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It’s Bad In Buffalo

from Damien Cox of the Toronto Star,

February 18, 2011, was supposed to be the day that the world changed for the Buffalo Sabres.

That was the day Terry Pegula, an owner with buckets of cash who loves hockey, officially assumed control of the team that the Knox Brothers founded.

No more poverty. No more bankruptcy. No more getting by on the cheap. No more being the feeder squad for the rich boys.

All good.

Instead, it’s pretty much been all bad. The team is off to the worst start in franchise history and has become a yet another case study on how money doesn’t always cure all in pro sports.

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on how money doesn’t always cure all in pro sports

is this the beginnings of the movement to abolish the salary cap (please)?

Posted by SnLO from the sub great-white north on 10/25/13 at 08:37 AM ET

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Buffalo News columnist Bucky Gleason suggested on Thursday it’s time for fans to start staying away if they want change.

When fans stay away from a bad team in the north they are called smart to tell ownership they won’t pay for the poor minor league play. When they do it in Florida after a decade of losing they say you don’t deserve a team if you won’t fill the arena to watch the poor minor league play.

Posted by Puckbubba on 10/25/13 at 10:56 AM ET

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Posted by Puckbubba on 10/25/13 at 10:56 AM ET

Or worse, in Phoenix, where the team has generally sucked and everyone told fans the team was about to relocate…. all the so-called hockey experts decided attendance sucked because of the geography while downplaying the obvious. Drives me nuts. Chicago and Pittsburgh were pretty bad in attendance not so long ago too….

Posted by awould on 10/25/13 at 12:10 PM ET

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Or worse, in Phoenix, where the team has generally sucked and everyone told fans the team was about to relocate…. all the so-called hockey experts decided attendance sucked because of the geography while downplaying the obvious. Drives me nuts. Chicago and Pittsburgh were pretty bad in attendance not so long ago too….

Posted by awould on 10/25/13 at 12:10 PM ET

I don’t see much of a correlation in Phoenix to anything that would suggest that a large hockey base is staying away from games due to product-related issues.

In 2010-11 they won 43 games and made the playoffs yet averaged just over 12000 fans a game. The previous year, they won 50 games (107 points) and didn’t even make it to 12000 a game. 

This year they’re just over 13000. Playing relatively decently, last night notwithstanding, ownership issues settled…sorta kinda.

Posted by shazam88 from SoCal on 10/25/13 at 12:48 PM ET

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Right on cue, another hockey expert correlating low attendance to no fan base because the team won some games that year while ignoring the massive effect of the team lacking an owner and probably (according to most reports) skipping town. Hard for fans to get up and pay money for a team that’s about to skip town. Any argument about the bad attendance from 2009 on is ridiculous without taking that into account.

Posted by awould on 10/25/13 at 01:04 PM ET

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Hard for fans to get up and pay money for a team that’s about to skip town.

Hard to give the “fans” much credit if whether or not they want to see a game is based more on who owns the team than what the on-ice product is.

Posted by Garth on 10/25/13 at 01:21 PM ET

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Right on cue, another hockey expert correlating low attendance to no fan base because the team won some games that year while ignoring the massive effect of the team lacking an owner and probably (according to most reports) skipping town. Hard for fans to get up and pay money for a team that’s about to skip town. Any argument about the bad attendance from 2009 on is ridiculous without taking that into account.
   
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      on 10/25/13 at 01:04 PM ET

Right on cue, awould comes up with a reason why no one can complain about poor attendance in Phoenix.  Since the league-owned team has been threatening to ‘skip town’ for several years now, which is not the fans’ fault, you suggest both that fans should not be expected to show up and that the team should remain where it is.

Posted by LivinLaVidaLockout on 10/25/13 at 01:25 PM ET

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When they do it in Florida after a decade of losing they say you don’t deserve a team if you won’t fill the arena to watch the poor minor league play.

Posted by Puckbubba on 10/25/13 at 10:56 AM ET

The problem is that even when Florida DOES make the playoffs or has a competitive team, the fans still don’t come out.

Posted by Primis on 10/25/13 at 02:42 PM ET

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The answer here is clearly that the Sabres and Panthers should switch locations.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/25/13 at 02:59 PM ET

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