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The Latest On Ryane Clowe

from Pierre LeBrun of ESPN,

Clowe has a full no-trade clause. The San Jose Sharks have to run this thing by him in order to get a deal done.

Which means if, for whatever reason, Clowe doesn’t believe a certain team is a good fit, he can nix it. Although, in the same vein, Sharks GM Doug Wilson did well by Douglas Murray in the move to Pittsburgh, the sense is that Wilson and Clowe have a good line of communication on what’s transpiring.

A solid playoff performance on a top contender would augment Clowe’s UFA market value this summer, so he’s not against a trade if it makes sense for him.

Of interest is where Montreal fits into all this. Boston is tracking Clowe, among other players on its short list, as a possibility in case it strikes out on Jarome Iginla.

Clowe, though, is exactly what the Habs need, a power forward to complement the skill they have up front.

read on for more teams interested in Clowe plus other trade deadline topics...

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Clowe, though, is exactly what the Habs need, a power forward to complement the skill they have up front.

Detroit, too, but Ken Holland wouldn’t want to acquire him and see if he’s a fit before re-signing because that might cost a draft pick, so instead he’ll bide his time and wait untily July 1st when Clowe won’t be available because whoever acquires him will either re-sign him or trade his rights to someone else who will re-sign him.

I know, I know, if Detroit wants him it would cost Datsyuk, Zetterberg,a Howard 8-year contract sign-and trade to get him, their next four first rounders, Tomas Tatar, Petr Mrazek and Ryan Sproul, so they shouldn’t even bother looking into whether he would be interested in a trade to the Motor City.

Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 03:50 PM ET

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I know, I know, if Detroit wants him it would cost ....

Well, and he’s not really a scoring machine for the kind of assets they’d want.

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/27/13 at 03:55 PM ET

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Well, and he’s not really a scoring machine for the kind of assets they’d want.

Well, he’s a 20 goal scorer having a down year who’s big and can throw his weight around.  Put him on a wing with Zetterberg or Datsyuk and see if magic happens.

But yeah, you’re right.  They’d want too much, so why bother?

Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 04:03 PM ET

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But yeah, you’re right.  They’d want too much, so why bother?

What about Gaborik?  He’s a UFA after this season, so you don’t take on his contract forever, and you give him a chance to make a difference for your club.  What would the Rangers want, besides a D-man.  They seem to be after grit.  Abbey?  I mean, it’s not like we dont’ have Abdelkader in spades in the works with Sheahan, Aubry, Andersson and Callahan.

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/27/13 at 04:25 PM ET

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If it takes a mid range draft pick or a low tier prospect, sure, take a chance.  But it would be a dumb move for Holland to trade something decent to get an upcoming ufa who can’t score, just for the sake of “shaking things up”

Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 03/27/13 at 04:28 PM ET

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an upcoming ufa who can’t score

He’s playing for the Rangers this year.  Their leading goal scorer is Nash with 12.  He has 9.  And we’re talking about acquiring him to skate with Datsyuk, maybe replacing Abbey.  What’s wrong with that?  How does that hurt our team?

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/27/13 at 04:39 PM ET

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But it would be a dumb move for Holland to trade something decent to get an upcoming ufa who can’t score, just for the sake of “shaking things up”

Yes, it would if you think he can’t score.  But since he’s proven in the past that he CAN score and since a change of scenario could be just the thing that he needs and a big body winger with a scoring touch is just what Detroit’s top six need, why not take a chance?

Imagine a GM who takes a small chance to actively try to improve his team?

But oh, nevermind.  Those free buyouts are coming, so I’m sure the Wings will be able to pick up Rick Nash and Shea Weber for practically nothing, because those are the types of guys who are going to be bought out.

Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 04:39 PM ET

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Posted by MoreShoot on 03/27/13 at 04:39 PM ET

Uh, I was talking about Clowe.

Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 03/27/13 at 04:40 PM ET

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What’s wrong with that?  How does that hurt our team?

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense.  Gaborik might be the right ‘fit’ for the Wings this season.

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/27/13 at 04:42 PM ET

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Sorry, henry.  Broken thread there.  I thought you was responding about Gaborik.

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/27/13 at 04:44 PM ET

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For whatever reason Clowe seems like exactly the kind of player that Holland would never even consider trading for/acquiring. Having said that he IS exactly the kind of player Detroit needs. I’m sure he’ll end up in Boston. They seem to value players who make things difficult/uncomfortable for the opposition for some reason!

Posted by godblender on 03/27/13 at 04:49 PM ET

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Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 04:39 PM ET

He’s no sniper, he’s topped out at 24, and has only scored more then 20 twice.  He’s a grinder with a solid scoring touch, but he’s not just having a bad year, he’s having an awful year.  He’s not going to magically become Cam Neely on the Wings.  You’re talking about adding a player for scoring that has less goals then every forward and most of the defensemen on the team.  If you can get him for a pick (not a first rounder), sure, but you do actually have to give up assets to acquire the player, it’s not a free test drive.

Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 03/27/13 at 04:50 PM ET

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Posted by MoreShoot on 03/27/13 at 04:44 PM ET

That’s funny.  I responded and then saw yours and thought “oh, I guess he was talking about Gaborik”.

But for the record I think either would be a decent pick up and worth a bit of a chance (that Ken Holland won’t take, so it’s a moot point anyway).

Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 04:50 PM ET

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He’s no sniper, he’s topped out at 24, and has only scored more then 20 twice.

Yeah, well Filppula’s only done it ONCE but that doesn’t stop Detroit from believing that any day he’ll blossom into a 30-goal scorer. Plus they’re probably going to WAY overpay for him in hope that the past FIVE seasons were just an apparition, or let him walk without getting dick in return.

Posted by godblender on 03/27/13 at 04:55 PM ET

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(that Ken Holland won’t take, so it’s a moot point anyway).

Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 04:50 PM ET

Kicking tires and such.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 03/27/13 at 04:55 PM ET

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Those free buyouts are coming, so I’m sure the Wings will be able to pick up Rick Nash and Shea Weber for practically nothing, because those are the types of guys who are going to be bought out.

Seriously?! Niiice.

Wait…damn.

Posted by godblender on 03/27/13 at 04:56 PM ET

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Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 03/27/13 at 04:50 PM ET

He topped out at 24, yes, but as I said, “Put him on a wing with Zetterberg or Datsyuk and see if magic happens.”

How could it hurt?

And yes, he’s having a very bad year on a team that’s having their worst year in a long time.  He wouldn’t “turn into” Cam Neely, but maybe he could get his scoring touch back.

And yeah, you described him well.  He’s Justin Abdelkader if Justin Abdelkader didn’t top out out at 8 goals in a season.  Babcock likes have someone who can grind on Datsyuk’s line, why not someone better than Abdelkader?

Again, he’s a 20+-goal scorer when not on Datsyuk’s wing.  I’m not saying give up 3 firsts and our best prospect.  But hell, I’d even give up a first for him, especially a pick that’s going to be middle-to-late in the round and in what is being called a fairly shallow draft.

It’d be better spending than the first that Nashville gave up for Paul Gaustad or the first that Detroit gave up for Quincey.

Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 04:58 PM ET

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[Posted by godblender on 03/27/13 at 04:55 PM ET

Well, as an old saying goes, two wrongs don’t make a right.  I’d much rather see Fil take a walk then get a big long term contract.

Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 03/27/13 at 05:00 PM ET

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Funny thing is is that bringing in Clowe doesn’t really upset what the Wings would like to be, it really just signals that Todd Bertuzzi will never return.

Because that’s who Ryane Clowe is at this point.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/27/13 at 05:10 PM ET

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Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/27/13 at 05:10 PM ET

I’m cool with that.

Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 05:10 PM ET

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Detroit, too, but Ken Holland wouldn’t want to acquire him and see if he’s a fit before re-signing because that might cost a draft pick, so instead he’ll bide his time and wait untily July 1st when Clowe won’t be available because whoever acquires him will either re-sign him or trade his rights to someone else who will re-sign him.

Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 03:50 PM ET

It’s going to cost a 1st-round pick plus one of Nyquist/Tatar/Jarnkrok or similar to get Clowe.

Are you seriously suggesting that making that deal in the hopes that he turns his career back around and then signs a longer term with the Wings (a term which will start at age 32) is worth it?

You are out of your mind.

Also, check out this guy’s +/- numbers on what has been one of the best teams as far as goal differential in the 8 years he’s been in the league. They’re underwhelming to the point of being a red flag.

This dude has killed the Wings in the past, for sure, but again, these names we’re seeing come out on the block simply aren’t worth what the Wings will need to give up to get them.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 03/27/13 at 05:13 PM ET

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I’d rather have Clowe than Gaborik.
Size, grit and some skill versus a lot of skill, lack of motivation at times and a history of injury.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 from I really like our team on 03/27/13 at 05:18 PM ET

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Are you seriously suggesting that making that deal in the hopes that he turns his career back around and then signs a longer term with the Wings (a term which will start at age 32) is worth it?

I’m suggesting that they do something other than acquiring broken old men, bought-out or waived reclamation projects and smaller versions of guys they already have.

I’m suggesting that they get someone who fits an actual need that they have.

And in exactly what world would be be starting a new contract when he’s 32?  He’s 30 and his contract ends in June.

Also, since you assume for some reason that a rental having a bad season would cost a first and the team’s best offensive prospect (leading scoring in the AHL despite having spend half of March in the NHL), I submit that it is you who is out of his mind.

Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 05:31 PM ET

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My understanding is that Clowe’s having a “down year” because he’s got some sort of problem with his right shoulder (would explain why he’s fighting a lot less). If that’s the case, it probably won’t matter who his linemates are.

Posted by larry on 03/27/13 at 05:43 PM ET

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What the Sharks want for Clowe.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 03/27/13 at 05:48 PM ET

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I’m suggesting that they do something other than acquiring broken old men

I’m afraid Ryane Clowe is closer to being in that category than I’d like.

I dunno. Somebody would have to go the other way to make this deal happen. I could think of a few people I’d trade off the roster to make space, but not many I’d trade one-for-one to get Ryane Clowe.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/27/13 at 05:56 PM ET

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I’d rather have Clowe than Gaborik.
Size, grit and some skill versus a lot of skill, lack of motivation at times and a history of injury.

I might, too, but there are things to like about Gaborik: he is a more established goal scorer, and, because he’s EC, I assume the asking price might be better.

Posted by MoreShoot on 03/27/13 at 06:07 PM ET

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I don’t know we’re a big enough team to let Gaborik’s skill come through.  If we’re turning Abby into a top 6 power forward then I’d say that’s a need we should look at.  Big bodies.

Honestly, Jagr would be a nice addition and this might be a loose enough locker-room for him to blend, now.

I dunno.  I’m happy standing pat at this point but if they deal White and Flip I think that’d make sense too.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 03/27/13 at 06:40 PM ET

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Don’t think the Wings should be looking to add anybody at this stage.  If they add Clowe for a 1st does that really make the Wings a contender?  Doubt it.  If a great deal comes along then pull the trigger but that’s unlikely at this time of the year.  The Wings big acquisition should be Dekeyser.  White should be dealt and Fil too if he doesn’t like the Wings offer (hopefully under 4M).

Posted by statelouis26 from Detroit, MI on 03/27/13 at 07:54 PM ET

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If they add Clowe for a 1st does that really make the Wings a contender?

No, he’d be a building block.

When did it only become acceptable to make a trade if you’re ONE player away?

You can’t just use free agency and drafting to make a team better.  The Detroit of the last few years has proven that.

Posted by Garth on 03/27/13 at 08:25 PM ET

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Brad Stuart wasn’t exactly a hot commodity when we got him either.  Just thought he had tools in his toolbox that we needed on the backend.  Turned out they were right.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 03/27/13 at 08:30 PM ET

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with the exception that he is on IR(unless his knee is ok by now?) i’d rather have Brandon Dubinsky.

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 03/28/13 at 01:23 AM ET

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