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Zdeno Chara with an instigator penalty along with additional minutes.

This all took place with less than a second to go in the game tonight.

Rule states an automatic suspension for instigator within the last five minutes of the 3rd period, but NHL can review and make the final decision.

added 11:59pm, via Joe McDonald of ESPN Boston,

“I think if you do something like that you risk, and it’s a serious risk, of an instigator,” said Ruff. “You come in and start throwing punches, I think [the league] needs to take a hard look. Anything in the last five minutes is stupid to do. I like the fact that we had one guy grabbing [Chara] by the knees, one guy grabbing him around the waist and another guy grabbing him around the neck and the big man went down.”

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No way Chara’s suspended. Boston’s gotten away with murder all series when it comes to the officiating, and I don’t expect Campbell to be any different.  He’ll point to some BS excuse to let Chara off the hook, even though the rule is fairly clear.  If this were someone like Kaleta or Boychuk maybe they sit, but no way Campbell’s got the cajones to sit the Boston captain before a potential series clinching game at home no matter how much he deserves it.

Posted by Dan from Pittsburgh, PA on 04/24/10 at 01:23 AM ET

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Hah! Just like Malkin’s automatic suspension for the instigator in the SCF.

The “Rules” state automatic suspension, except when Colin Campbell determines that the rules don’t apply.

Posted by jwad on 04/24/10 at 01:33 AM ET

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As Bob McKenzie stated, it’s not likely to be a suspension due to the fact that Gaustad initiated the proceedings with the slash.

Posted by @DaveDavisHockey from Buffalo, NY on 04/24/10 at 01:36 AM ET

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The instigator penalty is a joke. It’s almost never called, and in the rare exception that they do call it, the league washes it out.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 04/24/10 at 02:03 AM ET

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Well, if you want to get into conspiracy theories, then it says here that Zdeno Chara *is* suspended just so the Buffalo Sabres come back in the series so the NHL- and NBC- gets Sidney Crosby vs. Ryan Miller again.

-DG

Posted by DG from Alliston, ON on 04/24/10 at 02:07 AM ET

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DG, I think the NHL and NBC are happy no matter who they get in round 2.  If Buffalo wins, it’s Crosby versus Miller.  If Boston wins, you’ve got Savard likely coming back for a grudge match against the team that knocked him out for half a season.  Obviously Savard isn’t as high-profile as Miller, but it does add an interesting sub-plot to the match-up.  Pittsburgh probably doesn’t care who they get, but would probably prefer Boston so that the Pens would get home ice for the series.

Posted by Dan from Pittsburgh, PA on 04/24/10 at 02:12 AM ET

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oh and the GODS SMILE ON THE WINGS

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/24/10 at 02:13 AM ET

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whoops, wrong thread LOL

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/24/10 at 02:13 AM ET

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Both teams have been told Chara will not be suspended.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/24/10 at 02:57 AM ET

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Of course he won’t be suspended.  Here is the official rule:

47.22 Fines and Suspensions – Instigator in Final Five Minutes of Regulation Time (or Anytime in Overtime) - A player or goalkeeper who is deemed to be the instigator of an altercation in the final five (5) minutes of regulation time or at anytime in overtime, shall automatically be suspended for one game. The Director of Hockey Operations will review every such incident and may rescind the suspension based on a number of criteria. The criteria for the review shall include, but not limited to, the score, previous incidents, etc. The length of suspension will double for each subsequent offense. This suspension shall be served in addition to any other automatic suspensions a player may incur for an accumulation of three or more instigator penalties.

I guess the consideration of whether the player in question is a star or a mucker is part of the “etc.”  Don’t see why the fact that Chara was tapped on the ankles prior to his instigating the fight should be relevant; it’s only a hockey play, after all, according to Claude.

Posted by Dan from PIttsburgh, PA on 04/24/10 at 03:11 AM ET

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DG, I think the NHL and NBC are happy no matter who they get in round 2.  If Buffalo wins, it’s Crosby versus Miller.  If Boston wins, you’ve got Savard likely coming back for a grudge match against the team that knocked him out for half a season.  Obviously Savard isn’t as high-profile as Miller, but it does add an interesting sub-plot to the match-up.  Pittsburgh probably doesn’t care who they get, but would probably prefer Boston so that the Pens would get home ice for the series.

First of all, allow me to say I don’t believe there’s any actual conspiracies going around. However, you can’t deny that a rematch of the gold medal game protagonists- Crosby and Miller- is more salivating than a rematch of Matt Cooke vs. Marc Savard, simply because more people took in the gold medal game than the infamous Pittsburgh Penguins-Boston Bruins game. Us as hockey fans know Cooke vs. Savard, but the general public knows Crosby vs. Miller. Ergo, I think NBC would rather have that because it’s an easier sell to the general public.

Of course, this all could go for naught if Montreal and Ottawa complete their comebacks…and the loss of the Penguins and the Washington Capitals is something NBC definitely wouldn’t want to see.

-DG

Posted by DG from Alliston, ON on 04/24/10 at 03:42 AM ET

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DG, you’re probably right.  Crosby and Miller would be more attractive to the NHL layperson, but I don’t think NBC would be picking up too many casual fans even with that match-up.  I agree that losing Washington and/or Pittsburgh would definitely not be desirable though.

Posted by Dan from Pittsburgh, PA on 04/24/10 at 03:46 AM ET

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If anything Gaustad should have gotten an instigator for the unnecessary slash that got Chara all up in arms in the first place.

Posted by Forlorn in VA on 04/24/10 at 05:45 AM ET

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“you’ve got Savard likely coming back for a grudge match against the team that knocked him out for half a season”

Hardly it was 17 games left to play, March 7 2010


“DG, I think the NHL and NBC are happy no matter who they get in round 2.  If Buffalo wins, it’s Crosby versus Miller.  If Boston wins, you’ve got Savard likely coming back for a grudge match against the team that knocked him out for half a season.  Obviously Savard isn’t as high-profile as Miller, but it does add an interesting sub-plot to the match-up.  Pittsburgh probably doesn’t care who they get, but would probably prefer Boston so that the Pens would get home ice for the series.”

Posted by Dan from Pittsburgh, PA on 04/24/10 at 12:12 AM ET

I don’t think it matters to any of the players, Savard’s deal is done (plus it’s playoffs no teams and players are going to go out of the way to do anything to opposing players)

As far as the home ice for the Pens if we get there, screw it, we’re a better underdog team, and have so far this playoffs played like arse at home.  Bus rides to Buffalo!!

Gotta win this series first….

Posted by Trevor from City of Champions on 04/24/10 at 09:36 AM ET

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Posted by jwad on 04/23/10 at 11:33 PM ET

The instigator penalty is conditional

Posted by Dan from Pittsburgh, PA on 04/23/10 at 11:23 PM ET

You’d have to REALLY f-up bad to get a role player suspended, let alone a “big name” player.  Having nothing to do with the Bruins or Chara “getting calls”

Believe me, I HATE Chara almost as much as I hate Pronger, but I haven’t seen the Bruins and/or Chara doing anything that other players are getting whistled for.
That’s just the way it is, it’s playoffs, historically there are less calls made the deeper into the playoffs you go.

Posted by Trevor from City of Champions on 04/24/10 at 09:54 AM ET

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Chara was antagonized before he “instigated” moreso than Malkin last year, he doesn’t deserve the suspension he’s not going to get.

The precedent set last year is that if the player’s not a goon, has no history of doing stuff like this, he’s not going to get suspended.  It’s the way the rule is written that makes Campbell look like a jagoff.  If the rule states that the league will look to suspend players who instigate fights in the last minutes, but that nothing is automatic, it doesn’t look so much like they’re starf*cking when they choose to enforce it in a way that it was basically meant for.

The whole reason they have that rule is to keep coaches from putting out their skill-less brutes at the end of a game that’s out of hand to hurt other players and help their team in a series.  What Malkin did last year and what Chara did last night don’t fit that criteria.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 04/24/10 at 10:43 AM ET

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There have been other incidents in this series (by both teams) worth more debate about suspensions than this one.

Posted by @DaveDavisHockey from Buffalo, NY on 04/24/10 at 11:09 AM ET

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The right call was mad no suspension for Chara.

Posted by goon from Grand Forks, ND on 04/24/10 at 12:02 PM ET

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TORONTO (April 24, 2010) – The National Hockey League announced today that the instigator penalty assessed to Boston Bruins’ defenseman Zdeno Chara at the conclusion of last night’s game has been rescinded.

        At the end of the third period, Chara was assessed a minor penalty for instigating, a major for fighting and a game misconduct under Rule 47.12, resulting in an automatic one game suspension, pending review.

        The League has reviewed the incident and rescinded the automatic suspension under Rule 47.22, which states: “the suspension shall be served unless, upon review of the incident, the Director of Hockey Operations, at his discretion, deems the incident is not related to the score, previous incidents in the game or prior games, retaliatory in nature, ‘message sending,’ etc.”

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 04/24/10 at 01:48 PM ET

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Well, of course the rulebook says he should be suspended, but it’s the playoffs, Chara’s a star player… so there’s recent precedent that shows they’ll ignore their own rulebook…

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 04/24/10 at 01:48 PM ET

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“... I like the fact that we had one guy grabbing [Chara] by the knees, one guy grabbing him around the waist and another guy grabbing him around the neck and the big man went down.”

Nice one, Ruff!

...they’ll ignore their own rulebook…

When the rulebook states that the automatic suspension depends on review, they’re not ignoring the rulebook.

They’re repsonsible for extremely poor wording of the rule, but the ruling is within the rules. Giving the impression that something is made up on the fly seems disingenuous at best.

Posted by Moq from Denmark on 04/24/10 at 02:02 PM ET

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