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Goldwater Institute Files Suit Against Glendale

via Lisa Halverstadt tweets,

@GoldwaterInst suing #Glendale over failure to release #Coyotes deal exhibits, conduct competitive bid for arena operations.

Goldwater Institute suit was filed this morning on behalf of two #Glendale residents. Stay tuned for story with more details.

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I wonder how much extra in legal fees the Goldwater Institute is gonna cost the taxpayers of Glendale, as they insist on pursuing their fight to protect the taxpayers of Glendale.

Posted by jwad on 06/13/12 at 04:17 PM ET

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Why aren’t we surprised…

Posted by SYF from the team that re-signed KFQ and DFC by KFH on 06/13/12 at 04:38 PM ET

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David Shoalts pf the Globe and mail has a bit more on this.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 06/13/12 at 04:39 PM ET

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I don’t have a dog in this fight at all BUT it makes me smile a bit whenever I think about the Gnome cringing.

Posted by Vladimir16 from Grand River Valley on 06/13/12 at 05:55 PM ET

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This puts their claim that they are merely defenders of the Arizona Constitution in bad light. If they’re interested in making sure there is no illegal gift, then sue over that. This is just legal maneuvering to squash the deal for a reason that has nothing to do with the gift clause.

Ergo, they’re full of sh*t. (shocking!)

Posted by awould on 06/13/12 at 06:12 PM ET

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Posted by awould on 06/13/12 at 04:12 PM ET

I agree… they sure are full of a lotta ergo. LOL

Posted by calquake on 06/13/12 at 06:24 PM ET

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Isn’t the point that they need the listed files in order to determine if they should sue under other auspices?

I mean, who knows what is or is not being strategically withheld by Glendale, if anything?  If the CoG is able to stonewall Goldwater by delaying dispersement of info until the window lapses for them to be sued… well, that’s not cool, right?

Posted by HockeyinHD on 06/13/12 at 07:39 PM ET

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Put them out of their misery already…..

Posted by BettmenSucks79 on 06/13/12 at 07:42 PM ET

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Isn’t the point that they need the listed files in order to determine if they should sue under other auspices?

They can obtain these documents without pursuing this lawsuit. It’s public record. But instead, they seek to squash the deal outside of their original argument about being defenders of the Constitution.

Also, in the original request to get a restraining order to halt any vote at all, this was their argument and they lost. Now they will sue after the fact. Glendale’s response to the restraining order was to state that, basically, the exhibits they’re asking for are being finalized for public release but that the information was already made available.

Maybe that’s true, maybe they’re liars. My only point is that Goldwater is going after any way to stop this deal which belies the ‘gift clause’ position they’ve tried to adopt the whole time. So are they purely defenders of the Constitution or do they just hate this deal for other reasons?

Posted by awould on 06/13/12 at 07:48 PM ET

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They can obtain these documents without pursuing this lawsuit. It’s public record.

They can, of course… eventually.  But the point, I believe, is that those documents aren’t available right now, and the time-sensitive nature of these negotiations as well as the substantial nature of this public investment seems to warrant them being openly available prior to the deal being struck.

Glendale’s response to the restraining order was to state that, basically, the exhibits they’re asking for are being finalized for public release but that the information was already made available.

So then the ‘information’ is available, just not in document form?  In what kind of form?  Does it take that long to print off another copy?  Why, exactly, is there a substantial delay in the preparation of these forms into a format for public consumption?

Those seem like rational question that I might want to see explored before an incredibly small group of people commits the residents of Glendale to a 160ish million dollar future obligation.

My only point is that Goldwater is going after any way to stop this deal which belies the ‘gift clause’ position they’ve tried to adopt the whole time. So are they purely defenders of the Constitution or do they just hate this deal for other reasons?

What difference does it make?  Does a ‘purer’ motive make the legal outcome of their inquiry any more or less important?  I don’t think so.  This issue will be resolved in a fairly short window, I would think.  I hardly believe a delay of a week or two (or even three) to be such an onerous thing to endure when we’re talking about a 20 year, 160 million dollar investment of public funds.

That aside, my impression of the Goldwater Institute is that they are trying to get Glendale to follow the local law.  If Glendale is, this suit will be dismissed shortly.  If they have not, well, then we’ll get to see.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 06/13/12 at 10:03 PM ET

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Does a ‘purer’ motive make the legal outcome of their inquiry any more or less important?

According to GI, their reason for objecting to the deal is that it violates the “gift clause” of the Constitution. This isn’t a motive, it’s a reason they’ve given. The only reason to this point. Therefore, it follows that if the deal is judged to be legal they should have no objection. So when they pursue a path to killing the deal that has nothing to do with the ‘gift clause’, it is fair to question what their actual motive is.  And if their motives are inconsistent with their public position, then they are full of sh*t. Which is my point right now.

You and I have already gone in circles on this and ended up no where. Clearly we will not agree.

Posted by awould on 06/13/12 at 10:58 PM ET

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This suit is not a surprise and has always been a part of the consideration with this deal. It has clearly been GI’s intention to sue no matter what happens. I have always felt that Goldwater is being influenced by Kendrick and the Diamondbacks. They benefit from less competition in the market place and I don’t believe that is a coincidence that the organization his wife is heavily involved in is suing.  Sports fans in Phoenix need to make their displeasure known with the D-bags!

Posted by timbits on 06/13/12 at 11:50 PM ET

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Posted by timbits on 06/13/12 at 09:50 PM ET

I agree with all of that.

Posted by awould on 06/14/12 at 12:24 AM ET

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