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Ranking The GM/Coach Combos In The NHL

from John Boruk of CSNPhilly,

We’ve celebrated two Stanley Cup champions and endured another lockout, so which team has the top GM/coach combo in the NHL now? Let's break it down:

1. Chicago Blackhawks -- ninth in 2012 (Stan Bowman/Joel Quenneville)
Two Stanley Cup championships in a four-year period. The Chicago Blackhawks have overtaken the Detroit Red Wings as the NHL’s gold standard. Bowman has secured his core players, while adding key contributors like Bryan Bickell who excelled in the postseason. Quenneville is easily one of the league’s top five coaches and has never had a losing year in 16 NHL seasons.

2. Boston Bruins -- second in 2012 (Peter Chiarelli/Claude Julien)
Chiarelli and Julien have been together for six years and have made the playoffs each year including a Stanley Cup in 2011. The team did not skip a beat after goalie Tim Thomas elected to sit out the season. Chiarelli re-signed top center Patrice Bergeron, added Jarome Iginla and traded for Loui Eriksson as part of the biggest blockbuster trade this offseason. Torey Krug and Dougie Hamilton give the franchise a promising future on defense.

read on for a look at the next 28 combos...

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Evilpens's avatar

8. Washington Capitals – 10th in 2012 (George McPhee/Adam Oates) 


14. Philadelphia Flyers—fourth in 2012 (Paul Holmgren/Peter Laviolette)

Homer much ?? used to work in Washington covering the Craps & now Covers the Cryers LOL

Posted by Evilpens on 08/27/13 at 11:47 AM ET

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The Chicago Blackhawks have overtaken the Detroit Red Wings as the NHL’s gold standard.

Bitch, please.

Posted by SYF from Alana Blanchard's Bikinis and Surfboards on 08/27/13 at 11:47 AM ET

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EP, he worked in Detroit too.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 08/27/13 at 11:48 AM ET

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Don’t knock the Hawks.  That’s an impressive 5 year playoff streak they got going.  Plus they were picked to missed the playoffs every one of those years…...or was it be one of the best teams and manage not to live up to expectations a few times…...I can’t remember.

Thankfully here in Chicago, I have the most unbiased sports media to rewrite history for me by properly painting the Hawks as the classic underdog who makes good.  I’m anxiously waiting for the Hallmark movie of the week detailing the lifelong trials of the saintly Patrick Kane.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 08/27/13 at 12:17 PM ET

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While the Hawks are a great team, they were built out of SUCKING for a decade. That doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of teams who suck for a decade and don’t ever capitalized on #1 overall picks, but it seems a little convenient to just pick the two teams that made it to the finals for this list. I’d say coach/gm combo should be more about overachieving than simply achieving. It’s not about just winning, it’s about winning through savvy coaching and managing. And while I would never try and argue that the Hawks and Bruins don’t have both of these to some degree, the Hawks in particular are winning based on highly drafted talent more than either coaching or managing (though I do give Stan credit for blowing up the team after the last cup and coming back so soon with another contender). I think Quenville is pretty overrated though. They won despite him not because of him. Sorry Hawks fans, I realize you probably disagree with this.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 08/27/13 at 12:29 PM ET

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Paul I don’t have a argument where he rated the Wings BUT I do with the Craps & Cryers & Pens for that matter

Posted by Evilpens on 08/27/13 at 12:58 PM ET

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Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 08/27/13 at 01:29 PM ET

They didn’t “just pick the two teams that made it to the finals for this list”, the picked one team that has won the cup twice in four years and one that has a cup and a finals appearance in three years.  Honestly, who should be ahead of them?  Neither the Wings nor the Pens have had that kind of success in recent years and both have unquestionably under performed in the last couple years.

Sorry, but how do you judge them based on anything other than recent success?

Posted by Garth on 08/27/13 at 01:00 PM ET

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I understand EP, just pointing out the fact he worked in Detroit too.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 08/27/13 at 01:00 PM ET

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Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 08/27/13 at 01:29 PM ET

They didn’t “just pick the two teams that made it to the finals for this list”, the picked one team that has won the cup twice in four years and one that has a cup and a finals appearance in three years.  Honestly, who should be ahead of them?  Neither the Wings nor the Pens have had that kind of success in recent years and both have unquestionably under performed in the last couple years.

Sorry, but how do you judge them based on anything other than recent success?

Posted by Garth on 08/27/13 at 01:01 PM ET

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1. Chicago Blackhawks—ninth in 2012 (Stan Bowman/Joel Quenneville)

That should read(Scotty Bowman/Joel Quennville/*Stan Bowman). Nothing happened until Scotty came aboard.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

 

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 08/27/13 at 01:21 PM ET

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The ranking of Toronto and Philly are mind boggling. Considering Toronto’s summer of overspending themselves into a cap nightmare and Philly’s use of two compliance buyouts to overpay two aging players on a non-playoff team I don’t see that there was any rhyme or reason.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 08/27/13 at 01:23 PM ET

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The Red Wings fall from the top spot as they continue their transition from the Nicklas Lidstrom era. They remain highly competitive, but they’re simply not in the upper echelon of teams right now. However, the move to the Eastern Conference should give the Wings an easier road through the playoffs, where they have failed to reach the Conference Finals in each of the past four years. Holland and Babcock are both top five on their own merits.

So the Red Wings fall because Lidstrom retired? You’d think managing the transition as well as they have would be seen as a positive, not a reason to discount them. Conversely, getting an easier road to the playoffs purely because they switched conferences should be a reason to get more critical of attributing success to the coach/GM moving forward, right?

The logic fails.

Posted by awould on 08/27/13 at 03:01 PM ET

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So the Red Wings fall because Lidstrom retired? You’d think managing the transition as well as they have would be seen as a positive, not a reason to discount them.

EXACTLY!

This is what I was trying to say. It’s supposed to be about management and coaching duos and their affect on success, NOT simply how successful teams are.

Garth, how you possibly consider the Wings “unquestionably underperforming” last year is beyond me (and I’m sure most anyone who paid any attention). They VASTLY outperformed most people’s expectations including the players and staff themselves. They SHOULD have knocked out the Hawks who, on paper, should have a much better team.

Not only did we lose Lids, but Suter/Parise also chose home over Detroit, we brought in a bunch of young guys with no training camp, we were pretty decimated by injuries and succeeded in large part due to the fact that the Holland/Babcock duo was at maybe its finest ever last season. Our success last season was much more due to those two guys than the success of the 2008 cup team. This list just doesn’t stick to a consistent premise.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 08/27/13 at 04:02 PM ET

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So the Red Wings fall because Lidstrom retired?

Where does it say that?

Posted by Garth on 08/27/13 at 05:39 PM ET

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So the Red Wings fall because Lidstrom retired?

Where does it say that?

Posted by Garth on 08/27/13 at 06:39 PM ET

The Red Wings fall from the top spot as they continue their transition from the Nicklas Lidstrom era.

See how he notes that they fall from the top spot and then makes an immediate point to mention they are continuing their transition from the LIdstrom era? That is done on purpose by the writer to imply a relationship between the two events. First Lidstrom retires. This sets the Wings on the path to transition to a team without Lidstrom. This has led them to fall from the top spot, in the opinion of the writer. There are many other words and even some punctuation so it is easy to miss the point of the statement.

Posted by awould on 08/27/13 at 05:52 PM ET

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as they continue

Does that mean “because”?

Posted by Garth on 08/27/13 at 07:28 PM ET

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Stan Bowman seems to be a good GM but I really don’t think Quenneville is a top 5 or 10 or maybe even 15 coach in the NHL.

Posted by Sven22 from Grand Rapids on 08/27/13 at 07:39 PM ET

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as they continue

Does that mean “because”?

Posted by Garth on 08/27/13 at 08:28 PM ET


In this case, yes.

Posted by awould on 08/27/13 at 08:41 PM ET

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Kate’s dead on with her assessment. Scotty Bowman = Chicago winning.

I don’t see Detroit in the top spot mostly because they have had such a hard time getting premier free agents in the cap era and tend to hang on to broken pieces far too long - all of that is on the GM. The GM and coach do work well together from all appearances. What Babcock asks for, he seems to get, provided that Holland can make a deal (and too often he can’t). 

I don’t see Chicago in the top spot either because we all know that Mustache is a hothead and not a serious coach. Their successes, including that amazing streak last year, aren’t directly attributable to the coaching as much as the team building.

As much as I dislike the Dive, I expect them to have a hand-in-glove relationship behind the bench and in the offices next year.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 08/28/13 at 09:38 AM ET

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Pretty big jump for Ottawa - and I think it’s credit where credit is due. Obviously MacLean is a huge part of that - although Murray has been a good GM operating in a challenging environment. I wouldn’t have been shocked if the’d been penalized for the Alfie debacle, though.

Posted by Da lil Guy from Guelph, Ontario on 08/28/13 at 09:50 AM ET

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