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Three Scenarios For The Coyotes

from Bruce Arthur of the National Post,

One, the Coyotes are packed up within the next month or so and moved to Quebec City, where la Colisée is hastily renovated with city money, and the party lasts all night and through much of the summer, and those who own provincial liquor distributorships or local bars are eventually able to buy their own islands.

Two, the Coyotes are moved to Seattle, which seems far more complicated. The arena plan put forward by hedge fund magnate Christopher Hansen and the city of Seattle last month is predicated on an NBA team first, though the NHL says Seattle could work for them irrespective of Hansen’s plan.

“Yes, I do believe that is possible,” NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly wrote in an email. “But even if done in conjunction for purposes of a new arena, that plan wouldn’t necessitate NBA expansion or relocation for next year.” He added that an NHL team could theoretically move to Seattle without an NBA team ever doing the same. Since there is no public arena plan in Seattle other than the one put forward by Hansen last month, and since there has been no public arena plan approved by the city and county since the Sonics left, and since Key Arena is frankly unsuitable for hockey, this seems a difficult trick.

Three, the Coyotes stay in Phoenix for another year, or in the realm of the least improbable eventualities, even longer. Daly declined to provide an update, saying “We are continuing to work on a Glendale solution.” This would likely require the NHL and Glendale both paying bills they would prefer not to pay, though it is said there are some in Quebec City who would not be entirely surprised by this.


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Or the most likely possibility of Greg Jamision or Jerry Reinsdorf become the new owner of the coyotes. come on now people need to freaking think. Colise is not a viable option neither is seattle. The Coyotes are staying put in Glendale plain and simple. Do the research.

Posted by jonathon from peoria, az on 03/28/12 at 10:09 PM ET


Do your research jonathon, Quebec is ready for next year if a team need to move wink


Posted by BOB from QC on 03/28/12 at 10:13 PM ET

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Jon, I know you’re a fan and you hate the thought of losing your team but the Coyotes are NOT staying in that hockey wasteland. The team is bleeding money and new ownership won’t help that. If Bettman wasn’t so darn stubborn the team would’ve been in Canada a yr ago. This team will be in Quebec in the next year or two.

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 03/28/12 at 10:50 PM ET


This team will be in Quebec in the next year or two.

Funny Daly talked about how Seattle was very viable, not QC. Bettman has commented positively about Seattle and Daly has on multiple other occasions. If you recall they both prefaced the Thrasher move to Winnipeg in positive terms. Bettman referred to Winnipeg as “intriguing” a year before the move. I have yet to see them make any statement about QC to encourage them. Also, Seattle is prime territory after the NBA scorched earth treatment of the Sonics.

Posted by timbits on 03/28/12 at 11:01 PM ET


It is believed that the league favours Seattle, the 12th-largest metro area in the United States, but is split on which option is more likely. It is believed that a prospective NHL owner for Seattle has already been identified.

Posted by timbits on 03/28/12 at 11:05 PM ET


Do your research jonathon, Quebec is ready for next year if a team need to move

Yeah, but is the NHL ready to have a team play in a 40 year old building with only 15,000 seats?

Posted by jwad on 03/28/12 at 11:22 PM ET


Yeah, but is the NHL ready to have a team play in a 40 year old building with only 15,000 seats?

They moved the Thrashers to a city with an arena that has 15,000 seats last year.

Oh, and Quebec has this thing where the people love hockey.

Posted by Garth on 03/29/12 at 10:00 AM ET

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Posted by Garth on 03/29/12 at 09:00 AM ET

But the MTC Centre is a new building, built in 2004. Why it wasn’t built larger, I don’t know. If I had my guess, I still say the Coyotes wind up in a western city, either Seattle or KC, and QC and other potential eastern cities go the expansion route (or get the Islanders) to get to 32 teams.

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey on 03/29/12 at 10:43 AM ET

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You could probably not get all parties to agree to this, but I think a two-year lease in Kansas City (with options for a third and possibly fourth) would work.  I remain staunch that KC will not support a hockey team long-term, but just about anywhere will give you two years’ of interest better than Glendale has and KC is the only place that has an 18,000 seat arena that’s ready right now.

You tell Kansas City that this is their true proving ground. If they want to be considered for a hockey team later, they need to show people they can support it.

Then, you tell Seattle and QC “Show us your plans to build an arena to support this team which is waiting for its new permanent home.  Preference will be given to the city which shows the best combination of future planning and present working towards that goal.”

After two years, you pick the winning city and ta-da! You’ve got the best for everybody (except for the city which loses the bid and for Glendale… but I don’t care about either of those things.)

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/29/12 at 11:23 AM ET


Oh, and Quebec has this thing where the people love hockey.

This has never been about which city loves hockey more, or even if the Coyotes franchise would make more money in Canada.  The franchise obviously would make more money in Quebec.

The NHL clearly thinks that a new american market will be more profitable for the league as a whole, in the long run then another team in Canada The Canadian market just isnt that large.  Another canadian team may sell more tickets then they do in Pheonix, but it isnt going to substantially grow the NHL fan base, and it wont bring much more in TV or advertising or merchandising revenue in the long run. 

All those people who are potential hockey fans in a new market are more profitable for the NHL then all those people who already love hockey and are already part of the fan base in Quebec.

Posted by jwad on 03/29/12 at 12:24 PM ET


Quebec is more viable than Seattle at this moment because at least in Quebec they are getting ready to put a shovel in the dirt for a new arena. As of now, there are no such plans in Seattle, just talks. Key Arena is completely unsuitable for NHL hockey for the long-term.

The Phoenix market is not the problem; the problem was the decision to build in Glendale. The Coyotes have simply never been able to overcome that, and I get the sense that even with new ownership, you’ll never be able to fix that inherent disadvantage. The population base and the money are in the East Valley and getting to the West Valley from those locales is a total pain in the ass. Building way out there was a spectacular miscalculation. I love Phoenix and would love to see it work but unfortunately I can’t see how they overcome that.

Posted by Eric H. on 03/29/12 at 01:55 PM ET

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Maybe the Coyotes should just be eliminated along with the BJ’s?  Anyone ever think about that?  The NHL went gung-ho for expansion and there is just not enough love of the sport to support so many teams.  The talent is spread too thin.  I think 28 teams would be perfect.  4 divisions of 7 teams each.  I don’t know if any of these new options would work anyway.  Quebec maybe.  Milwaukee possibly.  Seattle likely not b/c of the close proximity to Vancouver.  Only Bettman’s Iron Fist determines the destiny of the yotes.

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 03/29/12 at 09:45 PM ET

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