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Is Ryan Johansen Asking For Too Much Money?

from Michael Arace of the Columbus Dispatch,

Ryan Johansen, the Blue Jackets’ top-line center, needs a new contract. His agent is Kurt Overhardt. The Jackets’ point man is assistant general manager Bill Zito.

Overhardt and Zito stopped negotiating on or around Aug. 1, which was five weeks ago.

The sides have agreed on a two-year term. The price tag is another matter. The Blue Jackets are offering around $7 million, or $3.5 million a year. Johansen’s agent is seeking something in the neighborhood of $13 million, or $6.5 million a year.

So, the sides are about $3 million apart, per year, and neither side is budging, and training camp is two weeks away.

This is getting stupid....

I am not bashing Johansen here. I am merely wondering what his agent is doing asking for the same second-contract money that was fetched by Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane.

Will Joey be as good as Toews? Maybe — but he is not as good right now, by any measure. Where is the Cup?

Overhardt should have an offer sheet from another team by now, if that is his angle. That would be fine. If he is aiming for a protracted holdout, I am betting the Blue Jackets hold firm. And they should.


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redxblack's avatar

Columbus is never going to be an attractive place for players if they are tight with the purse strings. It’s hard to get a top 6 forward for under $4m a year. I kind of hope Columbus does hold out mostly because I don’t mind watching them fall on their collective face year after year. It’s entertaining watching them burn their goodwill with their team by hardballing key pieces of their team.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 09/04/14 at 09:21 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

but he is not as good right now, by any measure. Where is the Cup?


Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 09/04/14 at 09:26 AM ET


Let’s compare

Toews after his 1st contract (2007-2010) he had 83 goals, 108 assist for 191 points and won the cup in the last year of his contract which helped. In return he got a 5 year contract at average of 6.3mil

Johansen after his 1st 3 years in the league has 47 goals, 49 assists for 96 points. Half the production of Toews. How the hell can him and his agent justify a higher 2nd contract than Toews.

Good for BJs for not budging. Of course, once the season starts and they start loosing, they will probably give in.

Posted by George0211 on 09/04/14 at 09:34 AM ET

Nathan's avatar

but he is not as good right now, by any measure. Where is the Cup?


Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 09/04/14 at 09:26 AM ET

Haha, I came here to post just this. The overall point of the article isn’t awful, but whenever someone writes something like this, it really poisons the entire well in my eyes.

When Johansen gets to play with the likes of Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Hossa, Sharp, Bickell, Saad, Bolland, Versteeg, and Shaw… then comparing Cups is a little more fair. And even then, it’s stupid. Because winning the Cup is not about a single player’s quality. Goddamn.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 09/04/14 at 09:38 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Exactly, Nathan.

“Where’s the Cup?” is a question which should be pointedly aimed at the Blue Jackets’ front office well before it should be pointed at Johansen.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 09/04/14 at 09:47 AM ET

Luongo-is-my-hero's avatar

its not unreasonable when u compare his demand in relation to the cap.  The salary cap was 50 million in 2007.  THe cap now is 69.3.

Posted by Luongo-is-my-hero on 09/04/14 at 12:55 PM ET

redxblack's avatar

Exactly. Columbus is offering their top center roughly the same salary as Anisimov, but with one less year. They’re offering him less than Kyle Quincey to be their top center. They spent on Hartnell and Horton, both in terms of salary and term. Now they’re tight with the cash when the cap has gone up.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 09/04/14 at 01:07 PM ET

Hootinani's avatar

Spend all this time trying to find a top end center for their orgnanization, and now that they find one, they get tight with the wallet.  My guess is because he’s home grown they think he should be willing to give them Ye Ole Hometown Discount.

Posted by Hootinani on 09/04/14 at 02:26 PM ET

Primis's avatar

Yes.  He is asking way too much.

One 30G season…. preceded by two single-digit goal seasons.

Jon Cheechoo once scored 56 goals, after all.  Anomalies and outliers happen.  Johansen needs to prove last season wasn’t a fluke.  CBS might be undercutting or lowballing him a bit, but it doesn’t excuse Johansen’s own sky-high tag.

Posted by Primis on 09/04/14 at 04:51 PM ET

mrfluffy's avatar

Dany Heatley was once supposed to score 70 goals, too. JJ and Nathan are right, the writer ended all credibility when he asked where Johansen’s Cup was.

I doubt he is worth 6.5, but for him not be making at least what Valterri Filppula is…good job, BJs.

Posted by mrfluffy from the phone, calling Detroit, telling them it's on 09/04/14 at 07:31 PM ET


Arace is a pretty good writer. One dumb, throwaway line doesn’t invalidate his career.

Back to Johansen: he’s asking too much. He needs to sign a two year bridge deal, with a high second year’s salary (to ensure a high qualifying offer) and show the jackets that his one good season was not a fluke.

Johansen is NOT so much better at center than Dubinsky and Anisimov that the Jackets can’t wait him out. And no offer sheet came his way, so forget about that.

He has no leverage here. None.

Posted by larry on 09/05/14 at 01:02 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

One dumb, throwaway line doesn’t invalidate his career.

I don’t think anybody is attempting to invalidate his career; that line invalidates a big part of the logic brought forward by Arace in what is already a woeful, badly-stretched comparison to Jonathan Toews.

If he continues to write crap like that in otherwise good articles, THAT could invalidate his career.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 09/05/14 at 02:26 PM ET

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