last year when you look at it in its totality.  Between his childishness relative to the President earlier this year, and what has happened since, the nature of his political beliefs and desires is pretty easy to divine.  He doesn’t have to say it for me to get the message.  Playing coy is still playing. 

Wrong. An agent is hired for very good reasons.
 
People in the public eye are closely watched and judged. In large part, it is up to the agent to watch out for a client to prevent any negative publicity that could overshadow their accomplishments.
  An athlete might not feel that being a sports star is all he ever wanted to accomplish in life.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!! In ’13

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 06/03/12 at 04:29 PM ET

You’ve hit the nail on the head Kate.  People have agents to represent them in their public and contratual relations, mostly to keep them from saying something stupid.  Tim should let his agent do his job and stick to what he does best… hockey.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 06/03/12 at 07:33 PM ET

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Tim Thomas’ contract and the CBA prevent him from holding out or essentially going on strike to have demands met.

Tim Thomas’ contract does NOT mean “force him to play when he has personal reasons not to.”

If the Bruins wanted to, they could easily rid themselves of him in this situation and of their rights to him. They’re honoring his contract by not filing to have it terminated. Remember, this is a team that voted to lock out its own players several years ago and will be facing that decision again this summer.

As far as conflating his beliefs to mean he’s calling for a rightist revolution? Man, is that irresponsible.

Criticize him all you want; but the criticism that he’s grandstanding to you? So what are you worried about? It obviously failed.  Are you worried about having to explain Tim Thomas’ politics to your kids?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/03/12 at 08:38 PM ET

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And that’s really it JJ. However like it was said early in the thread, if he was liberal leaning, not one person would even bring up the politics. It wouldn’t even be mentioned in the first place.

Being a Boston fan while it does put the Bruins in a tough situation cap wise, they do have the personnel to handle it. Rask is a capable #1. Now’s his chance to prove it to the Boston fans who tend to have the patience of a gnat.  Khudobin is capable of playing at the NHL level. Boston’s issue, and really it’s ongoing over the past few years, is timely scoring, and injuries, when you have star players dropping like flies to concussions, Savard, Horton, I’d imagine it wrecks any sort of line chemistry.

Posted by Realmk from Boston on 06/03/12 at 09:09 PM ET

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if he was liberal leaning, not one person would even bring up the politics. It wouldn’t even be mentioned in the first place.

somebody should ask the dixie chicks about that.  this stuff happens to folks on both sides of the aisle. most people’s gripe w/ thomas isn’t the nature of his politics, it’s how he’s brought them into his public life and, even more so, how he’s handled it since.

Posted by awould on 06/03/12 at 09:15 PM ET

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this stuff happens to folks on both sides of the aisle. most people’s gripe w/ thomas isn’t the nature of his politics, it’s how he’s brought them into his public life and, even more so, how he’s handled it since.

I agree with the first statement about as much as I disagree with the second there.

A very good portion of the people analyzing the Dixie Chicks thing said the exact same thing. It’s not their politics that’s the problem, it’s them using their fame to make a political statement.

I would wager to say that most people who have a problem with how Tim Thomas is doing this ALSO have a problem with the nature of his politics.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/03/12 at 10:03 PM ET

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I have a problem with how Thomas brought his politics into the hockey arena. Professional sports is supposed to be a distraction from things that actually matter. It is bad enough that the American political system has become an entertainment enterprise for so many, but conflating sports with partisan politics is toxic. That’s on Thomas and no one else. As far as the straw man that if a lefty did it, no one would care - well, show me a lefty millionaire sport figure who has been so irresponsible and I’ll gladly concede the point. It’s not a partisan issue, it’s a lack of respect for the sport and the fans issue.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 06/03/12 at 10:27 PM ET

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Professional sports is supposed to be a distraction from things that actually matter

So is music, much of television, and a lot of the movie industry.  They all fit into a greater overall category of entertainment, so that you would limit the scope only to sports is a little funny to me.

As for your asked-for example? I give you back the Dixie Chicks and let’s please stop pretending that ONLY Republicans or ONLY Democrats bring these kinds of complaints when somebody brings any kind of political discussion into somebody’s means of distracting themselves from things that actually matter.

My concern is that there seems to be a certain level of fame an entertainer reaches before he or she is simply not allowed to use that fame for political statement.  It’s an advertisement using somebody’s fame. You accept commercial breaks in your sports and this is no different. You’re worried that Tim Thomas’ statements rip so you harshly from your happy place where those mean politicos can’t get you? Then stop paying so much attention to Tim Thomas. You’re bothered that the Dixie Chicks do the same? Then your option is the exact same one.

This stance is essentially one of censorship, that there should be a separation of man and state. Gosh it would be nice if these simplistic caricatures we like watching entertain us in meaningless ways weren’t so damn complex, would it?

Disagreeing with his politics is one thing; calling him a bad teammate and discussing how his politics affect hockey is also one thing. Saying that he’s just not allowed to ever talk politics because the simple act of doing so offends your sensibilities is childish.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/03/12 at 10:43 PM ET

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Disagreeing with his politics is one thing; calling him a bad teammate and discussing how his politics affect hockey is also one thing. Saying that he’s just not allowed to ever talk politics because the simple act of doing so offends your sensibilities is childish.

I disagree with his politics. But that’s beside the point for me.I thought it was a bad idea to snub the team’s obligatory visit to the White House - too many people now conflate who the President is with the office of the President. To be invited to the White House is an honor, and the honor is for the achievement in this case. The invitation was not to honor Tim Thomas the man, but Tim Thomas, member of the Stanley Cup Champion Bruins. Just as the invitation is from the office of the President, not Obama personally. To me, my reaction initially was “get over yourself”.

But in the end, what really irked me about Thomas was that he went out of his way to publicly make a statement that begged lots of questions and then acted like he should be able to enjoy life as a private citizen. Have his cake and eat it too. The team was then forced to deal with it a lot. Way too much, I think, but it could have largely been avoided had Thomas addressed the issue’s aftermath with the same forthrightness that he used in starting the whole thing to begin with. I just think he’s handled himself like a jerk, and this latest move reinforces my opinion. I don’t believe he’s earned the benefit of the doubt at this point. If it were Lidstrom who made this decision, it would be seen in an entirely different light and that’s because of how each man has conducted himself, not who they vote for.

Posted by awould on 06/03/12 at 11:24 PM ET

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What sport do the dixie chicks play again? The last “left” gesture I can think of in sport was the 1968 Mexico City Olympics. You ask if I was bothered by the Dixie Chicks? No - because I don’t care about the venue of mainstream country music. Besides that, music is overtly political because it reflects upon life themes. Sports do not. It’s not an equal measure.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 06/03/12 at 11:29 PM ET

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Posted by awould on 06/03/12 at 09:24 PM ET

Well-said.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 06/03/12 at 09:29 PM ET

What a cop-out.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/03/12 at 11:37 PM ET

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As far as conflating his beliefs to mean he’s calling for a rightist revolution? Man, is that irresponsible.

Criticize him all you want; but the criticism that he’s grandstanding to you? So what are you worried about? It obviously failed.  Are you worried about having to explain Tim Thomas’ politics to your kids?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/03/12 at 06:38 PM ET

I’m not sure if this was directed at me or not, but I just want to repeat: My remark earlier was an analogy.  Tim Thomas hasn’t said anything that makes me think he wants a rightist overthrow of the government.  My point was that Thomas had to expect the uproar, and that whether left or right, extreme opinions draw fire.  Perhaps I was guilty of using too strong a comparison, but I had faith that everyone here could get their head around it.

I understand where you are coming from about celebrities and the expectation that they keep their opinions to themselves.  At the end of the day it probably isn’t fair to them.  That part of fame has to be tiresome.

On the other hand, you’d have to buy me a lot of drinks before I’d believe that athletes and celebrities didn’t know what they were getting themselves into when they signed up. The legal doctrine of assumed risk comes to mind here, so my sympathy for Thomas and the like goes down proportionately.  I really disagree that everyone else is supposed to back off and let him waste out air at will.

I think that there is also some weight to the idea that America’s “common folk” get tired of being preached at by the rich and famous.  That has to play into this one way or another.  If Tim Thomas really wants a seat at the table with Rosie O’Donnell and Rush Limbaugh, let him have it.  I’m not going to feel sorry for him.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 06/03/12 at 11:45 PM ET

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Hello Sports Fans!

This is a sports blog, right?  Or, did I stumble into the Fox News message boards by accident?  Eyes on the prize, dudes.

I think Thomas is being a little dramatic here, regardless of his politics.  It reminds me of when Dominic Hasek announced that he was going to retire the first time a FULL SEASON before he actually retired.  The whole year was a media spectacle.  It didn’t sit well with me when Dom did it, and it’s not sitting well with me now. 

Of course, I was more than willing to forgive the Dominator when he came to the Wings smile

Just make a decision about retiring and do it.  Stick with it.  Don’t create this huge media spectacle and distraction for your teammates.  In this instance, Timmy should ask WWLD… what would Lidstrom do?  He would stop being a drama queen and make a decision.

Either way, $20 says Thomas gets bored half way through the season and rejoins the team after Christmas, starts griping about his playing time, and makes an announcement in April that we will retire at the end of the season.

Posted by John from Pittsburgh, PA (Wings fan for life!) on 06/04/12 at 12:37 AM ET

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Music and other entertainment is personal and expressive, so it’s not an exact parallel.

I think there’s a reasonable expectation from fans and from teammates for Thomas to deal with questions asked of him after he skipped a team event, issued a political statement in a public forum, and drew a great deal of attention to his own agenda. As a private citizen who was also not contractually obligated to attend the event, he had every right to skip it, and I don’t really care about his views. He didn’t deal with the scrutiny that followed from that personal decision, and that’s a shame for him, his team, and the league. This should all go away if he addresses the issue (skipping the WH ceremony) in a considerate manner that acknowledges the pride and passion people have in honoring the executive office.

If he does that and people continue to bag him, I’ll join him in his doomsday bunker, tin foil hat and all.

Posted by Dave on 06/04/12 at 12:45 AM ET

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