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Talking Dynasty In Colorado

from Mark Kiszla of the Denver Post,

The first, glorious taste of sweet champagne from the Stanley Cup in 21 years only wet everybody’s whistle.

Avalanche Country thirsts for a big gulp of glory.

With a strong core built to last around defenseman Cale Makar and center Nathan MacKinnon, dare we dream of a hockey dynasty?...

As the Cup was waltzed around the ice during giddy moments immediately after a 2-1 victory against Tampa Bay clinched the championship on a steamy Monday night in Florida, the newly crowned champs approached franchise owner Stan Kroenke, who has built a sprawling sports empire that spans the globe from Los Angeles to London.

“The minute I came down here,” said Kroenke, surrounded by reporters in Amalie Arena, “the players were coming up to me, saying: ‘This is amazing. Let’s do it again.’”

But before taking a breath, Stan the Man quickly added: “That’s hard to do.”

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igrover's avatar

“Avalanche Country thirsts for a big gulp of glory”  More like a mini can of Diet Coke.

I don’t make these comments as a sore loser because I have zero interest in the Avalanche franchise despite living in Denver for most of their residency here.  A true franchise fan base born on third base thinking they hit a triple.  As the city prepares to celebrate the cup with the traditional parade my wife pointed out to me this morning that the local new announcers, who proudly speak of “we won the cup” and “we are champions” could not name a single player on the team and instead constantly referred to the team by name and referenced the organizers of the parade. The graphic on the news this morning with prior championship parade attendance:  Avs 1996 - 500k, Avs 2001 - 250K, and finally the 2016 Broncos - 1 million.

Same with the basketball Nuggets - constantly the neglected child until they make the playoffs only for the locals to question who the players are and how exactly is basketball played? And let’s not forget the day after the Avs won the Western Conference championship the lead story on the news was the Broncos were getting new ownership.

So today marks the end of a months long distraction from football here in Denver.  All the Avs t-shirts the locals have been proudly wearing, still showing their deep creases and dust on the shoulders from being left on the back corner discount shelf of the local fan shop all Winter, will after today be relegated to lawn mowing duty.

But Wait. 

What’s That?

Over There.

It’s a Sunday Brunch/Tailgate recipe show hosted by Russell Wilson.

Now that’s what I’m talking about!

Posted by igrover on 06/30/22 at 10:43 AM ET


I don’t make these comments as a sore loser

You might want to tell your fingers.

Posted by GMoney on 06/30/22 at 10:45 AM ET

damndog revenge   From the bowels of Detroit's avatar

Posted by GMoney on 06/30/22 at 10:45 AM ET

How about you stick with hockey instead of attacking people for asinine shit?

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 06/30/22 at 11:27 AM ET


Always a new HiHD around, DD.  Just put them on the ignore list like usual.  One thing to rib eachother, another just to be a pompous jerk.

Posted by ThatGuy on 06/30/22 at 12:27 PM ET

TreKronor's avatar

Grover, I know what your talking about. I lived in shitcago during their cup runs and the city rallied around the team but couldn’t name a player. Somehow the news still focused on the Cubs, even in 2010 when they were still very very bad.

I think new fans are great for the sport, but they’re drive-by fans, not here to stay.

Now days all the people I know from Chicago don’t even know who their goalie is.

Posted by TreKronor on 06/30/22 at 12:41 PM ET

MurrayChadwick's avatar

Hmm.. I don’t know about a dynasty, but their team is young enough to win another 1 or 2 in the Mackinnon Makar era for sure, especially in the uncompetitive West. Gonna be tight next year, the Aves have $25MM of capspace to work with, but also have only 14 players signed and that does not include Kemper, Nichushkin, Kardri, and Cogliano being UFAs, and MacKinnon due for about a $4MM raise next year, Erik Johnson is also a UFA. I wonder how all in they go next year knowing cuts are coming in 2023 for raises.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from Window Seat on the Captain's Ship on 06/30/22 at 01:23 PM ET

Chet's avatar

Vegas is gonna be a buzzsaw next year, too.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 06/30/22 at 01:48 PM ET

TreKronor's avatar

I really think the Avs need to work on another goalie - Kemper just is not a strong winning goalie. Good enough to win on a very stacked team, but if they can’t keep all their forward/dman talent, the goalie is going to have to pick up more slack.

They spent a 1st to get him so maybe Sakic has a hard time parting ways, but to me he’s not a dependable, long term goalie option. Especially when talking “dynasty”.

Posted by TreKronor on 06/30/22 at 01:54 PM ET


Posted by TreKronor on 06/30/22 at 01:54 PM ET

They won with an Osgood and CuJo and that’s not a long term strategy of winning.

Their team isn’t even close to being a dynasty, they don’t have it and you can look at the players TOI during the playoffs. They’re slightly better than the Oilers who rely solely on like 3-4 players to carry the team. Which is why they needed Kane.

Posted by retrospecd on 06/30/22 at 02:21 PM ET

Chet's avatar

Avs are way better than the Oilers but repeating in this league is super tough. Agree they’d be better off with a better goalie but they’re hard to find unless you draft and develop your own.

Sort of sad how Arizona just feels like a relegated talent feeder soccer team these days but that’s exactly what they are.

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 06/30/22 at 02:24 PM ET

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Posted by retrospecd on 06/30/22 at 02:21 PM ET

Cujo won a cup? Mike Vernon

Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 06/30/22 at 04:36 PM ET

SYF's avatar

Kiszla.  Of effing course.

Posted by SYF from impossible and oddly communally possessive sluts on 06/30/22 at 04:56 PM ET

awould's avatar

I think the last dynasty was Detroit, winning multiple cups with multiple Captains and being competitive over a decade plus run. Salary cap really limits that from happening again. I think the run Tampa just ended is maybe as close as a team can get anymore, or the three Cups Chicago won at their peak. The Avs are definitely in position to win one or two more, but they have a lot of UFAs coming up that will need to be paid. Only four of their top 10 pt producers are under contract beyond next season.

Posted by awould on 06/30/22 at 05:36 PM ET


Posted by damndog revenge From the bowels of Detroit on 06/30/22 at 04:36 PM ET

I was referring to the quality of goalie.

Both of Avs goalies are average goalies that can go in either direction depending on the night but they’re still…average.

Posted by retrospecd on 06/30/22 at 06:38 PM ET

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Posted by igrover on 06/30/22 at 10:43 AM ET

Having lived there (okay west side of Centennial Airport to you) & Colorado Springs (by North gate)

....especially when I was there during the Manning at QB era and gone tailgating at the original Brooklyn’s (because we had a season ticket holders parking pass for behind the bar)...I saw first-hand exactly what you are talking about. Saying otherwise would be in-com-plete. PS…if you haven’t been there for a tailgate: it’s well worth it.

I would further your hypothesis and state that more people will show up for the Broncos open practices at the training camp on the other side of Centennial Airport than did for the Avs.

Posted by d ca on 07/01/22 at 12:58 AM ET

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