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Koivu Hits, Setoguchi Scores

This hit on Niklas Kronwall by Mikko Koivu lead to the Wild overtime goal by Devin Setoguchi last night.

Some people were calling for an interference call, what do you think?

Kronwall left the ice dazed and the Wings will provide and update on him sometime today.

added 4:03am, The Wild TV broadcast can be viewed below…

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From The Hockey Wastelands - By the way, Kerry Fraser, just OWNED you bitch.

Posted by Ouch from Windsor on 11/02/11 at 02:54 PM ET

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i find Fraser’s long winded explanation totally confusing.

he very nicely lays out why this play perhaps shouldn’t be an interference call… fine. i’ll accept that. Kronwall made a stick check which initiated the ‘battle’ and Koivu made a legal ATTEMPT at a hit.

but then Fraser says “...no hit to the head but a back shoulder check designed to create space or eliminate a willing combatant.”

huh? i’ve seen it probably 10 times from every angle, fast and slow. while interference may be a bit murky, what’s indisputable is that he hits him DIRECTLY in the head. one of the questions posed to Fraser actually addresses this head contact and in his several paragraph explanation he has one line saying that there was “no hit to the head”. are we talking about the same play? the fact that the hit was directly to the head is just about the ONLY part of the play that everyone should be able to agree on. whether it was “intentional” or not is another story… but it’s also irrelevant by the new headshot standard. Unless Kronwall lowers his head or makes some other sudden movement at the last second, the onus is on Koivu to miss the head, no matter if the battle itself is legal or not.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 11/02/11 at 02:59 PM ET


From The Hockey Wastelands - yes one hour and fourteen minutes. Why? Because I have a life outside of this. You obviously do not.

Loving your comebacks though. please continue to embarrass yourself.

Posted by Ouch from Windsor on 11/02/11 at 01:50 PM ET

No you dont, you just trolled over to another blog. I read Malik’s blog too moron. Oh, and I still haven’t heard a single argument from YOU that makes sense and I would hardly consider Kerry Frasier the voice of reason in hockey. His explanation sounds like it was prepared for him by a lawyer….

Posted by From The Hockey Wastelands from Cleveland on 11/02/11 at 03:01 PM ET

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Kerry Fraser is trying to bring Leafs and Wings fans together in mutual hatred.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/02/11 at 03:11 PM ET

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“It was a good play on his part,” Kronwall said. “He caught me off guard. It ended up costing us the game, so obviously I have to be a little bit more aware out there.”

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 11/02/11 at 03:33 PM ET

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so obviously I have to be a little bit more aware out there.

Herm nice post.

I like Kronwall’s comment a lot.  No bs complaining (ie. canucks per don cherry), he manned up, said he got outplayed, and moved on and learned from it.

Posted by Zaze on 11/02/11 at 03:38 PM ET


And with that Kronwalled himself silences a entire crybaby fan base.

Posted by Ouch from Windsor on 11/02/11 at 03:43 PM ET

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Posted by Ouch from Windsor on 11/02/11 at 02:43 PM ET

Don’t give him too much credit, you had a big part in that too, champ!

Posted by Zaze on 11/02/11 at 03:51 PM ET


Ah .... thanks Zaze.

Posted by Ouch from Windsor on 11/02/11 at 03:54 PM ET

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yet another quality post there Ouch. you really know how to carry on a good hockey discussion. imagine if you actually knew about the game and the players and the rules?

while I definitely respect Kronner’s opinion and his attitude, his teammate and captain Nick Lidstrom said today that there should have been a call made… i’m guessing you’d classify Lidstrom as a crybaby with no integrity?

please say ‘yes’ so fans of every team can get a good laugh at your naivety and adolescent need for meaningless confrontation (or is that already happening?)

i’m guessing i’m the sucker here for even responding to you and pretending like you’re on this site for anything resembling a hockey discussion.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 11/02/11 at 03:55 PM ET


perfection - sucker!

Posted by Ouch from Windsor on 11/02/11 at 04:09 PM ET

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Oucn, not sure why you came in to one of my blog posts, but I would suggest you stop with what you are trying to do and keep this on topic.

I will not tolerate what you are doing.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 11/02/11 at 04:11 PM ET


Posted by Ouch from Windsor on 11/02/11 at 03:09 PM ET

Hmm, interesting that you mocked From The Hockey Wastelands for not having a life…

Posted by Garth on 11/02/11 at 04:23 PM ET

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The only part of that hit that MAY be deemed illegal is that Koivu left his feet, but one could argue that his momentum elevated him off the ground.  But also, c’mon fellow Wings fans, how could the majority of you not even comment on Howard holding Setoguchi’s stick “accidentally”?

Lastly, this play is taking the attention away from the fact that the Wings are playing like utter shit lately.  They look like they don’t even want to be out there.  I’ll start paying attention to them a bit more seriously when they start acting like they actually want to be out there.

Posted by scotts0 from New York on 11/02/11 at 06:25 PM ET

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When the Wings came out with that very strong first seven minutes last night, the overall feeling eventually became not ‘will they keep this up?’, but rather ‘how will they lose the momentum tonight?’

It’s just where this teams is at this point. Timing-wise, they’re okay. It’s early, and they have five games at home. I’d be very surprised if they didn’t go 5-0.

As far as officiating, the Wings got the short end last night (not the Koivu hit, that was a great hockey play); but that’s okay, because their opponent will get the short end other nights, too. It all evens out in the end.

A little panic in early-November is not a bad thing.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie, MI on 11/02/11 at 07:01 PM ET


It was one of the most amazing hits I have seen in a long time. How he could explode into Kronwall like that with his back is truly a spectacle.

Posted by timbits on 11/02/11 at 10:40 PM ET

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