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How Will The NHL React?
by Paul on 08/15/12 at 08:51 AM ET
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The NHL may inform the NHLPA today about the offer the PA made yesterday.
I am sure most of you have digested the offer so what do you think, how will the NHL react to the offer.
Will they use it as a starting point, will they turn it down or will they say nothing?
Your thoughts and I am sure there are more options for the NHL, but I tried to generalize and pick the best three scenarios.
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I think Fehr is playing a very subtle game. He gave the NHL owners proposal all due consideration and was very cordial. If the NHL reacts to the player’s counter proposal in any other manner - the players win the public.
From all acounts, the players proposal made some major concessions - it was a very humble proposal.
Posted by Navarath on 08/15/12 at 10:18 AM ET
Unfortunately, I just can’t see the owners agreeing to work with any of the player’s proposal. No concessions will be given and the possibility of another lost season will loom even larger. Sad
Posted by yzer19man from Chicago, IL on 08/15/12 at 10:20 AM ET
I’m not sure we’ll see a full response today. If we do, I expect the owners will tell the players that a deal where the players’ share is not based on percentage is not a place they want to start and that the idea of the fourth season under the current deal being the players’ option would be completely off the table.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 08/15/12 at 10:45 AM ET
It’s a good proposal or at least a good starting point. But I think Bettman and his backers are on the warpath. They know they’ll win any war of attrition, so I think a lockout in still guarenteed. But I think at least people will be more skeptical of the owners this time around.
Posted by henrymalredo from Lansing on 08/15/12 at 11:11 AM ET
I think they will take the dollar “concession” by the players, apply it to the cap reduction and up the revenue sharing portion of the NHL offer.
Posted by timbits on 08/15/12 at 11:15 AM ET
As a general rule, in any situation the NHL employs some degree of three methods of response: Arrogance, stupidity, and denial. Specific to this situation I would expect that their response would be mostly stupid, significantly arrogant, and slightly in denial.
This ^^
Perfect description of how the NHL Corporation is run.
I can actually imagine Leipold reading the NHLPA proposal, or having someone read it to him, and his reaction being “Wait, they are saying it’s our fault the players have these long term expensive contracts (pause) and I will actually have to pay out those contracts I was forced to give to that Perez guy and that other guy?”
Posted by starsfan26 on 08/15/12 at 11:37 AM ET
Good Lord You People read up on Donald Fehr ! he doesn’t do anything without an ulterior motive
Posted by Evilpens on 08/15/12 at 11:42 AM ET
Try this again [/codhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/tomvanriper/2012/05/01/will-donald-fehr-spoil-the-nhl-party/e]
Posted by Evilpens on 08/15/12 at 11:50 AM ET
EP, highlight your tiext, then select the <a> button and follow directions.
Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 08/15/12 at 11:53 AM ET
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomvanriper/2012/05/01/will-donald-fehr-spoil-the-nhl-party/
was your link.
Kind of a minimal article to say the least, and from several months ago, too.
We’ve already seen Bettman come in guns blazing, but if you want to villify Fehr, go ahead. He’s no fool; he knows who’s paying his bills and he’s going to be realistic about things. We’ve now seen him come back with a far more nuanced, intelligent response than most anticipated, though it’s something founded in basic negotiations: attempt to increase the size of the “pie” so you’re bringing more to the table. If you can do that effectively, it makes it easier to appease all parties, and it re-frames the agenda.
Posted by shazam88 from SoCal on 08/15/12 at 12:15 PM ET
Not my day Everything going wrong just not this ! Sorry to everyone by the way
He destroyed the competitive balance in baseball along with Marvin Miller, To the point where I don’t even watch it, Playoffs avoid at all cost. Just look who is going to make the playoffs.
If that is what you want hockey to be OK, But the NHLPA didn’t hire Fehr nor did he take the job to play pattycakes with the owners
Posted by Evilpens on 08/15/12 at 12:56 PM ET
He destroyed the competitive balance in baseball along with Marvin Miller,
I don’t think ‘competitive balance’ means what you think it means.
Posted by HockeyinHD on 08/15/12 at 01:09 PM ET
I don’t think ‘competitive balance’ means what you think it means.
Posted by HockeyinHD on 08/15/12 at 11:09 AM ET
Inconcievable!
Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 08/15/12 at 01:45 PM ET
Good Lord You People read up on Donald Fehr ! he doesn’t do anything without an ulterior motive
Posted by Evilpens on 08/15/12 at 09:42 AM ET
Is that motive a paycheck and a desire to support the rights of the employee?
Or do you think he just has it in for sports - hates healthy competition - and happens to be a great negotiator?
Posted by tuxedoTshirt from the Home of the 1937 World Champions on 08/15/12 at 03:07 PM ET
Posted by Evilpens on 08/15/12 at 10:56 AM ET
Why are you so convinced that the NHL will follow the same exact path as MLB? The sports themselves, the economics associated, the fanbases, and the competition with other leagues are completely different. We all get it. You hate Fehr for what happened to MLB and blame it entirely on him. To assume the exact same thing will happen to hockey, solely because he is involved, is ignorance.
Posted by WingsFaninCO on 08/15/12 at 03:43 PM ET
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As a general rule, in any situation the NHL employs some degree of three methods of response: Arrogance, stupidity, and denial. Specific to this situation I would expect that their response would be mostly stupid, significantly arrogant, and slightly in denial.
Posted by HockeyinHD on 08/15/12 at 09:52 AM ET