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Is The Dynasty Talk Crumbling In Pittsburgh?

from Scott Burnside of ESPN,

The word "dynasty" rolled off peoples' lips. And who could blame them?

Except is hasn't exactly turned out that way.

Crosby's injuries, and injuries at critical times to other key personnel saw. the Penguins win just one playoff round in the three years after the Cup win.

But buoyed by the addition of veteran leaders like Brenden Morrow, Douglas Murray and Jarome Iginla, the sky seemed the limit this spring for a Penguin team that had finished first in the Eastern Conference during the lockout shortened season.

Instead they ran into a brick wall of a team in the Bruins and they folded in shocking fashion in the conference final losing in four games, scoring just twice, being shut out on the power play and never owning a lead.

"It's almost embarrassing being out and about. Expectations that we've had on ourselves and then to not be there it's tough, it's not an easy time of the year," Morrow said.

"Some guys you may never see again, so this week is bittersweet," he said.

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BrendonR's avatar

??? So one series win in three years is now a dynasty? Well the Leafs almost won their series this year so start getting ready for the Leafs dynasty….

Posted by BrendonR on 06/09/13 at 05:29 PM ET

pgoody's avatar

Pitts business model is an ideal one… suck ass for a few seasons to get consecutive top 5 1st round picks win stanley cup with said picks then go back to sucking ass to get top picks again…

Posted by pgoody on 06/09/13 at 06:16 PM ET

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We were told Detroit didn’t have a dynasty in 97-98, but an argument could be made Pittsburgh was one with one Cup

Makes perfect sense.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/09/13 at 06:32 PM ET

LiteWork's avatar

Pitts business model is an ideal one… suck ass for a few seasons to get consecutive top 5 1st round picks win stanley cup with said picks then go back to sucking ass to get top picks again…

Posted by pgoody on 06/09/13 at 06:16 PM ET

They might be the luckiest drafting team ever. The Pens seem to bad at just the right time when generational talent is available.

Posted by LiteWork on 06/09/13 at 06:42 PM ET

joedaiceman's avatar

Who most failed to live up to expectations - Penguins
Who most exceeded expectations - Red Wings.

Posted by joedaiceman on 06/09/13 at 06:52 PM ET

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Remember, lots and lots and lots of people here ripped Holland for not doing a Shero at the deadline.

What happened to Pittsburgh is why what Holland does is better the vast majority of the time is better than what Shero did.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 06/09/13 at 07:03 PM ET

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@HockeyinHD I agree with you that Holland is a great GM, But this failure is not on Shero. It’s on Crosby and co.

Posted by Pensfaninorlando on 06/09/13 at 07:32 PM ET

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UMM [strongCrosby’s injuries, and injuries at critical times to other key personnel saw. the Penguins win just one playoff round in the three years after the Cup win.]  No mention of the Incompetent Competent coaching staff?/

Posted by Evilpens on 06/09/13 at 07:49 PM ET

awould's avatar

I heard Bylsma was behind 9/11, was the guy who convinced Lucas to put Jar Jar Binks in the movie and was the brains behind New Coke. Seriously.

The idea that Pittsburgh was on pace for a dynasty was a real possibility after their two Finals appearances and a Cup. Since then, it’s been a downward trajectory of falling short of expectations. They will never be considered a dynasty and I don’t see any team ever getting to that status again with a salary cap and all the parity.

I am very curious to see how Pittsburgh manages their cap in the next two years. Chicago too. Will Malkin get traded? Will Hossa be bought out?

Posted by awould on 06/09/13 at 07:59 PM ET

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Will Malkin get traded? Will Hossa be bought out?

Mrazek to Pittsburgh for signing rights to Malkin.

Posted by MoreShoot on 06/09/13 at 08:11 PM ET

Primis's avatar

We were told Detroit didn’t have a dynasty in 97-98, but an argument could be made Pittsburgh was one with one Cup

Makes perfect sense.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/09/13 at 06:32 PM ET

Finals in 95, Cups in 97 & 98, and another Cup in 2002… that’s probably as lcose to a “dynasty” as we’ll see in today’s NHL.

But they wore red and white.

Posted by Primis on 06/09/13 at 09:56 PM ET

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I really do wonder.  Boston is a team very much built like Western conference teams.  It’s telling to me that they spanked PIT the way they did.  PIT absolutely choked in the first two games w/ losing their minds, but just plain got their afts handed to them in the last two by a superior team.

PIT’s lingering problem is Malkin/Crosby.  They’re at a point where they need to seriously consider moving one of them due to cap reasons.  If there were nobody like BOS in the East it might be different, but PIT needs quality depth both in forwards and on defense.  You’re not going to get that with that much of your cap (over $17m) wrapped into 2 centers.

That may not sound bad but… say Crosby and Malkin made only $6.7m each, and not $8.7m.  Between the two that’s $4m… basically another serious quality forward or blueliner.  That’s the sacrifice for paying “superstars”.

Add in to that paying $2m for a backup goalie because your $5m starter is scary, and what some of the flakey guys on your def. corps are making and… you have problems.

Maybe move Malkin, bring in Brad Richards for $5-6m/yr instead and save yourself a couple million you can allocate somewhere else, not to mention whatever ridiculous return you could get for Malkin?

And I still say Crosby should not be ignored.  If people balk at Malkin but not Crosby… to be blunt Malkin’s proven before he can carry the load without Crosby.

Posted by Primis on 06/09/13 at 10:38 PM ET

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Crosby has a serious injury-potential problem too. If Crosby weren’t the anointed one, I believe he’d be traded before Malkin.

Posted by awould on 06/10/13 at 12:38 AM ET

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Despise Crosby, but getting a puck to the jaw really shouldn’t be counted towards his supposed injury problems. 

I do not want to see Malkin in the winged wheel unless he first debases himself at the altar of Datsyuk and agrees to start playing two way hockey and quit effen whining.

Posted by wedge56 on 06/10/13 at 01:07 AM ET

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A puck to the jaw, an elbow to the head, a concussion, a knee to the knee .... Whatever it is, injuries stack up and wear a player down. Mostly though, referring to his major concussion and the possibility/probability that another one will end his career.

Whether Shero thinks it is a probability or a possibility should guide his decision.

Posted by awould on 06/10/13 at 01:25 AM ET

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Malkin isnt exactly a guy who stays healthy either.

Posted by LiteWork on 06/10/13 at 03:22 AM ET

Nathan's avatar

Geez, relax folks… the point was that the Pens had dynasty-capable talent assembled. Seems to me that is clearly true. Also, keep in mind that what constitutes a dynasty has changed a lot since the mid ‘90s.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 06/10/13 at 09:31 AM ET

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