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Ryan Miller Thinking About Players Like His Brother

Ryan Miller exchanged texts and emails with the Buffalo News yesterday...

from John Vogl of the Buffalo News,

“By limiting years of a contract and variance in the level of salary year to year, the player hurt is any player temporarily caught in between what will become a two-tier salary structure,” Miller wrote. “It is true a vast majority of players will never use the right to sign for up to five years. That is not even close to a point in this argument. It is about what money is available to the biggest group in the sport and maintaining NHL hockey as a long-term career option.

“A lot has been said about the stars being greedy. But this is an issue that directly affects my brother [Detroit third-line forward Drew Miller], and I am absolutely thinking about players like him and the good of the game. ... It makes average player careers shorter, so why as a group of players would we accept to accelerate that or create a lever to accelerate that in an agreement that would last 10 years? We don’t want to do it.”

So for as far as the sides have come since September – they have settled on nine pages worth of issues – they have a long way to go and not a lot of time to get there.

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Red Winger's avatar

Ryan Miller Thinking About Players Like His Brother

Excuse me while I get a tissue…

the victimization of the players has got to stop (Paul, how can I put these words into a 4 font?)

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 12/08/12 at 10:58 AM ET

redxblack's avatar

Victimization? The league is demanding severe concessions from the players and offering nothing in return. Miller has solidarity with the other players. He’s using his star status to be a spokesperson for ALL NHL players. I commend him heartily.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 12/08/12 at 12:02 PM ET

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Miller has solidarity with the other players. He’s using his star status to be a spokesperson for ALL NHL players. I commend him heartily.

That’s such a crock of poop.

Every player tries to get the best deal they can when it’s their turn to be a FA.  They don’t give a crap if their contract leaves less money on the table for other guys, just like Ryan bleeping Miller didn’t give a crap if his deal took money out of the wallets of some other soon to be FA.  Which it most certainly did.  Ryan bleeping Miller didn’t get offered 7 mil a year only to turn it down to take 6.25 so 750k could go to other guys.

It’s a bunch of malarkey and the people that fall for it are being gullible.

Further, term length doesn’t have anything to do with salary striation.  It’s a stupid, uninformed point for Ryan Miller to be making.

The salary cap is what creates that, not the length of the contract.  When you only have so many dollars to spend, that means you have to spend a lot on the top tier guys and fill in holes with whatever is left.

Whether a guy is signed for 3 years or 10 years doesn’t change that.

Hell, if anything shorter contracts are a good thing for players because it will allow the guys who are actually worth it to make more money.  If a whole bunch of players are locked into 8+ year deals there’s not exactly a long history of those contracts working out for the teams who sign them.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 12/08/12 at 02:11 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Yeah and when Paul Holmgren launched a financial grenade at Shea Weber, he wasn’t acting for the good of the entire league.  Collective bargaining and individual bargaining are not the same thing.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 12/08/12 at 02:43 PM ET

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I agree with J.J.

On a mostly unrelated topic, thank you for having an ignore list in the user preferences. This is a wonderful wonderful feature.

Posted by clownfat on 12/08/12 at 03:28 PM ET

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Collective bargaining and individual bargaining are not the same thing.

The point is that Miller pretending like he’s thinking of other players now when the second the deal is signed he will cease thinking of other players is hypocritical at least, dishonest at worst.

On both the owner and player side once the deal is signed it’s all about owner vs. owner and player vs. player.  There’s no ‘solidarity’.  There’s no ‘brotherhood’.

There never has been.  A guy will try to beat the guy across from him on the ice so he wins and they lose.  A guy on the fourth line will try and beat out the guy on the third line so he gets that spot.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 12/08/12 at 04:49 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Yes. Once they are done collectively bargaining, they will go back to singularly bargaining.  We agree.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 12/08/12 at 06:14 PM ET

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Yes. Once they are done collectively bargaining, they will go back to singularly bargaining.  We agree.

The point is that MIller’s being disingenuous at best when he tries to characterize his position as magnanimous in nature.  It’s not.  It’s purely self interest.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 12/09/12 at 04:17 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

If Miller were that selfish, he would have been calling for decertification a long time ago. Every man for himself works remarkably well for the best players in the game.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 12/09/12 at 04:24 PM ET

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Miller has solidarity with the other players. He’s using his star status to be a spokesperson for ALL NHL players. I commend him heartily.

Selflessness and team play is and has always been such a big part of Ryan Miller, the man…
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Gee, it’s not as if he’s the type of guy whose actions and perspectives inspire such little loyalty in his teammates that they have to be shamed into sticking up for him by the media. Or the type of guy who has ever been widely rumored to have demanded a trade for such a petty reason as because he didn’t like the weather in the city he was playing in. Nope, not like that at all.

I’m sorry, if this article had been written about David Backes or, Hell, even Vincent Lecavalier (who has little financial stake in fighting any of the remaining battles and exercised his no-trade twice, in part, because he liked his teammates and situation), it might fly. But not Miller. Miller is do or die on those retirement deals because he doesn’t yet have one and is likely to get one (and probably in somewhere warmer) in July if they still exist. There’s nothing benevolent about anything Miller’s saying or doing, even if other guys elsewhere might think the same things for more altruistic reasons..

Posted by larry on 12/09/12 at 04:57 PM ET

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HHD - I forgot that the players were responsible for managing the team’s payroll. What exactly does a GM do in your world?

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 12/09/12 at 06:39 PM ET

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