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Snow Wondering Why Penguins Were Not Fined

via the CP at The Hockey News,

New York Islanders general manager Garth Snow can accept the NHL’s punishment following a fight-filled game against Pittsburgh.

He’s just wondering why the Penguins also weren’t fined US$100,000.

Snow spoke Sunday before the Islanders’ game at Buffalo, and a day after the NHL suspended two Islanders and fined the team for failing to control its players.

The Penguins were not fined, and only Eric Godard was suspended 10 games for leaving the bench to join a third-period brawl.

Snow said he was surprised the Penguins also weren’t fined, while noting that no Islanders player left the bench to fight.

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cs6687's avatar

What did the Penguins do to deserve a fine, Godard notwithstanding? Defend themselves? Snow’s a jackass.

Posted by cs6687 on 02/13/11 at 05:41 PM ET

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How were the pens in control of their players if Goddard came off the bench? That is why they should have been fined also.

Posted by tigerjeb on 02/13/11 at 05:48 PM ET

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Which team had more game misconducts?

Posted by Unicorn Force from DC (but like everyone here, I'm not a local) on 02/13/11 at 05:49 PM ET

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Game misconducts have nothing to do with anything in this mess.

Posted by cs6687 on 02/13/11 at 05:51 PM ET

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As if the Bitchburgh Bettmans would ever be fined for anything.

Posted by Jennemy of the Skate from the bar car on the stress train on 02/13/11 at 05:56 PM ET

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As if the Bitchburgh Bettmans would ever be fined for anything.

Another terrific contribution.

Posted by cs6687 on 02/13/11 at 05:57 PM ET

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Come on cs, we should know, as Pens fans, our team never gets fined or suspended.  The Pens never get a penalty called against us and commit things like what happen on Long Island all the time.  The league brushes it aside because the Pens are the golden team.  I though this was all well known by now?

Posted by pens fan in baltimore on 02/13/11 at 06:09 PM ET

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Funny I am still wondering how Snow is a GM ?

Posted by Evilpens on 02/13/11 at 06:14 PM ET

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If I’m not mistaken, any player leaving the bench, is suposed to be suspended a certain # of games, and the player/team fined I believe in the range of $50,000/$100,000. The league implemented this policy about 15 years ago to curtail bench clearing brawls. So, I’m wondeing why the suspension, but no fine???

Posted by Down River Dan on 02/13/11 at 06:17 PM ET

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Posted by Jennemy of the Skate from putting the b*tches in the box on 02/13/11 at 02:56 PM ET

And I always thought you were actually one of the intelligent ones.  Guess not.

Posted by pens fan in baltimore on 02/13/11 at 03:09 PM ET

Don’t forget, the Penguins DESERVED what happened to them on Long Island.  They’ve been asking for it for years.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 02/13/11 at 06:17 PM ET

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If there was a fund set up to help the Islanders pay off their fine, I for one, would be the first to contribute

Posted by yzer19man from Chicago, IL on 02/13/11 at 06:23 PM ET

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yzer19man   Sure mommy & daddy can afford it ?

Posted by Evilpens on 02/13/11 at 06:30 PM ET

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OK, so my memory of the amount of the fine was off a bit. 

The following is posted on the league website for ALL to read.

NHL Rule-Book:

70.10 Fines and SuspensionsThe first player to leave the players’ or penalty bench during an altercation or for the purpose of starting an altercation from either or both teams shall be suspended automatically without pay for the next ten (10) regular League and/or Play-off games of his team.
The second player to leave the players’ or penalty bench during an altercation or for the purpose of starting an altercation from either or both teams shall be suspended automatically without pay for the next five (5) regular League and/or Play-off games.

The determination as to which players shall be deemed the first or second players to have left their respective players’ or penalty benches shall be made by the Referees in consultation with the Linesmen and off-ice officials. In the event that they areunable to identify the offending players, the matter will be referred to the Commissioner or his designee and such determinations may be made subsequently based on reports and other information including but not limited to television tapes.

Any team that has a player penalized for being the first or second player to leave the players’ or penalty bench during an altercation or for the purpose of starting an altercation, shall be fined ten thousand dollars ($10,000) for the first instance. This fine shall be increased by five thousand dollars ($5,000) for each subsequent occurrence over the next following three-year period.


The league can’t even follow their own rules.

Posted by Down River Dan on 02/13/11 at 06:32 PM ET

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In response to helping them pay their fine, 20 + people have already helped. Who are these mysterious few? The Owners of every successful team helping keep a team in Long Island entirely by revenue sharing. That likely includes even Mario.

Posted by inferno31 on 02/13/11 at 07:03 PM ET

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I thought goddard surrendered $40k in salary to the player’s fund. Maybe they just reimagined the fine?

I’m also surprised the Pens weren’t fined for their role in this circus.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 02/13/11 at 07:08 PM ET

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What did the Penguins do that should be fined, Godard notwithstanding? They were defending themselves. Are they not allowed to do that?

Posted by cs6687 on 02/13/11 at 07:15 PM ET

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What did the Penguins do that should be fined?


Please see my post above.

It’s not personal…...it’s in the rule-book.  grin

Posted by Down River Dan on 02/13/11 at 07:22 PM ET

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They probably were fined. It just wasn’t mentioned.

Posted by cs6687 on 02/13/11 at 07:25 PM ET

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Still waiting to hear why the Penguins should be fined more than the 10k that is required by the rulebook.

Posted by cs6687 on 02/13/11 at 07:45 PM ET

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Funny I am still wondering how Snow is a GM ?

He was hired by the Islanders organization.

Posted by Garth on 02/13/11 at 07:56 PM ET

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I thought goddard surrendered $40k in salary to the player’s fund. Maybe they just reimagined the fine?

That’s the salary he forfeits during the suspension.  Not sure if it technically counts as a “fine” or not…

Posted by Garth on 02/13/11 at 08:01 PM ET

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If there was a fund set up to help the Islanders pay off their fine, I for one, would be the first to contribute

You sully Yzerman’s good name.  He was among the classiest and most respectable players ever to grace the ice.  The rest of us Red Wings fans would prefer you stop using his name and image attached to comments like this.

We Red Wings fans have enjoyed our fight filled revenge games to retaliate for cheap and dirty hits made against our players.  We did it without sucker punches and elbows to the heads.  What the Islanders did was embarrassing and they deserved the fine, no matter how much of a rivalry we have with the team they did it to.

Posted by HitokiriEric from Ann Arbor, MI on 02/13/11 at 08:23 PM ET

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Any team that has a player penalized for being the first or second player to leave the players’ or penalty bench during an altercation or for the purpose of starting an altercation, shall be fined ten thousand dollars ($10,000) for the first instance. This fine shall be increased by five thousand dollars ($5,000) for each subsequent occurrence over the next following three-year period.

The league can’t even follow their own rules.

I’m probably wrong, but I thought among the twitter updates last night, a couple sources did say the Pens had their mandatory $10k fine included with Godard’s suspension.

I’ll see if I can dig it up, but given the lack of its inclusion in the articles today, it might be a case of the league rescinding its mandatory punishments, yet again.

The league rules leave way too many loopholes for shit like that on mandatory punishment.  When was the last time someone who received an instigator call in the last five minutes of a game actually serve the one game mandatory suspension?

Posted by HitokiriEric from Ann Arbor, MI on 02/13/11 at 08:27 PM ET

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HitokiriEric   THank You !! There is a Knowledgeable & Classy Wings fan !!

Posted by Evilpens on 02/13/11 at 09:17 PM ET

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no suspension for Bylsma?

Posted by edillac from isolation on 02/13/11 at 09:23 PM ET

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suspension for Bylsma?

No. Because he didn’t command Godard to go over the bench to get Haley the loser. Godard admitted that.

Posted by cs6687 on 02/13/11 at 09:30 PM ET

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So, I’m wondeing why the suspension, but no fine???
Posted by Down River Dan on 02/13/11 at 03:17 PM ET

no suspension for Bylsma?
Posted by edillac from Rollin’ down the street on 02/13/11 at 06:23 PM ET

Technically, Penguins coach Dan Bylsma received an automatic suspension, pending a league review, as a result of Godard’s actions, per Rule 70.10. The league, however, opted against enforcing it.

http://post-gazette.com/pg/11044/1125230-61.stm

Posted by NathanBC on 02/13/11 at 09:35 PM ET

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On friday night the Islanders beat the Penguins into submission.  You can pretty much right off the Penguins season from this point on.  They’re done.  Most hockey teams would use that game as a chance to come together, and fight back even more.  The Penguins have done nothing but whine and cry like a bunch of girls.  Hockey is a man’s game.  I don’t know if Marian Lempew is to blame or the Penguins metrosexual coach, but they’re prooving what a pathetic organization they really are.  THIS IS HOCKEY YOU PITTSBURGH GIRLS!!!  STOP CRYING AND SHOW SOME BALLS!!!

Posted by RogerNYLA on 02/14/11 at 01:37 AM ET

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Pittsburgh is the NHL darling team. Look at how they didn’t suspend Malik in the Cup finals two years ago when he got a match penalty which calls for and automatic one game suspension. Now they don’t get the 100K fine when they are clearly not in control of thee players. WHAT A JOKE

Posted by jtssrx on 02/14/11 at 04:07 PM ET

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