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UPDATED: Thoughts on the Crosby speculation: Penguins/Bylsma could make statement

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Rob Rossi has tweeted a comment from Pens’ GM Ray Shero: Shero on #Crosby: “There are going to be some symptoms with this injury, but nothing where he’s had to shut it down or anything.”

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Many folks have speculated about Sidney Crosby’s health since his concussion initially occurred back in January. That group contains many mainstream media members, bloggers, radio personalities etc, but all of the hardcore info on the situation has come from the above mentioned entities.

I have yet to officially weigh in on the Sidney Crosby speculation from earlier this afternoon, but as the hours have rolled by the story has only gathered more momentum.

Those of you that have discussed the situation with me via text message or twitter this afternoon already know my stance, but I figured that a brief blog was in order. First of all, I do not buy into any Sidney Crosby news unless it comes from Crosby, his family, his agent Pat Brisson, or the Penguins themselves.

Many folks have speculated about Crosby’s health since his concussion initially occurred back in January. That group contains many mainstream media members, bloggers, radio personalities etc, but all of the hardcore info on the situation has come from the above mentioned entities.

Crosby’s camp and the team itself have been very upfront with information as it has become available throughout this situation. Now that isn’t to say that they have updated us as often as we would have liked, but they have been the only ones with accurate info on 87’s recovery.

Keeping that in mind, it isn’t surprising to see the Tribune Review’s Rob Rossi tweet and then write about the fact that the team could have some sort of update on the Crosby rumors tomorrow afternoon. They pretty have to issue some kind of statement.
For one, the speculation ran rampant after a tweet from an individual (Josh Rimer – XM Radio) who likely has access to accurate information – at least from a standpoint of interacting with the hockey world on a fairly regular basis. Second, the rumor has spawned hundreds, if not thousands of stories, including one on Yahoo Sport’s Puck Daddy blog.

If it is one thing that I have learned over my years of dealing with the Penguins it is that they do not like rumors and speculation that cause their “beat reporters” to start blowing up the phones asking why they don’t or didn’t have the information.
The Penguins and head coach Dan Bylsma will either squash or confirm the reports tomorrow, though I expect something along the lines of, “Crosby started his on ice work out regime back in July and it will continue. We are monitoring him and he is making good progress.” 

It is also worth noting that this time of year has many suffering from allergies lately – including me – that affliction comes with stuffiness, sinus aches, and yes… headaches. It is very possible that Crosby has been dealing with a sinus infection or something like it, which was the culprit the last time news of a possible setback circulated.

Being as that I have worked with the boys at XM radio for a number of years, I am certain that Rimer got his information from reliable sources. However, we will have to wait for tomorrow’s statement to find out if it was all accurate.
I will have an update following whatever statement the team makes tomorrow afternoon… if a statement comes!

Read Rob Rossi’s take on the situation here: Rob Rossi Pittsburgh Tribune Review

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AxeMaster9's avatar

Appreciate where I am coming from with this, I am not a Sidney Crosby “fan” to say the least but I truly hope he makes a full come back and continues his amazing career so I can continue to root against him as a player, not as a human being.  Fan is in quotations because in the end these guys play a game and rivalry or not, I don’t know Crosby as a person.  Maybe he is a great guy, maybe not but you never want to wish harm on someone.  Maybe Pronger…Maybe not…

Posted by AxeMaster9 on 08/15/11 at 02:32 AM ET

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Stories like these are so tough to follow because of the uncertain nature of concussions.  It is amazing how one tweet can set off so much speculation.

Posted by Gunner Staal from Rochester, NY on 08/15/11 at 02:51 AM ET

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At this point, the NHL is better with Crosby in it, the Penguins are better with Crosby as their captain and I just want him to be healthy and get back to being the player I dislike because he’s so damn good.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he has had some headaches here and there, but this speculation is…It’s typical August stuff. I’m hoping that he’s going to be a-OK and will be ready to go during training camp, but in terms of reports by radio jocks, even well-connected ones…one must be cautious and wait for the official word before completely freaking out. I hope he’s just fine.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 08/15/11 at 02:52 AM ET

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I know it! It was a crazy day… sorry for the delay in getting back to you specifically Gunner… figured I would just blog on it.

B Metz

Posted by brianmetzer on 08/15/11 at 02:53 AM ET

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I agree George… completely. I hadn’t heard anything about this in town… nor had any of the folks I regularly talk to about Sid etc. (at least officially)

These stories often come out of Canada. As you said, it is August and a whisper here, or a comment there turn into a HUGE deal…

B

Posted by brianmetzer on 08/15/11 at 02:57 AM ET

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No problem Metz.  The other thing that adds fuel to the fire is that it is August and not much hockey related stuff to talk about.  So any whiff of 87 news and the media avalanche will follow.  Im equally guilty of being sucked in.

Posted by Gunner Staal from Rochester, NY on 08/15/11 at 03:10 AM ET

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The Penguins and head coach Dan Bylsma will either squash or confirm the reports tomorrow, though I expect something along the lines of, “Crosby started his on ice work out regime back in July and it will continue. We are monitoring him and he is making good progress.”

But that’s a non-answer though, Metz.  And if that’s the case, and that’s the answer, Pens fans better prepare for the worst because it means Sid’s having genuine problems and isn’t ready.

As I stated in the other thread on this, if Sid were fine there’d be no reason to step so daintily around this subject.  The fact that they seem to be, and will seem to continue to do so, is not encouraging.

Forget this Rimer fellow and what he says —until someone comes out and says Crosby’s fine and returning, he’s not fine, and he’s not returning.  And the fact that nobody has come out and said this yet can only mean that he’s not.  So unless Shero, Bylsma, and/or Crosby come out and say “I’m fine and will be ready opening night”, he’s not and won’t be.

And that *should* have fans speculating and scared.

Posted by Primis on 08/15/11 at 10:04 AM ET

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Based on Ray Shero’s comments last night I would say that there really no news to report…maybe Crosby again had some kind of sinus or head stuffiness that resulted in a foggy head… unfortunately, no matter what happens, be it innocuous or not, we will never know until camp/the season gets closer.

As I mentioned in one of the other comments, there really has been no speculation one way or the other here in town. As far as any of the folks that I tend to deal with on the team side, all was just continuing on the same path. They just wanted to do the best that they could to head the panic off.

Going to be an interesting couple of months to be sure… will do the best I can on this side to keep you guys posted…

Metz

Posted by brianmetzer on 08/15/11 at 10:09 AM ET

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Take it from someone who has chronic Sinusitis ! It sucks to have Sinus Headaches Pain/Pressure & when recovering from a Brain Injury I am sure it is even worse & scares Sid even more

Posted by Evilpens on 08/15/11 at 10:20 AM ET

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I hear ya EP… that is what I am thinking happened to him. The bad thing is that you will never know what the root cause is for a guy coming off of a concussion like that and I can’t blame anyone for being overly cautious about it…

B Metz

Posted by brianmetzer on 08/15/11 at 10:24 AM ET

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My .02:  I would bet both Rimer AND Shero are right, to a certain extent….

Rimer might be right in that it’s plausible that 87 has a headache every now and then, but as GMRS said, not to the point of shutting it down….

Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 08/15/11 at 10:35 AM ET

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The problem now is every liitle illness or heachache he gets will be attributed to the concussion. I still don’t like it and tend to agree with Primis’ comment. I can only hope it’s just a little sinus problem and Sid gets cleared for contact soon. That’s the next big step.When that happens and he gets popped will really know how he’s progresssing/doing with this whole concussion issue.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 08/15/11 at 11:28 AM ET

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I hate to be the debbie-downer in the group, but if the pens are without sid this year i don’t see it going the same way it did last year.  This next draft may be the draft we finally get a winger for Sid… :(

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 08/15/11 at 12:33 PM ET

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Had this rumor not been circulated, I don’t think we would’ve heard anything from the Penguins. Everything the Penguins are doing is correct. They nipped it in the budd today. Had they not said anything, then there would have been reason to speculate. The Penguins did not proactively discuss Sid’s status. It’s a non-story. He’s progressing but has an occasional headache. That’s it. The reason there hasn’t been a story for a while is because there hasn’t been a reason to have one. Camp doesn’t start for another month. Sid will be evaluated for contact when the players report.

I hate to be the debbie-downer in the group, but if the pens are without sid this year i don’t see it going the same way it did last year.  This next draft may be the draft we finally get a winger for Sid… :(

That’s an extreme overreaction to a baseless rumor.

Posted by cs6687 on 08/15/11 at 01:18 PM ET

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  I hate to be the debbie-downer in the group, but if the pens are without sid this year i don’t see it going the same way it did last year.  This next draft may be the draft we finally get a winger for Sid… :(

That is way over the top considering they would still be able to roll Malkin/Staal as the first two centers.

Posted by Gunner Staal on 08/15/11 at 02:12 PM ET

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It is very possible that Crosby has been dealing with a sinus infection…

What dumb irony. This statement makes its way into a post that is critical of the unreliable rumor mill? A sinus problem? Could be. Or maybe his new sunglasses aren’t polarized! Or he ate his ice cream too fast.

Tthe status quo is that Sid isn’t playing. Making progress, working out, all these things are good, but until they come out and say that he’s cleared and ready to play, and he actually takes a faceoff, he isn’t. No amount of rumor-mill dissections will change any of that.

I admit, in the first few games I thought it was funny that he was out. I don’t like Sid Crosby and I didn’t really wish him personal harm, but he does play in the NHL and injuries and concussions happen all the time (unfortunately) and most cost a player a few games. Now it is just ridiculous and I feel bad for the guy. It would be terrible if he misses any more hockey and it would be tragic if he never plays again. If the NHL doesn’t start taking this issue seriously after this they never will.

Posted by awould on 08/15/11 at 02:17 PM ET

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I am saying the sinus infection could be something that is in play considering that it was the official reason given for his last setback following his shutting it down during the playoffs…

Thanks for the head rush thought though… I hadn’t thought about that one! Very well could be! Can’t be too safe under these circumstances! wink Damn Ice Cream!

Has had suffered from sinus issues in the past… even prior to his concussion… the effects of allergies etc were cited before… could be in effect again. Or he could be having setbacks… as you said, no one knows.

Posted by brianmetzer on 08/15/11 at 02:22 PM ET

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My mentioning a possible sinus infection is not even in the same area code of “he won’t be ready for the start of the season…” just saying.

Also not stating that as fact or citing sources… just throwing it out as a possible cause for the speculation having been started in the first place. It certainly sparked the talk back in April…

Posted by brianmetzer on 08/15/11 at 02:24 PM ET

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My mentioning a possible sinus infection is not even in the same area code of “he won’t be ready for the start of the season…” just saying.

I know. Also, you’re not out there claiming specific knowledge and routinely getting proven wrong, like most “journalists”. What amazes is that they still claim a shred of credibility and they still write things that people read.

Sinus issues is certainly possible, especially given his history. However, the simplest explanation is that he still suffers symptoms from the concussion. Even if the sinus issues aggravate that, it is most likely still the concussion. There is no real reason to believe otherwise, other than pure optimism but you will go blind staring at the bright side too long.

Posted by awould on 08/15/11 at 02:45 PM ET

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Definitely! I appreciate that you recognize that fact about me…

According to Ray Shero’s comments this afternoon, Crosby has had some concussion symptoms over the past few weeks, but nothing that was severe enough that he had to be shut down. Overall they feel that he is still making good progress… going to be an interesting 7 weeks to be sure.

Will have a blog on the way with the updated info…

Going to be a shame if he ends up not being ready… the game needs the marquee guys to continue it’s growth. Losing a guy that has proven to marketable such as Sid or AO etc could be devastating.

B

Posted by brianmetzer on 08/15/11 at 02:50 PM ET

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The problem now is every liitle illness or heachache he gets will be attributed to the concussion. I still don’t like it and tend to agree with Primis’ comment. I can only hope it’s just a little sinus problem and Sid gets cleared for contact soon. That’s the next big step.When that happens and he gets popped will really know how he’s progresssing/doing with this whole concussion issue.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 08/15/11 at 09:28 AM ET

This is so the truth. I’ve had blistering headaches for about 3 days a week at night for a month or so. The only concussion I had was almost 10 years ago, so it’s fair to assume the two are not related (headaches are not normal for me, unless my allergies are acting up, usually in July/August, in which case they are and always have been). If I was a sports figure who had a concussion in January, would I know I’m getting headaches because of pollen? Probably not.

Still, I don’t have any idea what the heck you do to determine if there even still is a problem with PCS for Crosby, or if it’s just an occasional headache for some other reason. I would think if these headaches were PCS related, he wouldn’t be able to work as hard as he is in these videos without getting woozy or nauseous, but maybe it’s different for ultra-elite conditioned athletes.


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Really?

Posted by steviesteve on 08/15/11 at 02:59 PM ET

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