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Pending Trade- Columbus Trades Carter To LA For Johnson And Pick

via Bob McKenzie tweet,

Jeff Carter has been traded to LAK for Jack Johnson and 1st round pick. Pending a medical tomorrow.

via Aaron Portzline tweet,

Deal will be made official when #CBJ GM Scott Howson in roughly 45 minutes.

added 8:51pm,

LOS ANGELES – The Los Angeles Kings have acquired forward Jeff Carter from the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for defenseman Jack Johnson and a conditional first round draft selection in either the 2012 or 2013 NHL Entry Draft, Kings President/General Manager Dean Lombardi announced today.  Today’s trade is contingent on both players passing physicals

“Jeff is a proven goal scorer in our league.  He brings goal-scoring abilities, speed and at his age he is entering the prime of his career.  We also like his versatility as he can play both center and wing,” said Lombardi.  “We also want to wish Jack Johnson the best going forward.”

added 9:02pm,

COLUMBUS, OHIO – The Columbus Blue Jackets have acquired defenseman Jack Johnson and a first round pick in either the 2012 or 2013 Entry Draft from the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for center Jeff Carter, club Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Scott Howson announced this evening. The deal is subject to the completion of player physicals.

“Jack is a talented young defenseman who will strengthen our defense corps and we are very excited to add him to our organization,” said Howson. “We are committed to re-shaping our club and moving forward. Adding a player like Jack and a first round pick are important parts of that process.”

 

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Boy that is Underwhelming for what they traded to get Carter

Posted by Evilpens on 02/23/12 at 10:40 PM ET

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columbus comes away with a steal for sure. 
#1 they unload a crazy contract
#2 they get rid of a guy who never wanted to be there
#3 they get a real solid d-man who will be a star very soon.
#4 they get a 1st round pick that will most likely be pretty high.

excellent job CP.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 02/23/12 at 10:41 PM ET

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LOL, I can’t believe they gave up that much to acquire Carter.  Columbus was freaking out with his production considering his salary/term.  The fact that they actually got a really good defenceman as well as a 1st rd pick for him is mindboggling.  His trade value should have been extremely low at the time.  Goes to show what a panicking GM will do. 

That said, Carter does have a reasonably good chance for success in playing with LA.  Him and Richards are best friends, and they have shown chemistry in the past.

Posted by hugh on 02/23/12 at 10:46 PM ET

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Jack Johnson is a Train wreck in his own zone

Posted by Evilpens on 02/23/12 at 10:50 PM ET

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I disagree, GtoL.

On the surface it seems relatively balanced to me.  Not bad for CBJ, that’s for sure, as Carter wasn’t happy.  Carter’s contract is crazy in length (definitely Garth Snow endorsed), but not a crazy cap hit so he can fit in LA without unnecessary sacrifice. 

JJ is a good player, a solid citizen, and has a good contract but he makes a lot of mistakes.  Positioning, passing, those are very much in question every time the pressure is on.  I very much doubt he’s going to be a superstar.

Posted by shazam88 from SoCal on 02/23/12 at 10:52 PM ET

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LOL, I can’t believe they gave up that much to acquire Carter.  Columbus was freaking out with his production considering his salary/term.

i know.  11 years!  wow… i was begining to think that philly was stuck with him, then i thought columbus was stuck with him… now LA.  I guess it goes to show you there is always at least 1 crazy GM out there.  I mean, someone even took Gomez off of the Rangers hands.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 02/23/12 at 10:54 PM ET

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Geez, Carter for Johnson straight up would’ve been a decent deal. Nicely done BJs

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 02/23/12 at 10:55 PM ET

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Not bad for CBJ, that’s for sure, as Carter wasn’t happy.

well it remains to be seen i guess.  carter is for sure a good player, and i would take him on the pens any day…. if not for the contract.  the contract is what i thought would keep any sane gm away from him.  oh well, good for him.  every report out there was saying he wasn’t happy… which is not good for anyone.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 02/23/12 at 10:56 PM ET

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well it remains to be seen i guess.  carter is for sure a good player, and i would take him on the pens any day…. if not for the contract.  the contract is what i thought would keep any sane gm away from him.  oh well, good for him.  every report out there was saying he wasn’t happy… which is not good for anyone.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 02/23/12 at 08:56 PM ET

A gamble for sure by two GMs that are feeling the heat. Howson did ok for his constituents, and may ultimately do excellent if he drafts well and JJ stay healthy. 

It remains to be seen wrt Lombardi and the Kings. A lot of players have underachieved in LA, but there was an unquestioned need for more offense. Voynov will certainly be called up from Manchester and he should be quite capable of filling JJ’s shoes on that second pairing.

As for the zillion year contract, well, Lombardi doesn’t really care I imagine, as his fate will be sealed much sooner.  That said, who knows what sort of amnesty clause we may see under the next CBA.

Posted by shazam88 from SoCal on 02/23/12 at 11:14 PM ET

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Poor Jack, getting stuck in OSU territory for the next few years smile

Posted by RyanVM on 02/23/12 at 11:26 PM ET

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Jack Johnson is a Train wreck in his own zone

Posted by Evilpens on 02/23/12 at 08:50 PM ET

According to you, who isn’t?

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 02/23/12 at 11:29 PM ET

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UMMM Flash do you EVEN watch anyone other than the Pens ?

Posted by Evilpens on 02/23/12 at 11:39 PM ET

Flashtastick56's avatar

UMMM Flash do you EVEN watch anyone other than the Pens ?

Posted by Evilpens on 02/23/12 at 09:39 PM ET

I do.  “Train wreck” is a pretty harsh term.  I figure that, if they’re playing in the NHL, they aren’t a “train wreck” in any part of their game.  You complain that the word “hate” is thrown around a lot…you’ve used “train wreck” in just about everything you’ve posted the past couple of weeks.  Pretty dramatic, don’t you think?

Also, never said Johnson didn’t have issues.  I was just commenting on the “train wreck” part.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 02/23/12 at 11:51 PM ET

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I would fire Lombardi on the spot. You reunite Richards with his butt buddy Carter, that DIDN’T work in Philly. You give up defense and a first rounder. This is a disasterous trade. Good on CBJ. Jack Johnson was a definitely a work in progress, but he was improving. Carter is a dead end. Lombardi is incapable of judging talent and has a fine nose for has beens!!!

Posted by timbits on 02/24/12 at 12:31 AM ET

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^^ Well obviously none of us are in position to be firing GMs or whatnot, so I guess hyperbole and ad hominems will have to provide sufficient amusement for now.  Adding the 1st rounder strikes me as a bit more than necessary, imo.  A 2nd round pick seems more like it, frankly. 

I’m also going to go out on a limb and suggest that Richards and Carter are mature enough not to go on and endless bender.  I have a feeling that things became very overblown by the media, and that Mr Chris Pronger somehow played a role in the Philly dynamics.  Could be wrong, of course. Ultimately though, losing JJ isn’t going to be that painful from a defensive perspective; Voynov is a very capable defender with better skating skills and a faster release on his shot that Johnson.

That said, EvilPens is way over the top as usual. Johnson is far from a train wreck; he’s just not a top 2 defender, which may be what is expected of him in Columbus.

Posted by shazam88 from SoCal on 02/24/12 at 12:57 AM ET

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columbus comes away with a steal for sure

Personally, I think Couturier and Voracek would be a little sweeter to have than Johnson.  Can’t hurt to try having a top pair though.  Poor Nash.  He goes from having someone to play with, to thinking he’ll chase a cup, to, “oh….this again.”

Anyway, I’m sure the party boys will have some good nights, but I sure do hope LA continues the tailspin.

Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 02/24/12 at 01:40 AM ET

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You give up defense and a first rounder. This is a disasterous trade.

Yeah, God knows that the team with the third best goals-against and the league-worst goals-for couldn’t afford to give up some defense in order to get a 30-40 goal scorer.

I mean why would they want to get more offense?  Why would they want to reunite a duo that made it to the Stanley Cup Finals and could’ve won if they had some goaltending?  They should’ve been happy with what they had.  After all, they score a whole two goals a game!

Posted by Garth on 02/24/12 at 01:57 AM ET

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http://hockeyanalysis.com/2012/02/23/just-how-bad-is-jack-johnson/

Kind of interesting, though I’m not a huge stats fan, even when it advances my argument.

Posted by shazam88 from SoCal on 02/24/12 at 03:57 AM ET

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http://kings.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474594 

Slava Voynov is why the Kings could afford to trade JJ

Voynov will be better than JJ

Posted by Evilpens on 02/24/12 at 10:06 AM ET

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I have to say, I’m in agreement with EvilPens.

Johnson is incredibly-overrated.  He’s not so good in his own zone—which is a bad thing for a team as poor as the Blue Jackets.  I also fully agree that Voynov made Johnson expendable.

I don’t see a winner in this.  Carter will do nothing to help the Kings (when will they learn you can’t just bring in forwards willy-nilly?), and Johnson can’t help a miserable Jackets team that just got more-miserable by trading away two of their better forwards (with probably more to come).

http://hockeyanalysis.com/2012/02/23/just-how-bad-is-jack-johnson/

Kind of interesting, though I’m not a huge stats fan, even when it advances my argument.

Posted by shazam88 from SoCal on 02/24/12 at 01:57 AM ET

Wow.  That last line of the article sums it all up best I think:  The Blue Jackets basically, ended up trading away Voracek, Couturier, and a 3rd for Jack Johnson and a middling 1st.

If the Kings were getting anyone but Carter back, I’d say they came out ahead.  But God, the kid’s a trainwreck, going to a trainwreck team living and dying by their goalie…

Posted by Primis on 02/24/12 at 10:51 AM ET

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when will they learn you can’t just bring in forwards willy-nilly?

How is bringing in two guys who played together and had success and chemisty together somehow “willy-nilly”?

Posted by Garth on 02/24/12 at 11:03 AM ET

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Because Garth the reason they are now ex-Flyers is because they drank & partied too much & now they are back together in L.A> king of the party towns

Posted by Evilpens on 02/24/12 at 11:44 AM ET

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Or is it because the Flyers panicked and decided they needed a big dollar goaltender so they had to trade off some of their big dollar players to be able to afford said big dollar, overrated goalie?

Posted by Garth on 02/24/12 at 12:33 PM ET

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could be that too, Holmgren, Clarke & Snider are goofs

But Richards & Carter were known party animals in the Philly area

Posted by Evilpens on 02/24/12 at 01:42 PM ET

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I have no reason to debate that but their numbers, and their numbers together, don’t lie, and it will be interesting to see what Carter does now that he’s presumably in a place he would rather be instead of miserable in Columbus.

I have no love for Richards, Carter or the Kings, but I’ll be checking out what happens with them.  They could propel the team or the teeam could completely implode.

Posted by Garth on 02/24/12 at 02:34 PM ET

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