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Go Back To The Igloo and Chill

As most of you know, some fans from some city in Pennsylvania haven’t taken very well to the fact of an organized fan gathering on Friday night, August 19th at Champions on Long Island.

First off, let me discuss what this gathering is for.  The official invite page with a summary of the event can be found here.  The aim and purpose of this party is to gather Islanders fans who are craving for hockey and can’t wait the 55 more days until the season starts. 

It is a celebration of the highest goal output of the season for a team that has struggled mightily in the past decade.  It is the celebration of a Calder trophy finalist scoring a hat trick.  It is the celebration of a fan favorite in Matt Moulson reaching the 20 goal plateau with two goals.  It is a celebration of young defenseman Travis Hamonic tallying two helpers.  It is a celebration of the Islanders budding superstar John Tavares proving that he is as much as a playmaker as a goal scorer with one goal and three assists.  It is a celebration of young 25-year old center Michael Haley scoring his first career NHL goal.  It is a celebration of PA Parenteau notching his 34th and 35th points of the season.  It is a celebration of young Finnish goaltender Mikko Koskinen stopping 35 out of 38 shots in getting one of only two total wins on the season. 

This is not a celebration of 23 total suspension games lost between the two teams.  It is not a celebration of two all out line brawls.  It is a not a celebration of 346 total penalty minutes.  It is not a celebration of one of the league’s greatest players ever threatening to not be a part of the NHL any longer.  Super Mario’s reaction was justified in my opinion, but we are not celebrating his frustration and aggravation that this game caused. 

Many, many Islanders fans were talking about this game for weeks after it was over.  It reminded them of the glory days for the blue and orange.  It reminded them of past players giving their all every night out on the ice.  It reminded them of players not having anything left when they skated back to the locker room after the final buzzer sounded.  It reminded them of four Stanley Cups.  It gave the hope that Lord Stanley may be back on Long Island in the not too distant future.

This is simply a gathering of New York Islander fans to celebrate arguably the brightest part of last season for Isles fans.  I know one thing for sure-Islander fans who will be at Champions this Friday night and watching on MSG Plus will only be celebrating the positives that came from this game from an Islander fan perspective, nothing more.

William Morrison
@TheIsleInformer
The Islanders Informer

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J.J. from Kansas's avatar

Yeah, and every southerner who paints the Confederate Flag on his truck is just announcing that his political leanings are more towards state rights than a strong central government, right?

You can’t separate the good from the bad in that game by such clean lines and you can’t tell me that there aren’t people planning to celebrate the game where the Islanders physically kicked the Penguins’ asses either.  This is some Uncle Tom reasoning.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 08/14/11 at 06:08 PM ET

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I’m glad you mentioned the other parts of that game because I’m afraid it is burned into my memory for all the wrong reasons.  Thanks for clearing that up, or at least making some reasonable counter-points.

Posted by petshark from Nor Cal, and on Twitter @petshark47 on 08/14/11 at 06:08 PM ET

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Yeah, and every southerner who paints the Confederate Flag on his truck is just announcing that his political leanings are more towards state rights than a strong central government, right?

LOL, yep the perfect analogy.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 08/14/11 at 06:19 PM ET

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JJ: Why would a team have a viewing party just to celebrate penalty minutes, suspensions, etc.?  And, pick another game from last season that the NYI would have a viewing party for other than this one.

Posted by William Morrison on 08/14/11 at 06:23 PM ET

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JJ, once again, just telling it like it is.

Posted by dcbng from NoVa on 08/14/11 at 06:28 PM ET

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Why is there a term for slowing down to look at the carnage of a car accident?
Why is professional wrestling so popular?
Why does the German language have a word for pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others?

I’m sure those 9 goals will be celebrated with Gusto, but don’t pretend like the goonish violence from that contest which gave the league a black eye isn’t going to be celebrated.

I trust that, if you’re at that viewing party, you’ll let us know that all the Islanders fans in attendance show a proper level of tact and concern about the vicious attack on Eric Tangradi?

The Isles may have not earned any of their 29 other victories this season in such an emphatic fashion, but I’m sure that the rest of those victories came without quite so much embarrassing behavior by the team.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 08/14/11 at 06:30 PM ET

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The Isles may have not earned any of their 29 other victories this season in such an emphatic fashion, but I’m sure that the rest of those victories came without quite so much embarrassing behavior by the team.

Check and Mate.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 08/14/11 at 06:42 PM ET

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Yeah, and every southerner who paints the Confederate Flag on his truck is just announcing that his political leanings are more towards state rights than a strong central government, right?

Bingo.

Also,
1) the Igloo’s closed
2) the Flyers never held an event to replay Mike Richards’ Pearl Harbor on David Booth in what was a shellacking on the scoreboard in another game that had no meaning for the standings. They never held this event because their fanbase (yes, even the Philly fanbase) knows it would have been a celebration of, well, nothing of consequence but a cheapshot and a win against a team they weren’t in competition with. There’s no banner that goes up in rafters when one guy blindsides another guy he has no history with.

The Islanders are the least-desired team to play for among NHL players (behind even Edmonton, which is freezing cold, and Columbus, which has never even threatened at being competitive). The reason for this is that, despite being in a more desirious area for a 20-something millionaire athlete than ~80% of the other places they could be playing, the organization, unlike those other teams, is a circus. Not a professionally run franchise. Events like this (as well as letting an actor guest coach the team and sit at the draft table) just reinforce that perception.

Posted by steviesteve on 08/14/11 at 06:43 PM ET

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JJ: Why would a team have a viewing party just to celebrate penalty minutes, suspensions, etc.?  And, pick another game from last season that the NYI would have a viewing party for other than this one.

Posted by William Morrison on 08/14/11 at 04:23 PM ET

What JJ said.

As far as a better game, look no further than that comeback game just after Christmas (against the Flyers?). You know, the one Tavares referenced when asked about what he was most-proud of in 2010-11 because he felt it showed them as a locker room that they could compete with good teams and beat them.

Posted by steviesteve on 08/14/11 at 06:47 PM ET

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J.J. ended this BS in a HURRY ! Anybody Pens Fan or any other fan that adds anything to this is just Trolling & I don’t ever use the Word Trolling ! Bravo J.J. !

Posted by Evilpens on 08/14/11 at 06:59 PM ET

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1) The Igloo being closed is the point.

2) The year of the Richards hit was 2009-2010, a season in which the Flyers finished 7th in the East with 88 points and made the Stanley Cup Finals.  For a highlight of that season, Flyers fans could have simply replayed the whole playoffs up until the SCF.

3) Tavs is smart and isn’t going to publicly say that he is proud of that game, because none of the Isles are proud of the fighting and other intolerable parts in the game.

4) We will have to watch the MSG Plus coverage and see what is talked about before starting the game replay.  The fighting and suspensions will no doubt be discussed, but hopefully taken off the table quickly and not brought up again.

Posted by William Morrison on 08/14/11 at 06:59 PM ET

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I call BS. The invite says “you were on your feet through all the ruckus cheering…” goals and scoring milestones have never been referred to as ruckus.

Posted by Oilslick82 on 08/14/11 at 06:59 PM ET

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Guys come on.  This is a fun time for Islanders fans to get together during the summer when we are longing for some hockey and just talk pucks and have some fun.

Posted by William Morrison on 08/14/11 at 07:13 PM ET

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Translation <Come on Guys quit proving what a PUTZ I am & what a Mickey Mouse OrganIzation the Fishermen are>

Posted by Evilpens on 08/14/11 at 07:17 PM ET

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3) Tavs is smart and isn’t going to publicly say that he is proud of that game, because none of the Isles are proud of the fighting and other intolerable parts in the game.

So you’re saying Tavares not cheering barbarism is ‘smart’ and the organization celebrating it is?

Also, Snow was quite pleased with this embarrassment to the sport, saying so frequently, with comments like ‘Trevor’s heart was in the right place’. Guess Snow likes cowards. He was like that when he played.

Posted by steviesteve on 08/14/11 at 07:22 PM ET

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Guess there are a lot of bitter Pens fans out there.  The Islanders finally take up for themselves after being run time after time after time and this is what happens.  If any other team would have had what the Isles had done to them, the same thing would have happened.  I applaud the Isles for finally taking up for themselves and showing some toughness and grit.

Posted by William Morrison on 08/14/11 at 07:39 PM ET

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Well here is the 1st Blog to be blocked when KK’s is updated! Unfortunately this is the case, Because I am all for free speech

WAIT I thought it wasn’t about the Thuggery ?

Posted by Evilpens on 08/14/11 at 07:41 PM ET

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It doesn’t bother me that they’re replaying it (except for the inevitable cheering when a guy gets hurt.) but just call a spade a spade, that’s all.

Posted by Oilslick82 on 08/14/11 at 07:45 PM ET

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I never once have defended or taken up for some of the uncalled for actions that occurred during that game.  But, I applaud the players for taking up for themselves.  It has to be done at some point or they will keep getting run over and over again.  It just escalated out of control in this instance.

Posted by William Morrison on 08/14/11 at 07:47 PM ET

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It “Escalated Out of control” who escalated it out of control?

Posted by Evilpens on 08/14/11 at 07:51 PM ET

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I never once have defended or taken up for some of the uncalled for actions that occurred during that game.  But, I applaud the players for taking up for themselves.  It has to be done at some point or they will keep getting run over and over again.  It just escalated out of control in this instance.

Posted by William Morrison on 08/14/11 at 05:47 PM ET

Let’s rewind a bit to the previous matchup prior to Feb. 11th….

You can’t possibly be referencing Talbot’s hit on Comeau as “getting run”, are you?

You can take another look if you’d like, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicvRtISupY&feature=player_embedded#at=16

Then later, did you defend DiPietro when he clipped Matt Cooke high in the previous meeting?  You know, after which got his ass knocked out by Brent Johnson?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yjdlEO0G154

So then Feb. 11th comes around, Snow calls up Michael Haley, whose sole purpose was basically to fight everyone he could….

Followed soon by Gillies’ clear intent to injure on Tangradi…

Not even mentioning Tavares’ slash to the foot of Letang, or Martin’s hit on Talbot…

But you just keep on “celebrating your highest goal output”....

Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 08/14/11 at 08:38 PM ET

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This is a sad attempt to defend the sad franchise that the Isles have become. They were best served distancing themselves from this mess, instead they organize an event to showcase it again. Your attempt to justify it is even more of a joke than the game itself.

Posted by Russian Rocket on 08/14/11 at 08:51 PM ET

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It’s sad, really, what the Isles organization has become.  To have a gathering to commemorate depraved thuggery and intent-to-injure is a sign of the last twitches of a dying organization.

When someone or something knows they’re going down, with nothing to lose, they’ll often lash out at others ... The “If I’m going down, I’m taking everyone with me” mentality. The clock ticks toward 2015.

Enjoy your Isles Rewind Party, Isles Fans.

And since nothing all that bad happened on the ice, maybe some reenactments of that game can take place in Champions too. Sucker-punch each other, deliver a few flying elbows to people sitting near a wall, then yell at them while they’re writhing on the ground. Because people are just little pussies if they can’t take getting sucker-punched or elbowed and they shouldn’t whine about it, cause you know, I got pushed around a few weeks back, so it’s perfectly justified if I show up and mess a few people up.

Gotta take up for myself and show some toughness and grit, don’t you know.

Hey, nothing all that bad happened on the ice.

Posted by PensRampage from Canada on 08/14/11 at 09:10 PM ET

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Oh for goodness sake… like it or not, it was an entertaining game. And there’s no team in the NHL who haven’t at some point had somebody wearing their sweater commit a dangerous, dirty, or full-on thuggish play - and no fanbase that has universally condemned it.

Trevor Gillies. Ulf Samuelsson. Todd Bertuzzi. Claude Lemieux. And there’s at least a hundred more.

Posted by fcjbencard on 08/14/11 at 09:50 PM ET

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I guess Pens fans forget that this happened:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_Ri0NV9Fjw

But you guys will still defend Cooke somehow.  You guys seem to forget that Danny B sends Cooke out there every game for one thing and one thing only.  The Islanders took up for themselves and did what the whole NHL has wanted to do with the Pens-take up for themselves.  The Pens led the NHL in PIM going into the 2.11.11 game.  Coincidence?  I think not.  I guess you guys have nothing better to do this offseason than continuously bash a fan meet up and put up on a pedestal the thug that the Pens still employ.

Posted by William Morrison on 08/14/11 at 09:50 PM ET

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I’m a fan of neither the Islanders nor the Penguins and I still think it’s a stupid idea. 

Please don’t pretend that you speak for the entire NHL. I don’t want anybody on my team doing to Eric Tangradi what that coward Trevor Gillies pulled.  Nor do I want anybody skating down ice to pick a fight with either of the Penguins’ goalies. 

You do NOT speak for me as a fan and you do not speak for my organization.

If somebody wants to take a dirty run at Matt Cooke, I probably have an easier time looking away, but Eric Tangradi has played 16 games in the NHL and doesn’t have a major penalty. Keep pretending that cheap-shotting him was somehow supposed to karmically make up for the way Dan Bylsma coaches or Matt Cooke plays. If you’d like some more analogies to the US Civil War and taking generalized anger out on innocent people, I’m sure I can provide more of the same.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 08/14/11 at 10:14 PM ET

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I in no way am taking up for anything that Trevor Gillies did that night.  There is no place in the NHL for anything Gillies did or what happened to Tangradi.  The cheap shot on him was absolutely uncalled for.  I was simply saying that they needed to stand up to Matt Cooke and they did so.

Posted by William Morrison on 08/14/11 at 10:18 PM ET

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But you guys will still defend Cooke somehow.  You guys seem to forget that Danny B sends Cooke out there every game for one thing and one thing only.  The Islanders took up for themselves and did what the whole NHL has wanted to do with the Pens-take up for themselves.  The Pens led the NHL in PIM going into the 2.11.11 game.  Coincidence?  I think not.  I guess you guys have nothing better to do this offseason than continuously bash a fan meet up and put up on a pedestal the thug that the Pens still employ.

Not everyone defends Cooke. I didn’t like the hit against Ryan McDonaugh of the Rangers. That was the last time Cooke played last season.

As for that youtube clip, the Islanders were so pissed off about Cooke running DiPietro that they did nothing about it for four months. The only retribution the Islanders made towards Cooke was on February 2, when DiPietro stepped out of his crease to attack him in the final seconds of that game. That prompted Brent Johnson to drop the brittle loser, DiPietro. Johnson could’ve destroyed DiPietro after he lay defenseless on the ice after getting his ass knocked out, but he held back.

It’s funny you call Cooke a thug. Cooke is not Gillies. He’s not a thug loser who brings no skill or value to his team. Cooke is one of the league’s best penalty killers.  And while he does cross the line on occasion, he still brings value to the Penguins. Also, if you knew anything about hockey, you could trace the Penguins leading the NHL in penalty minutes to also being near the top of the league in fighting majors. By the way, the Islanders had three fewer major penalties than the Penguins last season. If the Penguins are thugs, the Islanders are too.

If the Islanders had any class, they could have had someone challenge Talbot to a fight on February 11. Instead, they chose to send another hack in Matt Martin after him in a blatant attempt to severely injure him. When Cooke hit Savard in March 2010, the Bruins settled it in the next meeting by sending Shawn Thornton to fight him. They fought. It was over. The Islanders acted wrongly in dealing with Talbot, who put a clean hit on Comeau in the October 15 game.

Bottom line is the Islanders could have settled this long before February 11, and could have done so in a more accepted manner than they did. But when your franchise is floundering and has been a failure for almost 30 years, I guess you need some excuse to generate fan interest.

Posted by cs6687 on 08/14/11 at 10:28 PM ET

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Cooke didn’t play in the February 11 game, by the way. The Islanders were targeting Talbot and Brent Johnson.

Posted by cs6687 on 08/14/11 at 10:29 PM ET

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Cooke didn’t play in the February 11 game, by the way. The Islanders were targeting Talbot and Brent Johnson.

Posted by cs6687 on 08/14/11 at 08:29 PM ET

Oh, I know. It’s not like the Isles weren’t ever going to get another shot at Cooke though. The DiPietro thing was unfortunate, but he knew the risk he was taking when he skated out to fight the much larger Brent Johnson. I didn’t consider the Talbot hit on Comeau to be anything worthy of revenge either. 

Also, it bears mentioning that the Penguins led the league in minor penalties last season. The Isles weren’t far behind, but it’s not like the Penguins built up the PIM lead on the strength of only fights.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 08/14/11 at 10:37 PM ET

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it bears mentioning that the Penguins led the league in minor penalties last season

That’s just a product of their dogged defensive play and the league/Bettmen/refs obvious bias against them. wink

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 08/14/11 at 11:10 PM ET

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Do you hear that?  That’s the sound of Penguin fans everywhere whining.  I’ve never seen such a bigger group of whiney, sniveling fans as those that follow the Penguins.
Pittsburgh is clearly a city of little girly hockey fans.  A real embarrasement to true hockey fans everywhere. 

So I’m saying to Penguin fans everywhere, stay away from watching hockey, there is a channel for you, it’s called the Lifetime channel.  I think you’ll be able to handle the drama there a little better then the NHL.

Posted by RogerNYLA on 08/14/11 at 11:19 PM ET

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But you guys will still defend Cooke somehow.

Til death.
As a Pens fan I reserve the right to be HYPO-critical of all other teams and their players.

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 08/14/11 at 11:24 PM ET

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RogerNYLA Yes there is a Hockey Channel for Fishermen Fans too it is called ........... History Channel In other words The Fishermen are History !

Posted by Evilpens on 08/14/11 at 11:29 PM ET

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RogerNYLA Yes there is a Hockey Channel for Fishermen Fans too it is called ........... History Channel In other words The Fishermen are History !

Good one Evilpens.  You got me!!!

Posted by RogerNYLA on 08/15/11 at 01:31 AM ET

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The game on Feb 11th was a sideshow and the Islanders owe a lot of apologies for what happened that night.  If the Islanders wanted to celebrate something positive over the off season couldn’t they have shown some of the games from their Cups runs?  Its hard to characterize this move as anything but antagonistic.

That said, I do have to laugh at how much the Pens get their panties in a twist every time somebody dishes their bullshit back at them.  Be it Mario and his major whining session when the Islanders handed them their arses, or Sidney slashing Zetterberg (basically every time they play) because he can’t stand to go up against players who can/will compete with him, or the uproar over Trevor Gillies throwing a cheap shot ala Matt Cooke; the Pens just can’t stand it when the other guy plays by their rules. There must be something in the water in Pittsburgh that causes myopia.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 08/15/11 at 01:36 AM ET

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Posted by Evilpens on 08/14/11 at 09:29 PM ET

Dude in fairness I remember it wasn’t too long ago that the Penguins were in a similar position, not everybody can have their asses pulled out of the shit can through good luck at the draft.  Maybe we would have called you the Dodos.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 08/15/11 at 01:39 AM ET

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NO It is called good Drafting ! How Many top 5 picks do the Fishermen get to have before they are a Legit NHL team instead of a AHL team?
Again this once great organIzation is a Cluster@#@# from the owner on Down!

Posted by Evilpens on 08/15/11 at 10:37 AM ET

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NO It is called good Drafting ! How Many top 5 picks do the Fishermen get to have before they are a Legit NHL team instead of a AHL team?
Again this once great organIzation is a Cluster@#@# from the owner on Down!

Posted by Evilpens on 08/15/11 at 08:37 AM ET

Ask the CBJ… the draft is a crap shoot.

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 08/15/11 at 01:03 PM ET

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they could have had someone challenge Talbot to a fight on February 11

They did, Martin challenged him and he fell to his knees in a fetal position. Martin got suspension for grabbing him aso he couldn’t run away.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 08/15/11 at 03:02 PM ET

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