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from Larry Brooks of the NY Post,

If the season is canceled, the Maple Leafs will lose approximately $100 million, the Rangers at least $50 million and the Canadiens somewhat less than that.

Yet not one of these ownership groups is represented on the NHL negotiating committee. And while Toronto GM Brian Burke is on the committee, we’re told the league’s agenda is being plotted all but exclusively by Canceler-in-Chief Gary Bettmanand Boston owner Jeremy Jacobs, the hawkish chairman of the Board of Governors.

Indeed, according to one trustworthy individual who attended the negotiating session in New York on Nov. 9, Calgary owner Murray Edwards was at one point silenced by Bettman just a moment after Jacobs leaned over and whispered into the commissioner’s ear.

It is unfathomable that league owners who understand the ramifications of extending this senseless lockout have not demanded Bettman call a Board of Governors meeting for a full airing of the issues.

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As someone who has supported the Commissioners grow the game strategy, that I think has worked extremely well. I suggest that if this season is lost, due mostly to Fehr trying to restore the status of the NHLPA at Bettman’s expense, he should resign. That being said, that if he must be sacrifced to restore the creditbility of the league, it should only happen with the total destruction of the NHLPA. It would be the best result for the league going forward. Gary may want to consider taking one for the team by truly bringing the salary system in order, by canceling the season, imposing the new salary structure and ending the NHLPA once and for all.

Posted by timbits on 11/18/12 at 11:41 AM ET

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it should only happen with the total destruction of the NHLPA

You really think the league is going to be any better off without a PA?  The owners, and especially the BoG are their own worst enemies.  They can’t be saved from themselves.  Without a PA who’s going to bail them out from their bad decisions another seven or eight years down the line?

Both the league and the PA need to get more realistic expectations of what they can get out of a new CBA.  However, the league made a monumental mistake in deciding to play a grand game of lockout chicken and not realizing that Fehr would be happy to play along.  There’s plenty of documentation on what kind of negotiator Fehr is, and yet in following with typical NHL ineptness they didn’t seem to care to plan accordingly.

Fehr is a roadblock to negotiations and compromise.  That’s no surprise, he was always going to be.  You deal with that by trying to work around the roadblock, not by putting up one of your own.  The league played right into his hands and has been front in center in making sure the lockout lasts as long as possible.  For that alone they don’t deserve to have the PA lay down now.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 11/18/12 at 01:06 PM ET

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You really think the league is going to be any better off without a PA?

No I recognize that the NHLPA would be replaced by a new organization, but one that would have to start out with the league mandated system that would limit players options and revenue impact. BTW I would go back to the 43% proposal as the player share if this were to come to pass.

Posted by timbits on 11/18/12 at 01:29 PM ET

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So essentially, you want to return to the Eagleson days?

Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 11/18/12 at 02:37 PM ET

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How about a return to the 50’s when Gordie Howe thought a Red Wing’s letterman jacket was a good signing bonus.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 11/18/12 at 03:06 PM ET

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@timbits its so obvious, and quite frankly, embarrassing that when it comes down to what’s actually fecked up with this niche league: teams in unfriendly markets sucking off the teet of the successful, your support of the owners is cute. Go Coyotes!.... so sad

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 11/18/12 at 04:46 PM ET

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timbits are you from US or canada

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 11/18/12 at 10:33 PM ET

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No I recognize that the NHLPA would be replaced by a new organization,

Or more likely if the league unilaterally imposes a contract, the PA disbands and sues to end the NHL owners’ anti-trust exemption. Should not be too difficult to prove bad faith in that instance. Instead of 30 franchises in a single league, we’d have 30 clubs competing against each other for players, fan bases—you name it.

Posted by YouppiKiYay on 11/18/12 at 11:58 PM ET

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(because you’re *#$%@&’ stupid.)

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 11/19/12 at 12:36 AM ET

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…but one that would have to start out with the league mandated system that would limit players options and revenue impact.

I guess that would be preferred outcome for the owners since they’re not able to outsource their labour costs to China or India.

BTW I would go back to the 43% proposal as the player share if this were to come to pass.

I guess you’re willing to volunteer to take a 25% pay cut as well… moral support for the owners’ position and all. Or can your job be outsourced and maybe save your employer 75% on your salary?

Posted by madhatter on 11/19/12 at 12:43 AM ET

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I guess you’re willing to volunteer to take a 25% pay cut as well… moral support for the owners’ position and all. Or can your job be outsourced and maybe save your employer 75% on your salary?

Actually in my industry wages have been reduced 15% and employment reduced by 25%. So when 800 players can’t accept 50% of a $3 billion industry I have no sympathy. A 25% reduction still results in $1.6 million average salary which is exhorbitant for the value of what is actually produced for society.

Posted by timbits on 11/19/12 at 02:08 AM ET

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@timbits its so obvious, and quite frankly, embarrassing that when it comes down to what’s actually fecked up with this niche league: teams in unfriendly markets sucking off the teet of the successful, your support of the owners is cute. Go Coyotes!.... so sad

I wonder if you quite get the irony of your position, given that it appears you support contraction to some degree or another.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 11/19/12 at 06:00 AM ET

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How sad that your industry slashed wages. Maybe you should have unionized.

 

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 11/19/12 at 08:51 AM ET

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Did your industry cut wages because of record breaking revenue.  And aren’t we spending the same amount on players we were pre-cap era?  So if the prices are the same as way back then, but revenue is now record breaking, growing 3x.. I wonder what extreme operating fixtures they’ve aquired to run a franchise since then for this to be true.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 11/19/12 at 01:30 PM ET

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I know if I ran a McDonald’s in New York that was making an extreme amount of profit, I would close down my shop until my employees were being paid as little as necessary to make the franchise owner in Arkansas profitable.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 11/19/12 at 02:21 PM ET

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