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from Kevin Allen of USA TODAY,

“He’s a wonder of the world,” Dallas Stars right wing Brenden Morrow said. “I don’t know why he’s as successful as he is, because he doesn’t overpower people. But somehow he always manages to get done what he needs to get done.”

That’s the simplest explanation for why Lidstrom, who will turn 42 during next spring’s playoffs, has a chance to win his eighth Norris Trophy to tie Hall of Famer Bobby Orr’s thought-to-be-safe NHL record.

“He’s been so good for so long, maybe they will rename it the Lidstrom Trophy instead of the Norris now,” Colorado Avalanche defenseman Erik Johnson said.

The most remarkable aspect of Lidstrom’s collection of Norris trophies is that he didn’t win his first one until he was 31. Since then, he has won seven of the last 10. His seventh Norris tied him with Hall of Famer Doug Harvey for second on the all-time list.

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The most remarkable aspect of Lidstrom’s collection of Norris trophies is that he didn’t win his first one until he was 31.

Could you imagine if he started winning them at 25?  We might be talking about him going for his tenth or eleventh by now.

Posted by BuzzFledderjohn on 10/07/11 at 11:29 AM ET

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Coach Mike Babcock reduced Lidstrom’s ice time this past season (to an average of 23 minutes, 28 seconds a game) in the name of keeping Lidstrom fresher for the playoffs. When Lidstrom talked to coaches and general manager Ken Holland after the season, he said he thought he could handle more playing time.

“Nick is used to going to the bench, getting 45 seconds of rest and being ready to go out there again,” said Holland, who seemed supportive of Lidstrom’s request.

That right there is surprising and contrary to everything we’ve heard up to this point. But if the man can handle it, and I’m sure he can, then why wouldn’t you put him on the ice more?

Damn, it’s gonna suck when he’s gone.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 10/07/11 at 11:35 AM ET

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Unless Nick puts up 70 points and is a plus 20, there’s no way they’ll give him an 8th Norris. Sad really.

Damn, it’s gonna suck when he’s gone.

Way to ruin a Friday.

Posted by mrfluffy from the phone, calling Detroit, telling them it's on 10/07/11 at 01:20 PM ET

Chris in Hockey Hell's avatar

He should already have at least 8.

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 10/07/11 at 01:27 PM ET

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Unless Nick puts up 70 points and is a plus 20, there’s no way they’ll give him an 8th Norris. Sad really.

This is the sad-but-true part.  There was more than enough grumbling this offseason about how the writers gave him #7 thinking it would be his swan song.

If that’s true (and I believe there’s a decent amount of truth to it in general), then they’re not going to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to this year’s voting.  If there’s even half as much debate about the trophy next season as their was last season, then Lidstrom will be on the outside looking in.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/07/11 at 02:01 PM ET

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I couldn’t make a play. I was like, ‘Wow.’

I’ll bet nearly every forward and defenseman who’s played against Nick has said that to himself at some point during a game.

Winning seven Norris trophies since he turned 31 is remarkable, but the thing that always impresses me is how few games he’s missed throughout his career. I think it’s something like 30 or so. And probably a third of those were games where he was rested just before the playoffs.

There’s only one way a guy can achieve something like that in a league where players routinely take runs at defensemen.

“I chased him around for the first eight years of my career and couldn’t catch him,” Morrow said. “You can’t get a good hit on him.”

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 10/07/11 at 02:22 PM ET

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Nobody wants anyone to tie with Bobby Orr.
Everyone is tired of Shea Weber not getting his supposed due.

These two reasons alone will stop Lidstrom from getting his 8th. Then there is the residual effects of those who were unhappy when he got it last year after posting a -2 and playing less ice time.

My guess is he’s got about 5% of claiming an 8th. And he’d have to have a seriously solid season while Weber/Doughty/Keith/Yandle/Letang/Chara all slip some.

I hope he wins but I doubt he will, and I also kind of doubt he’ll have the stats to deserve it, mainly due to a slightly reduced role as he helps Detroit transition to life after Lidstrom. But whatever the stats, he is still the best defenseman in the league and has been for most of his career.

Posted by awould on 10/07/11 at 03:39 PM ET

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agreed, the powers that be in the NHL will never let Lids get the tie.

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 10/07/11 at 05:13 PM ET

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