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Is A Lockout Likely?

from the CP at TSN,

The first tense moments of the NHL’s collective bargaining negotiations have arrived.

With NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and NHL Players’ Association head Donald Fehr not scheduled to sit across from one another until the middle of next week and the sides unable to even agree on the core issues that need to be addressed, a sense of uneasiness has suddenly enveloped the talks.

After Wednesday’s session, in which the NHL dismissed the union’s initial proposal, Fehr set off for pre-scheduled player meetings in Chicago. The union boss will also oversee a session with players in Kelowna, B.C., before returning to Toronto and resuming CBA discussions on Aug. 22.

At that point, the league and its players’ association will have just 24 days left to reach a new agreement and avoid a lockout.

But where do they start? There is very little common ground between the proposals each side has put forth and neither seems particularly willing to move off its current position.

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The Hurricane's avatar

A perfect example of how everyone gets screwed when you start messing with free markets. Socialism ALWAYS fails….

Posted by The Hurricane on 08/16/12 at 01:49 PM ET

Matt Fry's avatar

Damn players…  The owners are the ones that give you your money in ridiculous contracts.  The least talented of them make more money than most ticket paying fans will ever make in a lifetime.  The union is a joke.  I can understand a union for people in “regular” jobs but not for multimillion dollar sports stars.

On the other hand, when the NHL forces teams to have to spend more (even twice as much) then they did before the lockout, of course there’s going to be teams still struggling.  At least 53 million now whereas the majority of teams were hovering around the 30-40 million dollar mark in 2004.  That’s not inflation, that’s downright idiotic.

These guys just need to stop jerking around regular fans, man up and get this done.  It really can’t be that difficult.  Guarantee, Paul Kelly would have already taken care of this and it would be done by now.  I really do not like Donald Fehr

Posted by Matt Fry from Winnipeg on 08/16/12 at 02:23 PM ET

Nate A's avatar

The least talented of them make more money than most ticket paying fans will ever make in a lifetime.  The union is a joke.  I can understand a union for people in “regular” jobs but not for multimillion dollar sports stars.

So? They are the elite players in the world. Vital or “regular” job or not, scarcity says they deserve to be paid like they’re the cream of the crop. Why should they let themselves be pushed around when the are the absolute best of 6 billion + people on the entire planet? Particularly in an industry that generates the revenue professional sports entertainment does.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 08/16/12 at 03:13 PM ET

The Hurricane's avatar

Pay them EVERY cent they are worth PLUS bonuses….and let the Canadian teams and the desert teams that can’t afford to make payroll FOLD. ALL of this crap is to socialize an industry that was just fine before they started mucking around with ‘fairness.’

Posted by The Hurricane on 08/16/12 at 04:39 PM ET

shazam88's avatar

Pay them EVERY cent they are worth PLUS bonuses….and let the Canadian teams and the desert teams that can’t afford to make payroll FOLD. ALL of this crap is to socialize an industry that was just fine before they started mucking around with ‘fairness.’

Posted by The Hurricane on 08/16/12 at 02:39 PM ET

Canadian teams, lol.  Desert teams, Long Island teams, Texas teams, Florida teams, take your pick.  Nice try politicizing it, too.  You do realize the difference between a closed organization and the free market, right?  The NFL has figured it out.

Posted by shazam88 from SoCal on 08/16/12 at 05:24 PM ET

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The NFL has figured it out.

Yes the large market teams subsidize the small market teams and players are crippled and cast off quicker than a race horse with a broken leg.

Damn players…  The owners are the ones that give you your money in ridiculous contracts.  The least talented of them make more money than most ticket paying fans will ever make in a lifetime.

And where do those owners get their money? I always wonder why people think if the players get paid less that owners won’t just make more of what they get from the fans? 

I can understand a union for people in “regular” jobs but not for multimillion dollar sports stars.

Would it make any sense to say,  ” I can’t understand a “union” for regular people in a first world nation when there are people in the third world that would gladly work for less.” I’m not envious of what players make or of what the owners make either. I just wish I had the ability to do the same.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 08/16/12 at 06:22 PM ET

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