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Pour A Cup Of Coffee And Enjoy It With Jimmy D.

If you are a hockey fan concerned about the CBA negotiations, you need to read the full article George Malik pointed out during the night.

Detroit Red Wings VP Jimmy Devellano answers some questions at Island Sports News,

ISN: So you know the man well and I am guessing have had many meals over the years with him. Does he talk the same way over a quiet meal, or a drink, as he does on TV or radio, or is he more direct with his answers?

"The answer simply Scott is YES, he never seems to give you an answer to a question how you would like it to be, or think it should be answered. But don't mistake that for him being coy or unknowledgeable about the subject. He really is careful with everything he answers, right down to what to order off the menu."

"Let's take Ron McLean for instance on Hockey Night in Canada. He always asks agitated and sometimes exaggerated questions, not for the fans, or to get an answer, but to make what he thinks is good, bloody TV! So he thinks he's above the show, the game, and a lot of times has his own agenda. Well guys like Gary and I see through that as well as anybody would if they did the amount of interviews we have over the years and we tend to get our backs up. After all we are men too and we're not going to sit there and allow some guy to make us look like fools on national television."

"Again, a lot of these guys in the media today are looking out for their own popularity and to hell with the real story. And with Gary, like I said, you can dump as much crap on him as you want, but you're not going to rattle him. He is the strongest guy I know period and that is another reason that perhaps people do not like him."

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After all the years of Don Cherry drawing criticism, it is Ron Maclean that is really the rabble rouser that sticks in the NHL’s craw. Who would have thought that? Is it because Cherry is often seen as a parody of himself and Maclean still is seen as the somewhat sane straightman?

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 09/21/12 at 09:38 AM ET

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If Bettman “sees through” MacLean’s questions so thoroughly then how is it that he always seems flustered and defensive?

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 09/21/12 at 09:38 AM ET

I think it’s exactly that.  Cherry is a blustering asshat and MacLean is a savvy journalist.

I also think that because MacLean (appears, at least) to be even handed and willing to defend the league when he thinks Cherry is out of bounds, that it probably hurts the league more when he is critical or questioning of the actions of Bettman and the league.

It’s easy to dismiss the loudmouth who is always slamming his fist on the desk, harder to dismiss the one who thinks things through before opening his mouth.

Posted by Garth on 09/21/12 at 10:05 AM ET

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It’s easy to dismiss the loudmouth who is always slamming his fist on the desk, harder to dismiss the one who thinks things through before opening his mouth.
Posted by Garth on 09/21/12 at 10:05 AM ET

This ^^^^^

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 09/21/12 at 10:31 AM ET

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...he may of come across as arrogant and condescending…

May? He may have come across as arrogant and condescending? Politicians look sweet and loveable compared to this loser.

...you can dump as much crap on him as you want, but you’re not going to rattle him.

Jimmy D may find that to be an admirable quality, but it also happens to be the definition of a masochist. The Garden Gnome doesn’t just tolerate negative reactions. I think he gets off on it.

 

 

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 09/21/12 at 10:43 AM ET

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He really is careful with everything he answers, right down to what to order off the menu.

He sounds fun to be around.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 09/21/12 at 10:43 AM ET

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He really is careful with everything he answers, right down to what to order off the menu.

He only orders food that is discounted 24%.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 09/21/12 at 10:53 AM ET

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Funny, I never figured Ron McLean for a rabble-rouser.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 09/21/12 at 03:02 PM ET

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nobody’s bothered by the ranch/cattle analogy? what a *#$%@& idiot dickbag thing to say. such a faulty comparison…

Posted by Chet from twitter: thegansen on 09/21/12 at 03:08 PM ET

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The owners can basically be viewed as the Ranch, and the players, and me included, are the cattle. The owners own the Ranch and allow the players to eat there. That’s the way its always been and that the way it will be forever. And the owners simply aren’t going to let a union push them around. It’s not going to happen.

Ouch!

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 09/21/12 at 03:09 PM ET

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This is why labor negotiations are always so emotional, right down to the mostly uninvolved who pick a side and then scream across the line to the ‘opposition’.

At the end of the day, these things are about what value a person has to a business, which is about as personal as it gets.

What Jimmy D is saying here is a rather more virulent strain of my general position, that being that in pretty general terms, the people who own the teams are more valuable to the existence of the NHL than the people who play the games are.

That is obviously going to chap the hides of players, who like to think of themselves as indispensable to the NHL.  Broadly speaking without ‘players’ no league could operate, so in general terms they are correct.  Speaking more specifically, however, the question is whether these 600ish hockey players are indispensable to the existence of the NHL, or would the league be able to continue on pretty well with players 650-1250 instead.

As an aside, since I find Bettman personally detestable I hate to see people I admire more defend him.  Which, I suppose, is almost anyone.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 09/21/12 at 04:51 PM ET

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Where is all of the Red and White chatter about how Mr. Illitch really doesn’t want to lock out the players. Sounds like Mr. D is in the Bettman camp all of the way!!! So if he thinks Gary is good at his job and doing the right thing, why so many haters on the Wing forums. Does that mean they hate Devellano too?

Well guys like Gary and I see through that as well as anybody would if they did the amount of interviews we have over the years and we tend to get our backs up. After all we are men too and we’re not going to sit there and allow some guy to make us look like fools on national television.”

 

Posted by timbits on 09/21/12 at 08:41 PM ET

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Sounds like Mr. D is in the Bettman camp all of the way!!!

Is anyone surprised?  When has this guy ever opened his mouth and not come off as a complete dickbag?

Posted by Garth on 09/21/12 at 11:40 PM ET

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The owners can basically be viewed as the Ranch, and the players, and me included, are the cattle. The owners own the Ranch and allow the players to eat there. That’s the way its always been and that the way it will be forever. And the owners simply aren’t going to let a union push them around. It’s not going to happen.

Wait. What? It’s the 1950’s all over again. What a huge Douchenozzle, Jagoff!

After having read that I have more respect than ever for anyone that stays with the Wings, and, have a good idea why it’s not “The Destination” anymore.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!! In’13?

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 09/22/12 at 06:12 PM ET

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I have to admit to a mistake. I missed the part where Jimmy D referred to himself as cattle too.
This statement will cause problems for Bettman and the owners.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!! In’13?

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 09/22/12 at 08:43 PM ET

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