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Report- Why Willie Desjardins Turned Down The Penguins

We will probably hear more like this but will we ever know the whole truth?

 

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SYF's avatar

This gets better and better.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 06/20/14 at 06:08 PM ET

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Expanded on the tweets by Sekeres:

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Yes, but you create a paranoid environment for your HC when you only commit for 2 yrs & eye coaches on other benches @Shawn_Roberts13

It sounds like they’re still stuck on the presumption that Babcock is leaving the Wings for the Pens after this season.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 06/20/14 at 06:15 PM ET

WingsFanInBeanLand's avatar

It sounds like they’re still stuck on the presumption that Babcock is leaving the Wings for the Pens after this season.

Uncle Mike is being groomed to be the Wings next GM.  In two to three years, Tick-tock retires, Babs slips into his spot, and Blashill is the next head coach.

Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from where free agents no longer dare. on 06/20/14 at 08:19 PM ET

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Uncle Mike is being groomed to be the Wings next GM.

Ooof, I don’t envy whoever coaches under him, having to figure out a way to win with a roster full of Clearys, Glendenings and Abdelkaders…

Posted by Garth on 06/20/14 at 09:07 PM ET

Iggy_Rules's avatar

Babcock is the best coach in the league. Why would you want to take the best coach in the league and make them a GM? Then you have an unproven GM and you have to go find another great coach. Doesn’t make sense.

How long is Yzermans contract in Tampa? When does Holland intend to retire? Could be that yzerman goes back to Detroit as gm when Holland retires.

Posted by Iggy_Rules from Calgary, Canada on 06/21/14 at 07:09 AM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

When does Holland intend to retire?

Posted by Iggy_Rules from Calgary, Canada on 06/21/14 at 08:09 AM ET

The same day Lidstrom retires. Oops. wink


Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 06/21/14 at 08:56 AM ET

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So Pierre reportedly turned down the GM job because the Pens wouldn’t give any kind of security and maybe not enough actual power.

PIT reportedly wanted Peters, but Peters takes the CAR job instead.  Think about that:  he chose CAR over possibly PIT.  That says something.  It’s possible he talked to PIT but they once again offered only a couple of years but CAR offered more.

Now, they reportedly lose Desjardins because they again won’t give any real security?

Sounds to me like the Pens are turning into quite the mess because they thin the vlaue of being a part of their org is greater than it actually is.  It’s not the plum job they seem to think,  I don’t think this has anything to do with Babcock, and people need to tear themselves away from that whole obsession.  It has to do with an organization that thinks a lot more of itself than the reality of the situation, which is kinda’ a nightmare with the cap situation, a superstar who nobody can ever seem to play or find chemistry with, and a goalie who has huge gaffes during the playoffs and can crumble mentally.

Sounds like PIT is on the decline.

Posted by Primis on 06/21/14 at 09:33 AM ET

SYF's avatar

I don’t think this has anything to do with Babcock, and people need to tear themselves away from that whole obsession.

Posted by Primis on 06/21/14 at 10:33 AM ET

That crowd is about 50-50 - one half who believes Babcock can’t wait to sign with PIT after his contract ends with the Wings and the other half who are laughing at the other half.  It is astonishing how often Babcock and Holland have repeatedly said the same things over and over and over again just a couple of months ago and the Waiting-on-Babcock crowd just can’t let go of that dream.

If anything, it’s fun to watch the Waiting-on-Babcock crowd squeeze their thighs together every single time they talk about it.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 06/21/14 at 11:10 AM ET

awould's avatar

The Babcock to Pens fantasy was created by a rumor. It has zero basis in reality.

Babcock is planning to go to Winnipeg because he relishes a challenge. Please discuss.

The situation w/ the Pens coaching circus is really really bad. First they hang Bylsma out to dry. Then they apparently want to hire a coach who will have to leave his balls at the door. Their cap situation is a mess and their playoff performances of late have exposed other roster issues. Not really a dream job. Lots more room to fail than succeed.

 

Posted by awould on 06/21/14 at 01:20 PM ET

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Heh.  Agree, awould.  I think it started in TO first before Shanny took over and stuck with Crylyle.  Someone (Rossi, perhaps?) in PIT assumed the same SHOULD happen in PIT (“Who doesn’t want to coach the two best players in the world?”).

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 06/21/14 at 01:26 PM ET

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The fact they only offered a 2 year contract for an up-and-coming coach that was in-demand having just come off of a great season in the AHL reeks of ownership interference and/or bad decision making by the GM. The fact of the matter now is, if you want a good coach, even if you are simply trying to catch the “hot” new NHL coach, you have to pay for it. Lack of NHL experience isn’t the bargaining chip that it used to be for clubs going after younger/“newer” coaches.

I wouldn’t specifically say it has anything to do with the Babcock rumors, but it could potentially shed light on where the ownership thinking is at. They seem delusional—like they think they’ll just sign this up-and-comer to a short deal and if he doesn’t work out perfectly this year, then they’ll chase Babcock or whoever is available next offseason that has a pedigree.

I don’t mean to sound like a Wings fan that is still a tad bitter over 2009, but really, in terms of on-ice success, this Pens ownership group had everything handed to them. Now the going is a bit tough and they actually need to make good decisions, and instead they’re acting like entitled turds and imploding before our eyes. They got the Crosby lottery. They tanked enough years in a row that they were able to get Fleury, Malkin, and Staal, to go with Sid. They absolutely hit some other draft picks (Letang first and foremost) and did a nice job building with veteran UFAs (Roberts, Guerin, Gonchar), so it’s not all negative here. But the team was on the brink of being shuffled to KC and two the five best players in the game fell into their laps.

Now the going is a bit tough because they’ve been unable to develop the lower draft picks that coincide with their successful years, and ownership had no freakin’ idea how to cope. Firing Shero made some sense. But to have no plan in place to replace Shero, to leave Bylsma a sitting duck… amateur stuff.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 06/23/14 at 09:09 AM ET

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