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Goodbye Southeast Division

from Luke DeCock of the News & Observer,

The Southeast Division sent a mere 21 teams to the postseason in 13 years under a format where more than half the teams in the league qualify for the playoffs. (Only eight even managed to get out of the first round.) The other five divisions? 43, 40, 39, 34 and 31.

As a group, the Southeast Division has a 19-19 playoff series record since 1999. To put that in some perspective, the Detroit Red Wings alone have won 18 playoff series over the same span, the Devils 17.

It’s the only division that has never sent more than two teams to the playoffs. The Atlantic Division, which will join the Hurricanes’ new division in its entirety, has never sent fewer than three.

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Primis's avatar

Good riddance to one of the worst divisions in the history of professional sport.

Say what you will about the new alignment, but any new alignment that kills off the Southeast is progress.

Posted by Primis on 04/21/13 at 01:44 PM ET

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This is a zero sum game.  The Southeast Division teams will remain.  They just got shuffled into new divisions.  There is nothing the NHL can do to keep the league from having bad teams.  There must be a team that finishes last every season.

Its not progress, its just shuffling the deck.  Progress of the nature you suggest is impossible.

Posted by PuckStopsHere on 04/21/13 at 03:43 PM ET

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It’s not about there being bad teams, of course there’s always going to be bad teams.  It’s about there being bad teams all together in the one division thus allowing one of those teams to make the playoffs and get a 3rd seed just for winning that suckfest.  Realignment moves those teams around to the point if they continue to be as bad as they have recently it’s very possible not 1 of them will make the playoffs next year.

Posted by Valek from Chicago on 04/21/13 at 04:11 PM ET

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This is a zero sum game.  The Southeast Division teams will remain.  They just got shuffled into new divisions.  There is nothing the NHL can do to keep the league from having bad teams.  There must be a team that finishes last every season.

Its not progress, its just shuffling the deck.  Progress of the nature you suggest is impossible.

Posted by PuckStopsHere on 04/21/13 at 03:43 PM ET

Oh I’m sorry then.

Those MARKETS all suck and are lousy hockey markets, and so the teams all sucked too.  Having them all together in one division, with a guaranteed Top 3 seed, was an incredibly-stupid plan as the numbers above indicate.  It was a pathetic joke of a division.

Better?

Posted by Primis on 04/21/13 at 04:28 PM ET

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Exactly Valek.

If you have a division of shit teams, a shit team gets that that 3rd playoff spot,  Doesn’t matter if their 10 points behind the 4th and 5th seed.

Shuffling them help eliminate unsatisfactory teams from still getting a chance.  It’s not fool proof but should help mitigate.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 04/21/13 at 05:07 PM ET

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Yes, the southeast was a bad division. But I think the reputation of the division gets a little overstated by the total ineptitude of Florida and Atlanta/Winnipeg. The other teams haven’t been great but they haven’t been Florida/Atlanta bad either. They did send three teams to the finals during that time frame with two winners. For comparison sake, that is the same amount of teams sent to the finals than the northeast division with one more winner.

Posted by UMFan from Denver, Colorado on 04/21/13 at 08:24 PM ET

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Posted by UMFan from Denver, Colorado on 04/21/13 at 08:24 PM ET

Great points. If they only sent 21 teams to the playoffs over the course of it’s creation and 3 of them ended up in the finals with 2 champions, then that’s a pretty good percentage compared to other divisions. The bigger issue was you had 3 expansion teams in a division of 5 teams in addition to the former Hartford franchise that was never the model of consistency over it’s existence. That’s a recipe for not so great results as we’ve seen but is that any different then when the NHL expanded from 6 to 12 teams and put all the new teams in their own division?

Posted by phillyd from Southern New Jersey on 04/22/13 at 09:50 AM ET

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The bigger issue was you had 3 expansion teams in a division of 5 teams in addition to the former Hartford franchise that was never the model of consistency over it’s existence.

I totally agree. Although with the Carolina thing, I used to live in NC. The Greensboro location was crap. Although living in Charlotte, it was a closer drive to, it was a crap place to plop down a hockey team. Personally, I think the Raleigh fan base is a good place. Its a growing place. Its not Toronto, but if proper management is in place, I think its a long term place where hockey can survive. Its the whole real estate thing about location, location, location. Greensboro sucked as a hockey location. I think that is why Florida and Phoenix have failed; bad location within the metro area. I also think that people get the fans mixed up with the actual hockey players. As to my original point, its all up to the way that you look at the numbers. For a good 5 year period, if you count getting to the finals as a significant measuring stick, the southeast division wasn’t all that bad.

Posted by UMFan from Denver, Colorado on 04/22/13 at 10:12 PM ET

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