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Steve Yzerman On The Trade Market

from NHL.com,

"It's relatively quiet around the League for a lot of reasons," Yzerman told Fox Sports Sun play-by-play announcer Rick Peckham. "One is simply the cap. A lot of teams don't have the cap space. And another is, everybody is kind of in the fight. There's very few teams that would consider today and say, 'We're out of it … We're just going to start moving our assets.' And those teams need partners, and the teams at the top don't have the cap space and don't have the urgency to do anything, so it'll get closer to the deadline for us, or in the middle a little bit.

"And we're trying to win. If I could do something that helped our team make a trade that identified a need for us -- not just for this year, but going forward -- I would do that and haven't been able to do that to this point and that's been going on, really, since the draft last year."

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Slumpy's avatar

Bishop is UFA this summer and I doubt will be resigned.  His backup goalie is good enough to handle every game duty.

Posted by Slumpy from Under My Wheels on 02/02/17 at 05:25 PM ET

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Stevie, how much for Hedman?

Posted by Ventr on 02/02/17 at 06:23 PM ET

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Did Yzerman just basically say trades are hard? I think I just saw a pig fly. I mean only the moronic Ken Holland makes thoses excuses, no?

Posted by DieByTheWing on 02/02/17 at 07:33 PM ET

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Did Yzerman just basically say trades are hard?

Well it’s freaking true. Just that no one here apparently realizes it and everyone casually missed this post.

Posted by TreKronor on 02/02/17 at 09:12 PM ET

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Did Yzerman just basically say trades are hard?

Posted by DieByTheWing on 02/02/17 at 06:33 PM ET

Actually I thought he quite eloquently summed up the trade market and why nothing is happening.

That said….. Steve might not be a GM in Tampa much longer with those kind of results.  And I’m not sure I’d want him replacing Holland in Detroit at this rate.  He’s gotten himself into a corner and has no idea how to get back out…

Posted by Primis on 02/02/17 at 09:15 PM ET

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If I could do something that helped our team make a trade that identified a need for us—not just for this year, but going forward—I would do that


How bout we send You Vanek, Smith & K.H. and in return you come Home.  smile

Posted by Down River Dan on 02/02/17 at 11:31 PM ET

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There’s very few teams that would consider today and say, ‘We’re out of it … We’re just going to start moving our assets.’

Yzerman is more delusional than Holland if he thinks the Bolts aren’t “out of it.” They’ve played two more games than the Wings and they have one more point. They’re 27th and 28th in the league right now. Neither of them have anything close to a realistic chance of making the playoffs.

When the fans are the realists and management is the pie-in-the-sky optimist, you know your team is in deep trouble.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/03/17 at 01:27 AM ET

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Trades *are* hard…and I can think of about three or four recent posts where I acknowledged the extent to which it’s a structural, league-wide reality.

But a GM who does have a much better recent track record than Holland acknowledging the obvious is way, way different than a GM who has blundered about for years, making excuses much of the time.

Yzerman said: this has been the dynamic (or lack thereof) since this past draft. Holland has been using the “we’ll see what shakes loose…at the deadline…at the draft…after training camps…once teams have played enough to know their needs….at the deadline….” for years!

We all know by now that Holland has traded less than half as much as the 29th team.

Yzerman did at least get a late pick in the past week for a defenseman who wasn’t in their plans.

(And I’ll go out of my way to give credit to Holland for doing the same last Spring with Kindl).

No one thinks Holland is an idiot or whatever. He deserves a lot of credit for a great tenure as GM.
It’s just past time for a change.

Posted by Lefty30 on 02/03/17 at 08:25 AM ET

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Lefty, please explain to me how quantity of trades is at all a point of comparison?  Because teams make 80% of trades that have ZERO impact, because Holland didn’t make those, makes him a bad GM?  Are you one of those people who reward people for “doing something” even though it has no functional impact? 

If you simply think a change is necessary, then sure, that is fine.  But again, be careful what you ask for.  People wanted Babs gone “for a change”.... look how that has worked out so far.

The guy has had a plan/goal and has operated according to that.  He also believes in “The redwings way” and maybe you don’t, but again, it leads to “the devil you know” is better than the “devil you don’t” and that consistency is good for the development of future players.  That attempting to be competitive is good for the development of your younger players.  These aren’t “facts” or “truths’ but they are what he believe.  Maybe you disagree, but it doesn’t make him a bad GM. 

Everyone operates like he’s some czar running the show too… he has other people in the ORG… maybe they are all Holland discipes or appologists or whatever else and nobody stands up to the man, but that is all speculation.  He’s signed some bad contracts, sure, but every team does.  I still haven’t heard a good argument for how they are currently hurting the team however even if they are crappy contracts.  Everyone says he makes excuses but nobody KNOWS that what he says isn’t truth and that he really hasn’t been able to make a trade bcause nobody wants what we haev to offer or the cost would hve been too high etc…. so what if he hasn’t done a rebuild, you haven’t done it till you’ve done it…. are there some GM’s lying around that you suggest we bring in that have?  Does it take a lot of talent as a GM to tank and draft high?  The “plan” is the problem… if you want to change the “plan” Im on board, but I don’t know why everyone thinks Holland can’t execute a different plan.

Posted by DieByTheWing on 02/03/17 at 10:27 AM ET

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There is a difference between saying trades are hard and not acting and saying it but still finding a way to accomplish things.

Nobody is asking for Holland to just make trades when the return is crap. What they are saying is that Holland CANNOT stand by the notion that this team COULD make the playoffs or if they did they COULD make a run. That’s pure fantasy. No smart gambler bets their money on those odds.

You can continually say that Holland is doing his job but I’ll continually say he is not unless the sole measure for success is tickets sold and only the new arena will keep that steady going forward. His W-L record and playoff success since their last Stanley Cup appearance is dismal. The team is trending down, not up. What exactly is there to say he is doing a bad job.

Posted by evileye on 02/03/17 at 03:33 PM ET

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