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Down River Dan's avatar

I realize no one here has answers to these questions.

1. If you are the #11 “worst” team does this mean the best you could do is #2 pick ??

2. Is the rule about two wins in five years retroactive (looking at you rangers, Buffalo,NJ) ??

Posted by Down River Dan on 03/08/21 at 04:27 PM ET

The Meal's avatar

#1. Could go either way.

#2. I’d think you’d need all stakeholders (i.e., an appropriate number of all the GMs) to “buy-in” to whatever the new idea is.  The five most recent #1 draft pickers are very likely candidates to not vote for a retroactive clause.

Hopefully the three proposals in Chris Johnson’s post are independent of each other, not an all-or-nothing set of ideas.

Posted by The Meal from Firestone, CO on 03/08/21 at 04:38 PM ET

MurrayChadwick's avatar

Despite the Wings getting shafted of late, I am fine with the current rules aside from last year, that was a staged gimmick imo.

That said, these rules would benefit Detroit in the here and now, so I’m good with these too.

Posted by MurrayChadwick from YzerHolland2.0's pixie dust fueled bandwagon on 03/08/21 at 05:02 PM ET

d ca's avatar

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Adding to @reporterchris
note: potential changes won’t take effect until 2022 Draft, and previous lottery victories will not count towards a team’s total.

3:43 PM · Mar 8, 2021·Twitter Web App

Next year’s draft and the previous drafts won’t apply.

Posted by d ca on 03/08/21 at 05:02 PM ET

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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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36m
Replying to
@FriedgeHNIC
Excuse me, three picks down to two decided by a lottery is this year….rest is 2022.

So change in 2021 is # 3 by lottery gone. All other changes next year….

Posted by d ca on 03/08/21 at 05:24 PM ET

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the #3 change was already built in with seattle correct?

and won’t really matter otherwise ( unless you run a disfunctional franchise like edmonton or buffalo) since it doesn’t look like they changed the actual odds

Posted by akwingsfan on 03/08/21 at 05:31 PM ET

Paul's avatar

from Mike Brehm of USA TODAY at the Detroit Free Press,

The Detroit Red Wings finished last overall with 39 points in 2019-20, 23 beyond the 30th-ranked Ottawa Senators.

But after the draft lottery was conducted, the Red Wings ended up picking fourth.

That isn’t likely to happen again, according to Sportsnet.

The Canadian network reported that the league is proposing three changes to the draft lottery that would have to be voted on by the board of governors.

-Teams would be limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period.

-Teams would be allowed to jump only 10 spots with a lottery win.

-The number of picks decided by the lottery would be reduced from three to two.

The last one would have helped the Red Wings, who had an 18.5% chance of winning the right to draft Alexis Lafreniere. Instead, they missed out on the top three picks and the New York Rangers chose first overall after losing in the qualifying round.

The first proposed change aims to prevent long-term tanking. The second would prevent a team that falls just short of making the playoffs from landing the No. 1 pick.

The lottery includes the 15 teams that don’t make the playoffs, or teams that make trades to acquire those picks.

continued

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/08/21 at 08:28 PM ET

bigfrog's avatar

The way Red Wings have been shafted the last 4 drafts, it probably won’t make much difference. Right Gary? angry

Posted by bigfrog on 03/08/21 at 09:42 PM ET

d ca's avatar

the #3 change was already built in with seattle correct?

and won’t really matter otherwise ( unless you run a disfunctional franchise like edmonton or buffalo) since it doesn’t look like they changed the actual odds

Posted by akwingsfan on 03/08/21 at 04:31 PM ET

No.

Seattle is being given the 3rd best odds to win the draft lottery NOT the 3rd overall pick (think of it like them being just better in the standings than Detroit and Buffalo as it is listed currently).

The change means instead of the draft lottery being used to decide the top 3 selections—it will only be the top 2. So when Gary Buttman shafts Detroit yet again they could fall no farther then 4th with a 30th place finish (or no worse than 3rd with a 31st place finish).

Next year (in 2022) the draft adds rules: can’t win 2x in previous five years (the anti-Oilers rule) and can’t move up more than 10 positions (eliminating a playoff contender adding a top pick).

It’s good for the Wings this year and the next 2 at least.

Posted by d ca on 03/09/21 at 12:18 AM ET

Royal Grand Exalted PooBah's avatar

I worry about the change in the odds with these changes. It might increase the odds for the teams that finish higher than the worst team. So the odds stay at 18% for the last place team but get bumped up for the less than last teams. The excuse will be that you can only drop 2 spots now.

Posted by Royal Grand Exalted PooBah from the basement of the Alamo on 03/09/21 at 12:33 AM ET

Steeb's avatar

So we have the Wings picking at #3 instead of 4 for the next two or three years. I guess that’s something.

Posted by Steeb on 03/09/21 at 01:09 PM ET

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