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Injured Or Not?

from Ryan Lambert of Yahoo,

Late last week, Brian Lawton went on the NHL Network and dropped a bit of a bombshell.

There are rumors, he said, that one or two guys on the Bruins are currently injured and would have to go on injured reserve. Those two players? You’ll never guess: David Backes and Kevan Miller, two guys who are of little or no use to the Bruins and yet take up a combined $8.5 million against the cap (or 10.4 percent)....

While this is obviously all shrouded in mystery today, and there’s no clear answer on whether they’re injured or how severe those injuries may be, doesn’t this all feel an awful lot like beach softening? Backes is 35, spent a chunk of the season as a healthy scratch, and is a black hole on the Bruins cap allocation (albeit one any observer with a brain saw coming years ago). Miller, likewise, is 31 and overpaid for what he provides.

If they do come up injured in that physical, let’s make no mistake here: They are injured. They’re being evaluated by medical professionals and are found to have these legitimate injuries. We don’t know if they would have to miss a week, a month, or the full season with them, but they should be taken at face value. However, as with the Marian Hossa’s skin condition or Henrik Zetterberg’s back injury that ended up on forever-IR, there’s a difference between them being injuries that are worth playing through and injuries that aren’t.

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Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 09/02/19 at 08:35 PM ET

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Of course Johan Franzen is healthy and simply helping the wings out by claiming he’s dealing with post concussion symptoms. The wings simply had him miss half of each of his last three full seasons as a precursor to putting him on LTIR. The lineup was full of clutch scoring power forwards , so they wouldn’t miss his goals in the playoffs.  confused

Posted by Down River Dan on 09/02/19 at 11:51 PM ET

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Note: Don’t agree with Lambert just because you want it to be true tongue wink

Posted by EthrDemon on 09/03/19 at 03:57 AM ET

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Holy sweet Gordie, I hadn’t read the whole thing when I posted that.  Throwing Franzen into the cap-circumvention category torpedoes his whole point.

Posted by EthrDemon on 09/03/19 at 04:03 AM ET

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That’s crazy.

And poor Franzen actually went out of his way to get clearance from a specialist at U of M, IIRC, and somehow was cleared.

Predictably that didn’t last long - any real intensity and the symptoms were too bad.

Of course we’ve also read about Franzen having trouble with symptoms even long after his last practice.

Franzen is admittedly a sore spot for me as the talk about his being “soft”
went on way way too long, after we’d already seen the effects of not only playing
a power forwards game without being a pugilist who might get a bit more space, but also overly being targeted for cheap shots to the head. It was borderline sickening.

Everything else about this column could be valid but including Franzen is really inappropriate.

Posted by lefty.30 on 09/03/19 at 08:21 AM ET

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I couldn’t give a rat’s ass what other teams do with their injured. The Wings have used LTIR several times, so to complain about anyone else doing is nothing but hypocrisy.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 09/03/19 at 08:34 AM ET

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To equate Hank’s back problem with Hossa’s “allergic reaction to hockey gear” is absurd. Hank has had chronic back problems for years. Hossa’s “issue” sprang up right at a time the Hawks needed cap space.

And using Franzen’s problem as an example in his piece casts doubt on the credibity of the whole article.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 09/03/19 at 10:50 AM ET

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To equate Hank’s back problem with Hossa’s “allergic reaction to hockey gear” is absurd.

Why? Zetterberg’s back suddenly became an issue when he was earning less than his cap hit, and after THREE consecutive years of ZERO games missed due to injury.

Sure, his back was talked about, but he had surgery and was better and more durable than before.

Hossa’s “issue” sprang up right at a time the Hawks needed cap space.

And Zetterberg’s sprang up right at the time that he was making less than his cap hit.

And using Franzen’s problem as an example in his piece casts doubt on the credibity of the whole article.

Why? Franzen is one of the first times that LTIR was used specifically to circumvent the cap. He was injured? OK, then he should’ve retired.

Period.

End. Of. Story.

Either every use of “LTIRetirement” is legit or every use of it isn’t, and it’s hypocritical to pretend otherwise.

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 09/03/19 at 12:22 PM ET

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Zetterberg’s back suddenly became an issue when he was earning less than his cap hit…

Posted by CharDeeMacDennis on 09/03/19 at 12:22 PM ET

Hank’s back became an issue when he could no longer play through the pain – which he did every game of the 2018-19 season.

And Zetterberg’s sprang up right at the time that he was making less than his cap hit.

See above.

Franzen is one of the first times that LTIR was used specifically to circumvent the cap. He was injured? OK, then he should’ve retired.

For some who knows so much about hockey, I would think you’d understand that you don’t retire when you’re injured. You go on LTIR. That’s what it’s there for.

Period.

End. Of. Story.

Oh, okay. Thanks for setting us all straight.  tongue rolleye

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 09/03/19 at 02:05 PM ET

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