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Report- O’Reilly Would Have Had To Clear Waivers If Avs Did Not Match

from Chris Johnston of Sportsnet,

In a bizarre twist to an already unusual story, Sportsnet.ca has discovered that the Flames were not only in danger of losing 2013 first- and third-round draft picks as compensation if the Avs hadn’t matched the O’Reilly contract, but they also would likely have had to surrender the player before ever getting him in uniform.

That’s because O’Reilly would have needed to clear waivers before joining the team’s roster.

The unsigned forward spent part of the NHL lockout playing with his brother, Cal, for Magnitogorsk in Russia. According to Metallurg coach Paul Maurice and KHL spokesman Shawn McBride, he appeared in games on Jan. 21 and Jan. 23 – both after the shortened NHL schedule was back underway – which meant that waivers were required before O’Reilly could return to the NHL as a free agent midway through the season.

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added 2:11pm,

Chris Johnston joined Sportsnet's Hockey Central today to discuss all the scenarios that could have played out if Colorado did not mach the offer sheet.

Watch below and it looks like some of the Sportsne video can be embedded again.

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henrymalredo's avatar

Is there something in the water in Calgary?  Darryl Sutter does a crummy job, but then wins a Cup with LA after he leaves.  Feaster, who has a Cup with Tampa Bay, is looked to be the guy to revive the team, but he comes in and does the same stupid stuff.

Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 03/01/13 at 12:51 PM ET

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Is there something in the water in Calgary?  Darryl Sutter does a crummy job, but then wins a Cup with LA after he leaves.  Feaster, who has a Cup with Tampa Bay, is looked to be the guy to revive the team, but he comes in and does the same stupid stuff.
Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 03/01/13 at 11:51 AM ET

It’s all that craptacular country music they play up there. It rots the brain.

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 03/01/13 at 01:20 PM ET

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As I said, a spectacularly stupid franchise.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 03/01/13 at 01:28 PM ET

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If he played in Russia after the start of the NHL season why doesn’t he have to still clear waivers?

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey on 03/01/13 at 01:28 PM ET

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If he played in Russia after the start of the NHL season why doesn’t he have to still clear waivers?

...huh?

Posted by Garth on 03/01/13 at 01:31 PM ET

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A comment on the site provided this info from current CBA, I didn’t verify it myself though.  Looks like the article might be incorrect.


““13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside
North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his
Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs)
only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the
Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or
Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim.”

“All Players on a Club’s Reserve List and Restricted Free Agent List will be exempt from the
application of CBA 13.23 Waivers in the case of a mid-season signing.

For further clarity, if Club A trades such a Player to Club B and Club B signs the Player to an SPC,
such Player will be exempt from the application of CBA 13.23.”

He wouldn’t have to clear waivers.”

Posted by Tikan on 03/01/13 at 01:35 PM ET

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If he played in Russia after the start of the NHL season why doesn’t he have to still clear waivers?

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey

Yeah, I had the same question after reading the article

Posted by Zqto on 03/01/13 at 01:38 PM ET

Nathan's avatar

Somehow, this whole thing ended up being supremely stupid for both the Avs and the Flames.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 03/01/13 at 01:45 PM ET

phillyd's avatar

“All Players on a Club’s Reserve List and Restricted Free Agent List will be exempt from the
application of CBA 13.23 Waivers in the case of a mid-season signing.

Posted by Tikan on 03/01/13 at 12:35 PM ET

Thanks Tikan, that answers my question.

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey on 03/01/13 at 01:47 PM ET

Luongo-is-my-hero's avatar

yet another pointless article by sportsnet.

Posted by Luongo-is-my-hero on 03/01/13 at 02:10 PM ET

Paul's avatar

If you read some of the latest tweets from Bob McKenzie, he says Chris Johnston was right.

For those asking, yes, my understanding is if COL hadn’t matched CGY offer on O’Reilly, CGY would have had to put him on waivers to play now

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/01/13 at 02:24 PM ET

Paul's avatar

I’ve added a video to the post of Chris Johnston talking about this unique situation.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/01/13 at 03:13 PM ET

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“All Players on a Club’s Reserve List and Restricted Free Agent List will be exempt from the
application of CBA 13.23 Waivers in the case of a mid-season signing.

For further clarity, if Club A trades such a Player to Club B and Club B signs the Player to an SPC,
such Player will be exempt from the application of CBA 13.23.”

He wouldn’t have to clear waivers.”

Posted by Tikan on 03/01/13 at 12:35 PM ET

Think that just means Colorado can resign him or trade him to a team that can re-sign him.

With an offer sheet…he’s not on Calgary’s reserve list or RFA list. That’s how I would interpret this, anyway.

Posted by larry on 03/01/13 at 03:40 PM ET

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yet another pointless article by sportsnet.

I think the point is that he was on Colorado’s protected list, not Calgary’s.

So, when Calgary would have allegedly gotten his rights via offer sheet the mechanism which protected him from waivers as a property of Colorado would not apply.  Only Colorado could claim him and be exempt from re-entry waivers.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 03/01/13 at 03:41 PM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

Oh shut up, Adriane.

Posted by mrfluffy from A wide spot on I-90 in Montana on 03/01/13 at 03:43 PM ET

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Posted by larry on 03/01/13 at 02:40 PM ET

He was posting that in response to my question which was why Colorado could match and he not go through waivers since he had played overseas.

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey on 03/01/13 at 05:02 PM ET

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They said Bill Daly confirmed that he would have needed to go through waivers on that video.

Posted by Tikan on 03/01/13 at 05:12 PM ET

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