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added 11:35am,

from Elliotte Friedman of CBC,

Still waiting for official NHLPA reaction from Saturday's marathon meetings between Bill Daly and Steve Fehr, but here are a couple thoughts on what's probably going on:

When it comes to lawyers, you must be careful about using the word "offers." It's possible no official offers were presented. But, what these two often do is say, "If we proposed this, what would your side think?" or something along that line. So, what you can expect is that Daly and Steve Fehr went through a lot of that, trying to see how far their adversary is willing to go and what really are the cornerstone issues here. 

It's the next meeting that's going to be critical.

Why? As I checked Sunday morning, there weren't a lot of details available (if any) to those who were outside the meeting. Over the next 24-48 hours, both the NHL and NHLPA are going to digest what happened and send updates to their constituents. That will determine the true tone of where we are and whether any real traction was made. Once the players and governors get their memos and begin to react, strategy for the next get-together will be shaped. 


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i hope no details get released from the meeting. We dont need to get our hopes up just to get dashed to bits as usual. Let it be a nice surprise when something is actually worth announcing for a change.

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 11/04/12 at 03:10 PM ET


Agreed, NIVO.  I mean, I want to hear about positives (THREE! according to McKenzie), but it’s time these guys stop posturing for the media/fans, realize that isn’t helping AT ALL, and just take care of business.  It’s the kind of situation where it feels from the outside that if they just sat down for some hard negotiating without all the b.s., things could be solved pretty quickly.

Posted by nosferatu from Albany, NY on 11/04/12 at 04:33 PM ET


but it’s time these guys stop posturing for the media/fans, realize that isn’t helping AT ALL,

If someone’s opinion is that another lockout will ‘kill the game’ and ‘fans will flee in droves’, then it’s important for the NHL and NHLPA to continue to posture as much as possible to give those fans would will allegedly flee and kill the game reason to not do so.

If someone’s opinion is that none of this stuff ultimately matters and all the fans will be back in fairly short order regardless of the term of the lockout or the reasons it is happening, then no.  The public sniping and positioning doesn’t matter.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 11/04/12 at 04:55 PM ET


I think if I am reading Friedman’s post correctly, it looks like Fehr (like Daly) is going back to his constituency before he makes any comments pro or con about what was discussed over the weekend.

He keeps stating he works for the players and he can’t just comment immediately without briefing the players. As much of a cynic as I can be, this looks like a positive step since it looks like there may actually be something to discuss, which also means there just might be movement on one or both sides as well.

In all probability, as Freidman stated, within the next 48 hours we will probably hear from the players side (since they don’t have to worry about fines) whether there is movement or not. Not in thos terms, but if the players state that hate Bettman’s guts even more, the negotiation was not favorable. IF they said that they need to negotiate more then it may be fair to say that Fehr has indicated there is a deal to be made.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 11/05/12 at 01:57 PM ET

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