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Teemu Selanne Not A Fan Of Bruce Boudreau

from Chris Johnston of Sportsnet,

If anyone other than Bruce Boudreau was coaching the Anaheim Ducks, Teemu Selanne believes that he would be reporting for training camp with his former teammates on Thursday morning and continuing his NHL career.

That is among a number of frank revelations contained in an authorized biography entitled “Teemu,” which has just been released in Finland. The book was written by journalist Ari Mennander with Selanne’s support and has been in the works for a decade. Sections translated into English were obtained by Sportsnet for this article and later cross-checked by two people that have read it....

Selanne felt that he never gained the coach’s trust and wasn’t given enough ice time to make an impact. Ultimately, he claims that it prompted him to begrudgingly walk away from the game just before his 44th birthday.

“If we had any other coach, I’d still play,” said Selanne.

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I call BS

Posted by Pasha1277 on 09/18/14 at 08:21 AM ET

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For more, check the recent timeline of this writer from Finland.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 09/18/14 at 08:24 AM ET

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He’s 44. Age has nothing to do with lack of ice time?

Posted by teldar on 09/18/14 at 08:30 AM ET

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WOW.

Posted by George0211 on 09/18/14 at 09:02 AM ET

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Every good player wants to play more but the job of the coach is to put the best on the ice and at his age he wasn’t the best. Sure he thinks if he was on the ice more it would be different but it doesn’t mean it would be different in a good way. I respect Teemu’s passion but Boudreau is a very good coach and I respect Boudreau for doing what he thought was best to win instead of giving an aging star more ice time to make him happy. He said if it was any other coach he would come back, so go play in LA, don’t think Sutter would give you more ice time, same goes for Maurice in Winnipeg. Teemu was a great player but age is a factor and he needs to understand he is not the same player he once was.

Posted by Puckbubba on 09/18/14 at 09:07 AM ET

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Every good player wants to play more but the job of the coach is to put the best on the ice and at his age he wasn’t the best.

You’re right.  As of the season before Boudreau came to Anaheim, Selanne didn’t have the best point total, only the second best on the team and one of only three guys on the team who scored more than a point per game.

And in Boudreau’s first year as coach in Anaheim Selanne only led the team in points.

Clearly, he should have been playing fewer minutes.

And let’s be fair here.  In Boudreau’s two full seasons his team was first in their division and won one playoff series, and he was the guy who coached the second seeded Ducks to lose in seven against the Wings.

Obviously, as a coach who has won three playoff series in his seven seasons, he is a genius beyond reproach.

Posted by Garth on 09/18/14 at 09:27 AM ET

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You’re right.  As of the season before Boudreau came to Anaheim, Selanne didn’t have the best point total, only the second best on the team and one of only three guys on the team who scored more than a point per game.

And in Boudreau’s first year as coach in Anaheim Selanne only led the team in points.

Clearly, he should have been playing fewer minutes.

Posted by Garth on 09/18/14 at 10:27 AM ET

And in the 2012-13 playoffs, Selanne ranked where on the team in scoring, Garth?  Seventh, you say?  Behind such scoring powerhouses as Nick Bonino, Francois Beauchemin, and Kyle Palmieri?  Oh you conveniently left that part of the story out, didn’t you?

I remember those 7 games well Garth, and Selanne was basically a non-factor.  It was very clear in those playoffs that Teemu didn’t have much left in the tank, and it resulted in Boudreau only picking his spots to play him by the end, because Teemu couldn’t skate a regular shift at that point.

THAT series was the end of Selanne.  And if Teemu had a brain he would have retired after that series.  But he’s Teemu, so of course he didn’t.  The attention whore needed another year.

And playoffs this year?  After being 4th in reg. season scoring, he finished SIXTH in scoring.  His whole game is scoring, and he wasn’t scoring anymore.  This time finishing behind scoring gamebreakers like Nick Bonino (again) and Patrick Maroon.

Look, if you finish two playoffs in a row in scoring behind Nick freaking Bonino…

Boudreau is not the brightest bulb, but even he could see that late in the season and in the playoffs, Teemu didn’t have it anymore.  THAT is why his icetime was cut back.  He couldn’t toss Teemu over the boards just any time and get results and even he knew it.

Posted by Primis on 09/18/14 at 10:28 AM ET

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And in the 2012-13 playoffs, Selanne ranked where on the team in scoring, Garth?  Seventh, you say?

Wait a minute, so when he was playing 18 minutes a game pre-Boudreau he was putting up more points than when Boudreau started reducing his icetime to 12-14 minutes per game?

So, as is minutes per game dropped so did his point production?

You don’t say!!!!!!

Oh you conveniently left that part of the story out, didn’t you?

Did I?  Or was the entire point I was making the fact that when he was was getting more icetime in the pre-Boudreau years, he was putting up more points?

And playoffs this year?  After being 4th in reg. season scoring, he finished SIXTH in scoring.

Well, that changes everything!  He was a pitiful sixth in scoring while…hmm…12th in icetime among the forwards?

His whole game is scoring

Is it?  In 21 NHL seasons he had more goals than assists five times.  But yeah, his whole game is scoring.

Look, if you finish two playoffs in a row in scoring behind Nick freaking Bonino…

Good point.  In 2012/13 Selanne had one point less than Bonino while playing two and a half minutes per game less than Bonino and in 2013/14 he had two fewer points in two series and played nearly six fewer minutes per game.

Thanks for helping to make my point.

Posted by Garth on 09/18/14 at 11:29 AM ET

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Wait a minute, so when he was playing 18 minutes a game pre-Boudreau he was putting up more points than when Boudreau started reducing his icetime to 12-14 minutes per game?

No.  Boudreau reduced his icetime because Teemu showed that by the end of season, he couldn’t handle that amount of ice time anymore.  Your Cause and Effect are completely backwards.  It’s that simple.

Teemu never gained Boudreau’s trust because Teemu was showing signs of being washed up, and the signs were obvious enough that even Boudreau couldn’t miss them.

Did I?  Or was the entire point I was making the fact that when he was was getting more icetime in the pre-Boudreau years, he was putting up more points?

He also wasn’t standing still on the PP and ES, getting repeatedly beat to loose pucks, and having guys blow by him in transition in seasons prior to that.

There’s not a SINGLE Wings fan who watched that Wings-Ducks series 2 playoffs ago that will tell you anything different than the fact that Teemu had NOTHING more to give in that series, and it was the first time he really looked too old.  His skating was incredibly subpar, and as a result he didn’t move around nearly as much.  It was so bad the announcers were even noting it.  And when the series was done, everyone waited for news about Teemu having an injury or something, just to see….. and nope, he didn’t have an injury.  He was just OLD.

Why don’t you read back through the A2Y liveblogs for that series and see the continual references to how old and done Teemu looked.  “Teemu looks really old” was EVERYWHERE in that series, and not just from DET fans, but from observers in general.

His whole game is scoring

Is it?  In 21 NHL seasons he had more goals than assists five times.  But yeah, his whole game is scoring

Nooooo, of course he’s a perennial Selke candidate used in shut-down situations, famous for his hitting and board work…

YES… his game is all scoring, you dolt.  God, you are flailing wildly now on this.  If Teemu’s game is not scoring, *please* do edumacate the rest of us on what his game is exactly?  We’re all waiting with bated breath, Professsor Garth…  everyone stop, Professor Garth is about to tell us how the guy with 684 NHL goals scored and 1457 career points and who once scored 76 goals in a season isn’t a “scorer” and is something else entirely…

Good point.  In 2012/13 Selanne had one point less than Bonino while playing two and a half minutes per game less than Bonino and in 2013/14 he had two fewer points in two series and played nearly six fewer minutes per game.

Thanks for helping to make my point.

When Nick Bonino is getting more ES ice time than you and you’re relegated to a PP specialist because you can’t keep up at ES pace… don’t you think that’s a freaking clue where your career is at?

You never had a point here, Garth, save reasserting that you’ll sometimes argue about everything and anything simply for arguing’s sake.

Posted by Primis on 09/18/14 at 12:05 PM ET

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Saw this Scott Burnside chat:

Ryan (Newport Beach, CA/Bloomington. IN)

What do you think about Selanne’s comments about Bruce Boudreau?

Scott Burnside (1:43 PM)

Ryan; Just saw some of the comments apparently ascribed to Selanne in a new biography coming out in Finland. Not very complimentary to Boudreau. And I know in Sochi last year Selanne, who was terrific, didn’t waste many opportunities to complain about his lot in life in Anaheim. He’s a sure-fire Hall of Famer but I also think it’s fair to say that in the playoffs two years ago Selanne was a liability and last year during the regular season he was noticeable in games against Los Angeles for his inability to keep up. That’s the reality. Still, no doubt it will be a topic of conversation around the Duck Pond for awhile.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/51135/nhl-with-scott-burnside

Posted by Puckbubba on 09/18/14 at 01:35 PM ET

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YES… his game is all scoring, you dolt.  God, you are flailing wildly now on this.  If Teemu’s game is not scoring, *please* do edumacate the rest of us on what his game is exactly?  We’re all waiting with bated breath, Professsor Garth…  everyone stop, Professor Garth is about to tell us how the guy with 684 NHL goals scored and 1457 career points and who once scored 76 goals in a season isn’t a “scorer” and is something else entirely…

Teemu’s game was largely skating.  Yes, he scored a lot, but a lot of his scoring was generated by his legs. He was, in his prime, one of the best moving players in the league- not merely fast, but effortless, good change of direction, all of the things you need to get defensemen and goalies on their heels to facilitate scoring opportunities.  His scoring has gone downhill since that started to go and he’s become more of a one dimensional ‘receive passes, shoot puck’ player.

He did look washed up in the playoffs a few years ago, but Zetterberg, Datsyuk and company make a lot of guys look pretty bad.  They really got under Getzlaf and Perry’s skin and, from them on down, the entire ducks team looked disjointed at times other than some of the more grindy-minded guys who were just dumping it in past inferior forward lines and getting to grind it out against those stellar Smith-Quincey and Lashoff-Kindl pairings.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 09/19/14 at 02:40 AM ET

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