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Looks Like Nabokov Will Be Islanders Property Next Season

via Katie Strang of Isles Files (paid sub.) at Newsday,

The Islanders will “toll” the contract of Russian goaltender Evgeni Nabokov, Newsday has learned.

The team has the option to “toll” Nabokov’s one-year $570,000 contract, essentially extending it until next season, because the 35-year-old veteran refused to report when claimed on re-entry waivers by the Islanders back in January.

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Unless Snow plans on trading him next season, I fail to see the point in this move since Nabokov made it clear he has no interest in playing for the Islanders.

Posted by Bosephus from Behind enemy lines, Denver, CO on 04/22/11 at 06:11 PM ET

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Gonna be a real nuisance of a soap opera come late September when the Isles’ training camp starts.  Still makes no sense to me when the Isles have used as much as eight keepers at one time with the recent addition of Al Montoya.

When the Wings played the B’Lose at the Joe, JMac started and was pulled for McCollum, whom I thought looked a little like Nabby.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 04/22/11 at 06:19 PM ET

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I’m hoping Nabby shows up to camp in September.  Then it’s:

Your move, Garth Snow.

And even more fun commences.

Posted by nosferatu from Albany, NY on 04/22/11 at 07:32 PM ET

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This is what Garth Snow wanted from the start.  Since it’s a new season, I’m assuming come next Fall they can trade him w/o having to clear waivers.  Then they get a young player and/or draft picks for free.  Slimy SOB that Snow is.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 04/22/11 at 07:36 PM ET

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Wow, can I change my vote for GM of the Year?

I smell a Stanleycup on L.I. in no time at all. tongue laugh

Posted by Down River Dan on 04/22/11 at 09:01 PM ET

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With as many goaltenders available - including ones younger than Nabokov - I wonder if there is actually going to be much of a trade market. Is it worth it for a single low-round pick to go through all this headache?

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 04/22/11 at 09:04 PM ET

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And the jerk of the year award goes to…Garth Snow!

Posted by Iggy Rules on 04/22/11 at 09:05 PM ET

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This is what Garth Snow wanted from the start.  Since it’s a new season, I’m assuming come next Fall they can trade him w/o having to clear waivers.  Then they get a young player and/or draft picks for free.  Slimy SOB that Snow is.

That’s called smart business sense.  Sounds like sour grapes to me.

By the way, if Snow allowed Nabokov to walk, it would have set a bad precedent, and might have affected the way players dealt with the Islanders in the future.

This was a no brainer.

Posted by RogerNYLA on 04/22/11 at 09:10 PM ET

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It is obvious he plans on moving Nabakov.  I highly doubt that Snow actually wants to see him in an Islander’s uni.  But I love the move.  A.  It ensures that Nabby plays for a pathetic contract.  After pulling that stunt, Snow has swung back.  Good for him.  B.  It ensures that the Islanders get a pick or prospect they otherwise would not have gotten, all for nothing.

So, John W. and Iggy, why so negative on Snow?  Isn’t all this doing squarely on the shoulders of Nabby?  Nabby is the jerk that refused to report.  Nabby is the slimy SOB who failed to honour his contract with St. Petersburg and then with the NHL.

Posted by Unicorn Force from DC (but like everyone here, I'm not a local) on 04/22/11 at 09:18 PM ET

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That’s called smart business sense

No it’s not, it’s bad form.  You just don’t sign a player soley for the purpose of trading him.  It’s akin to signing players on July 1st as if they are going to be on your team, and then trading them before the season starts for draft picks.  It pisses the players and the rest of the teams off.  It’s not how you run a business.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 04/22/11 at 09:30 PM ET

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No it’s not, it’s bad form.  You just don’t sign a player soley for the purpose of trading him.  It’s akin to signing players on July 1st as if they are going to be on your team, and then trading them before the season starts for draft picks.  It pisses the players and the rest of the teams off.  It’s not how you run a business.

In January, when the Islanders claimed Nabokov on waivers, DiPietro was hurt and the Islanders had 2 AHL goalies in net.  Nathan Lawson and Kevin Poulin, then Nathan Lawson got hurt.  The Islanders actually brought up an ECHL goalie as backup.

So, if you were the GM, and you had a chance to add an experienced NHL goalie to the team at that point, would you have done it?

It seems like from what you’ve written, you would have stuck with 2 AHL goalies.
Well, just so you know, a team is better off with an actual experienced NHL goalie then an AHL goalie in net.  The AHL is considered the minor leagues for the NHL and players are there, because they either don’t have enough talent for the NHL, or they’re young and need to work on their game in order to make the NHL.

You can look it up.

Posted by RogerNYLA on 04/22/11 at 09:45 PM ET

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Posted by RogerNYLA on 04/22/11 at 07:45 PM ET

Are you for real?

If the Islanders were so badly in need of a goalie then why didn’t they sign Nabokov in the first place?  He left the KHL on Dec 13 and signed with Detroit on Jan 22.  That’s over a month that the Isles could’ve inked him.  If the Isles were so badly in need of a goalie then why didn’t they actively pursue a goalie rather than waiting for the Red Wings to sign Nabokov?  Seems like they were, at the time, content with having two AHL goalies.

It seems like, from what you’ve written, that you don’t know how free agency works.
Well, just to let you know, most teams actually seek out free agent players and negotiate contracts with their agents in order to bring them into the fold.
Signing free agents yourself instead of trying to cherry pick from other teams is considered good form, because it shows you to be more of an honest businessman, trying to come to AGREEMENTS with a player who wants to play for your team, rather than trying to force a player to play for you when he doesn’t want to.

Posted by Garth on 04/22/11 at 10:35 PM ET

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No it’s not, it’s bad form.

Based on what?  Snow saw an opportunity and took it.  How is that “bad form”?  And aren’t you forgetting that Nabakov is the real issue here?  Isn’t the “bad form” failing to honour one’s contract?

And why wouldn’t you sign a player to trade him, especially if one is rebuilding?  Seems logical and well within the rules, no?  I have no love or hatred for the Islanders, but this seems to be a no-brainer on Snow’s part.  He signed Roloson to a deal and Wisnewski to a deal and then traded them.  I’m guessing Snow knew that if he was out of the hunt, he’d ship them out.  What’s the difference?  That’s what rebuilding teams do. 

Don’t be offended, but it really sounds like sour grapes from a Wings fan who is still upset that Nabakov was poached via re-entry waivers.  I’m not saying you are, but it reads that way.

Posted by Unicorn Force from DC (but like everyone here, I'm not a local) on 04/22/11 at 10:52 PM ET

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Posted by Garth on 04/22/11 at 08:35 PM ET

By the time the Islanders claimed Nobokov their goalie situation had changed considerably. In mid-December, they still had 2 healthy NHL goalies (DiPietro & Roloson). So there way absolutely no need for them to do anything in that regard.
But by mid-January, Roloson no longer was on the team and DiPietro was battling different injuries and all they had left were 2 AHL goalies.

What should he have done differently ? Negotiating a contract with Nabokov in december, when everything was still alright ?

Posted by Teddybear from Sweden on 04/22/11 at 11:08 PM ET

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If the Islanders were so badly in need of a goalie then why didn’t they sign Nabokov in the first place?  He left the KHL on Dec 13 and signed with Detroit on Jan 22.  That’s over a month that the Isles could’ve inked him.  If the Isles were so badly in need of a goalie then why didn’t they actively pursue a goalie rather than waiting for the Red Wings to sign Nabokov?  Seems like they were, at the time, content with having two AHL goalies.

From teddybear:By the time the Islanders claimed Nobokov their goalie situation had changed considerably. In mid-December, they still had 2 healthy NHL goalies (DiPietro & Roloson). So there way absolutely no need for them to do anything in that regard.
But by mid-January, Roloson no longer was on the team and DiPietro was battling different injuries and all they had left were 2 AHL goalies.

Signing free agents yourself instead of trying to cherry pick from other teams is considered good form, because it shows you to be more of an honest businessman, trying to come to AGREEMENTS with a player who wants to play for your team, rather than trying to force a player to play for you when he doesn’t want to.

I don’t know if you’re whining because it was your Red Wings that lost out, or the fact that you’re from the Detroit area.  The auto industry in Detroit hasn’t exactly been an example of competitive management practices, just ask Honda or Toyota.
The idea of management in any profession, is to try and make your company, or in this case, your team better.  You can’t worry that one of your competitors might be hurt by your decision.

I shouldn’t be so harsh on the Wings.  I respect their management, and I’m pretty sure if the Wings were in the Islanders position, that would have done the exact same thing.  As a matter of fact, I’m willing to bet the Red WIngs don’t have any hard feeling and completely understand the Islanders position.

Posted by RogerNYLA on 04/23/11 at 12:20 AM ET

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Roger, with all due respect, you don’t know that Metro Detroit is in fact a pretty damn decent place to live for over four million people, and those kinds of comments tend to merit questions as to whether your team will even have a rink to play in five years from now, or whether they’ll be in Quebec instead.

That’s equally harsh, but that’s the kind of umbrage I take when people knock my birthplace, which does have its problems, and one of the three auto companies that are doing pretty decently for themselves these days after taking far fewer billions than the money we basically agreed to give away to “bail out” Wall Street. My family’s got 100 years’ worth of combined service to Chrysler, and as my dad’s family is a Ford family, my mom drives a 17-year-old Mercury that seems to be holding up pretty well.

I don’t begrudge your team’s right to exist or play in a new barn, I don’t begrudge suggestions that Islanders fans somehow don’t “deserve” a team—that’s BS—and I think that Snow did exactly what he wanted to, which is fine. The Wings, Nabokov and Don Meehan went into the situation understanding that Nabokov may have been plucked off waivers, and he was, so now that he doesn’t want to play for the Islanders, that’s a problem his agent and Snow will have to work out.

It was a smart move by Snow to get a veteran goaltender to help Rick DiPietro and now Al Montoya, and if Nabokov wants to showcase himself to another team so that he can get an undisputed #1 goaltender’s job somewhere, he’ll have to do so by playing for the Islanders. Snow might e crazy, but he’s crazy like a fox in this regard. He had no obligation to help anyone but the New York Islanders, and he’s done so in a big way. If Nabokov wants out and Snow eventually agrees to move him, he can get a pretty solid return on a trade, too, because he can eat cap space and so many of his opponents can’t.

I will tell you how this came up, however, in case Strang didn’t—the only reason that Nabokov’s agent and the Russian Hockey Federation were pushing the Islanders, and pushing them very, very hard, to get Nabokov to play in the World Championships, both prior to and after the conclusion of the Islanders’ season.

The Islanders have only reluctantly agreed to let Nabokov play for Russia after what Sport-Express’s Anderi Kuznetsov reports have been two weeks of negotiations between the Russian Hockey Federation, the IIHF, the NHL and the Islanders about allowing Nabokov to play in the Worlds.

This isn’t just the Islanders thumbing their nose at Nabokov, however—as we all know, given the NHL’s tricky relationship with the KHL, you can be assured that Bill Daly, who Kuznetsov says was involved in the negotiations, encouraged Snow to do what he did because of the KHL’s poachings of NHL players and insistence that all their youngsters are restricted free agents until they’re 29, and as such, they must automatically re-sign with KHL teams.

The KHL now has a draft where they snap up every youngster with a pulse, and they’re now requiring their “drafted players” to play in a two-year-old junior league that’s supposed to develop players for the VHL (the Russian equivalent of the AHL) and KHL. The KHL’s essentially sewn up every junior-aged player in the country, and the next time a Sergei Shirokov or Evgeny Dadonov come over, they’re probably going to sue whatever NHL team drafts and signs a Russian-born prospect for “Ovechkin money” (i.e. $1 million or more) and raise a stink and a half with the IIHF, which supports European hockey interests first and foremost as a matter of principle.

This is all about politics but it’s also about the Islanders, and Snow’s exercising his right to employ a player he had every right to claim for the 2011-2012 season.

Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 04/23/11 at 01:00 AM ET

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Slightly related - I bet Garth Snow has an excellent hockey card collection.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 04/23/11 at 01:08 AM ET

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That’s equally harsh, but that’s the kind of umbrage I take when people knock my birthplace, which does have its problems, and one of the three auto companies that are doing pretty decently for themselves these days after taking far fewer billions than the money we basically agreed to give away to “bail out” Wall Street. My family’s got 100 years’ worth of combined service to Chrysler, and as my dad’s family is a Ford family, my mom drives a 17-year-old Mercury that seems to be holding up pretty well.

I apologize for my remarks in regards to Detroit. I have to admit, I visited Detroit several years ago and had a great time seeing a Tigers game and doing a little partying in Greektown. I think the same sense of pride you have in your birthplace, I have in the NY Islanders.  There’s no question the Islanders haven’t been the pinnacle of sports franchises as of late, and they certainly have done a lot of unconventional things running the team the last few years. 

Having said that, occasionally they do get it right.  The Islanders were in such dire need of a goalie when Di Pietro went down, and then his backup went down (Lawson).  They had 2 AHL goalies in net and had to call up a goalie from their ECHL affiliate.  I was watching their games, thinking the only chance the Isles have, is if they limit shots on goal (yeah right, this is the last place Islanders) and any shots that do get on goal, need to be easy saves.  Basically, what little hope I had, was pretty much extinguished.  So you accept that they’re going to lose, hope Snow finds a NHL goalie soon, and hope that this doesn’t hurt the development of all of the young players on the team.  When Nabokov was put through waivers, Snow did the smart thing and claimed him.  The Islander fans on some of the message boards actually saw some light at the end of the tunnnel.  The Islanders might actually win a few games. Then the backlash. I couldn’t believe the outrage by some of the fans towards the Islanders, mostly from Red Wing fans.  I found it so insulting.  The Red WIngs are clearly loaded, the Islanders had went through a string of games where they hadn’t won in 20 games.  They get a chance to improve, and the overriding opinion was that since the Islanders are terrible, they should have stayed out of it. 

Well, what about “us”, the fans of the Islanders?  Don’t we have the right to see our team improve?  Don’t we have a right to see the team win some games?  You could read into the condescension from some fans, mostly Red Wing fans.  It was almost like they were saying “how dare you”. 

Snow had every right to do what he did.  Contrary to what Wings fans may think, Snow didn’t do it to sabotage their season.  He did it, because his job as GM is to make the Islanders better.  The Islanders needed an NHL goalie. The fact that Nabokov wouldn’t report, is on Nabokov.  He and his agent knew the rules, and knew there was a possibility he could get claimed.  As a matter of fact, as an Islander fan, I was following it pretty closely, and Nabokov’s agent was saying he would report.  Now Nabokov is an asset.  If he reports, that’s fine.  DiPietro is still a question mark and if he’s fine, then the Islanders will trade Nabokov or Montoya and get something in return.  That’s what a good GM would do.

Posted by RogerNYLA on 04/23/11 at 02:58 AM ET

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Posted by RogerNYLA on 04/22/11 at 10:20 PM ET

That’s a terrific argument and t’s wonderful that you showed your true colours.  Why attempt to debate the point when you can just assume (wrongly) that I’m from Detroit and bring in a lowest common denominator *#$%@& opinion of something you know nothing about?

Either way, unless ALL of their goaltenders went down on Jan 21, Garth Snow still could’ve looked for a trading partner to upgrade their goaltending or tried to sign Nabokov or any other goalie rather than letting someone else do the leg work.

It’s pathetic and sad.  As pathetic and sad as having a talentless former goalie now wasting space as your talentless GM?  As pathetic and sad as having a team that it’s one of the biggest markets in the US being completely unable to fill their building on anything resembling a nightly basis?  As pathetic and sad as having a starting goalie who’s made of glass around for 15 years?  As pathetic and sad as having a college radio station being your official radio broadcaster?  As pathetic and sad as having some of the worst management in professional sport taking away a journalist’s press pass because he’s telling the truth about the state of the team?

Well, what about “us”, the fans of the Islanders?  Don’t we have the right to see our team improve?  Don’t we have a right to see the team win some games?  You could read into the condescension from some fans, mostly Red Wing fans.  It was almost like they were saying “how dare you”.

Awwww, poor baby, want a tissue?

Want to know why Red Wings fans were pissed?  It might have been because we had two fuching AHL goalies donning the Red Wings jerseys while our two NHL goalies were injured.

Sound familiar?

Guess what Ken Holland did?  He went out and signed a fuching goalie.  He did the leg work.  He negotiated with Nabokov’s agent and SIGNED HIM TO A CONTRACT.

What did Snow do?  Fuching nothing.  He stood around with his thumb up his ass and waited for Holland to do the work then claimed a goalie who didn’t want to play for the shitty Islanders and tried to force him to play for the Islanders.

Why?  To win games?  Right.  He wanted to have trade bait, to try and get someone to give up a draft pick for him.

Garth Snow is pathetic.  The Islanders are pathetic and you’re pathetic for trying to justify such shitty behaviour.

It’ll be great to see Nabokov lace them up for Russia, do well and then retire, letting Garth Snow twist in the wind like the garbage that he is.

Posted by Garth on 04/24/11 at 04:43 AM ET

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That’s a terrific argument and t’s wonderful that you showed your true colours.  Why attempt to debate the point when you can just assume (wrongly) that I’m from Detroit and bring in a lowest common denominator *#$%@& opinion of something you know nothing about?

Either way, unless ALL of their goaltenders went down on Jan 21, Garth Snow still could’ve looked for a trading partner to upgrade their goaltending or tried to sign Nabokov or any other goalie rather than letting someone else do the leg work.

It’s pathetic and sad.  As pathetic and sad as having a talentless former goalie now wasting space as your talentless GM?  As pathetic and sad as having a team that it’s one of the biggest markets in the US being completely unable to fill their building on anything resembling a nightly basis?  As pathetic and sad as having a starting goalie who’s made of glass around for 15 years?  As pathetic and sad as having a college radio station being your official radio broadcaster?  As pathetic and sad as having some of the worst management in professional sport taking away a journalist’s press pass because he’s telling the truth about the state of the team?

Well, what about “us”, the fans of the Islanders?  Don’t we have the right to see our team improve?  Don’t we have a right to see the team win some games?  You could read into the condescension from some fans, mostly Red Wing fans.  It was almost like they were saying “how dare you”.

Awwww, poor baby, want a tissue?

Want to know why Red Wings fans were pissed?  It might have been because we had two fuching AHL goalies donning the Red Wings jerseys while our two NHL goalies were injured.

Sound familiar?

Guess what Ken Holland did?  He went out and signed a fuching goalie.  He did the leg work.  He negotiated with Nabokov’s agent and SIGNED HIM TO A CONTRACT.

What did Snow do?  Fuching nothing.  He stood around with his thumb up his ass and waited for Holland to do the work then claimed a goalie who didn’t want to play for the shitty Islanders and tried to force him to play for the Islanders.

Why?  To win games?  Right.  He wanted to have trade bait, to try and get someone to give up a draft pick for him.

Garth Snow is pathetic.  The Islanders are pathetic and you’re pathetic for trying to justify such shitty behaviour.

It’ll be great to see Nabokov lace them up for Russia, do well and then retire, letting Garth Snow twist in the wind like the garbage that he is.

Posted by Garth on 04/24/11 at 02:43 AM ET

I’m sorry little fella, I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings.  LOL

Posted by RogerNYLA on 04/24/11 at 05:48 AM ET

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