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Gaustad Goes To Nashville

via Kevin Allen tweet,

Gaustad going to Nashville

Update: Per the Buffalo News’sJohn Vogl:

The Sabres have acquired a first-round pick from Nashville in exchange for Paul Gaustad and a fourth-round pick, according @TSNBobMcKenzie

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The Hurricane's avatar

Ugh….good fit for them…..

Posted by The Hurricane on 02/27/12 at 06:03 PM ET

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Frack. Frack. Frack.

Can’t wait to see the price.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/27/12 at 06:04 PM ET

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Jesus christ. Are they going to somehow end up with Nash too?

Posted by DrewBehr from The Mitten on 02/27/12 at 06:07 PM ET

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This just in, Holland signs an 80 pound weakling. Oy.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 02/27/12 at 06:07 PM ET

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That’s ok, we have Hudler.

Posted by godblender on 02/27/12 at 06:07 PM ET

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Kenny blew it big time, barring a ridiculous price here.  Didn’t add a single forward and traded away defensive depth.  wtf?

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 02/27/12 at 06:08 PM ET

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Son of a ......

Brendan Smith better be the effing next coming of Bobby frigging Orr because if that’s all we did today we are cooked.  The PP is hot garbage and unless Cleary and Bert suddenly catch fire and Hudler grows 5 inches and 50 pounds we’re not going anywhere this year.  Inconsistent team who is becoming easier and easier to play against physically.

I really hope that we are playing rope a dope here and can turn it up a few notches.

Posted by MTL_WINGS from Montreal on 02/27/12 at 06:09 PM ET

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SJ will be smacking us around again. Sigh.

Posted by Wings_in_NYC on 02/27/12 at 06:12 PM ET

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I joked about Detroit adding Sammy Pahlsson the other day…now that goofball looks pretty good, and in a Nucks uni no less.

Posted by godblender on 02/27/12 at 06:13 PM ET

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LOL at the Preds saying they are all in ....  Suter and Weber must be overwhelmed by this input of such offensive talent !!    Holland choked once again.  Get sick of hearing how we have room to make moves and then he never does it.  This team needs help at faceoffs and he can’t even give up a 4th or something else for Pahlsson ?

Posted by Jim from Nashville on 02/27/12 at 06:14 PM ET

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Gaustad, Pahlsson, or Moen weren’t going to put the Wings over the top, so what’s the point of trading for them?

They need pretty substantial off-season personnel changes before they match up with SJ or Van in a 7-game series.

It’s depressing, but sometimes you just gotta punt. This team isn’t winning a Stanley Cup this year, with or without anyone they might’ve picked up today.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 02/27/12 at 06:14 PM ET

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Gm Holland to Free Press: #redwings are done, no other moves today

So after getting a conditional 7th round pick (whatever the hell that means) for Commodore, Tick Tock sands pat while the Sharks, Nuks and Preds all get grittier. Very, very disappointing.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/27/12 at 06:17 PM ET

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Looks like I can plan that summer vaca early. WOOT. Extra days to work on my tan.

Posted by RorSchach from Datsberg on 02/27/12 at 06:17 PM ET

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I’ve seen Gaustad a lot this year and he’s looked pretty sluggish. He’s got size but I see him in a lot of highlights getting pyloned this playoff season.

Posted by Chris M. from Ottawa on 02/27/12 at 06:25 PM ET

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Hey, don’t worry!  Look at all the cap space we have left so that we can go over the top at the trade deadl-

Oh.

Posted by Garth on 02/27/12 at 06:26 PM ET

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Gaustad, Pahlsson, or Moen weren’t going to put the Wings over the top, so what’s the point of trading for them?

Well for one they’d make Detroit harder to play against. I didn’t expect Holland to make any big splash, but adding NO ONE and trading away a d-man?! What the fu*k?!

So Franzen is skating on the third line? Wow. I’m sure that will motivate him to go all out for an extra couple of shifts in the next 10 games or so. Fuch me.

Posted by godblender on 02/27/12 at 06:27 PM ET

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The Sabres have acquired a first-round pick from Nashville in exchange for Paul Gaustad and a fourth-round pick, according @TSNBobMcKenzie

Well, if Gaustad is just a rental, that’s definitely too high a price to pay. So, I’ll give Holland a semi-pass on saying no to that.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/27/12 at 06:27 PM ET

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Wings can contend of they’re healthy and Howie stands on his head. 

They’re just not better than the other guys and that’s what we are accustomed to.

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 02/27/12 at 06:30 PM ET

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Fortunately, the playoffs are not played on paper (or in pixels). You can’t predict the Wings’ postseason success (or lack thereof) this year from last season or by what they did or didn’t do by the trade deadline. There are too may conditionals (injuries, bad calls, lucky bounces, etc.) to state with confidence that the Wings will lose to SJ, Van, or anyone else.

Does the team need some work? Hell yes, but it seems absurd to count them out before the playoffs even start. Maybe I’m an optimist, but I don’t think KH made any fatal errors that will doom the Wings in the postseason.

A first round pick for a rental is too steep a price, IMHO.

Posted by Seaner from San Jose on 02/27/12 at 06:30 PM ET

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Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 02/27/12 at 03:14 PM ET

Geez, I agree and disagree with you.

I agree that those guys aren’t game changers for this team. But I disagree that they aren’t Cup contenders. Vancouver is the front-runner at the moment for sure, but they’ve played well against the Canucks, and San Jose has had a horribly inconsistent and underwhelming season, especially considering how weak their division is compared to the Central. At least the Canucks have feasted on their weaker division-mates.

Also, consider that last year’s series was razor close, and the Wings are poised to, if they meet up with San Jose again, have home ice, while the Sharks are staring at (if they don’t draw the Wings in round one) a much tougher first round series, much like the Wings dealt with in 2010.

Both teams are formidable, no doubt, but the Wings should punt it? C’mon! Sad as I am to say it, even St. Louis looks legitimate. I think between the Blues, Wings, Canucks, and Sharks, there’s almost no space to breathe. And the Preds always find a way to make life difficult for everyone. So it is tough sledding, but the Wings have the points, the talent, and the experience to have as good a shot as anyone. Better than being Columbus, or even Phoenix, knowing you can be a playoff team but aren’t gonna win anything worthwhile.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 02/27/12 at 06:33 PM ET

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Posted by shanetx on 02/27/12 at 03:30 PM ET

Exactly, that’s the league now. We have to get used to it. You’ve got to shoot to be in the top echelon of your conference, and if you get there, you’ve got as good of a chance come the stretch run as anyone else. That’s where Detroit is this year. Not really fair to expect much more.

Also, given that it is a cap world and this parity does exist, the best chance to win Cups is to stay in that top tier year after year. And you can’t do that if you spend lots of picks and prospects on rental players.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 02/27/12 at 06:35 PM ET

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And the Canucks just got bigger up front, trading Cody Hodgson to the Sabres for Zack Kassian. Sigh.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/27/12 at 06:42 PM ET

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Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 02/27/12 at 03:33 PM ET

Good points. But I still don’t see the Wings matching up well against SJ or Vancouver in the playoffs. SJ is a better team than they’ve let on, and I’m not convinced the Wings will carry home ice into the second round. I said at the beginning of the season that they looked like a 4 seed to me, and they still do, record be damned.

I think it’s been really telling how bad the Wings have been without Datsyuk and Lidstrom in the lineup this year - just completely lost - and I think it really portends badly that Franzen has disappeared (again) and Zetterberg doesn’t look like the same player he once was (I know he’s been better lately, though).

All in all, the Wings have actually outperformed my expectations this year, though. And like I said at the end of last season, at least they have a legitimate playoff goalie. Not many teams can say that.

I’m not saying the run is over by any stretch. I fully expect them to be a better team next year. I just don’t see it happening this year.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 02/27/12 at 06:44 PM ET

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The Sabres have acquired a first-round pick from Nashville in exchange for Paul Gaustad and a fourth-round pick, according @TSNBobMcKenzie

Holland should have taken this(using our 2013 pick).  What did he offer for Sammy in Florida?  Unless one of the kids from GR shows some grit with the occasional scoring ability, we will not go far in the playoffs.  So disappointing.  We better go shopping this summer and make use of all the cap space.

Posted by Crow on 02/27/12 at 07:07 PM ET

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The only thing I’m really concerned about is getting Franzen on track and everyone else staying healthy.  When I see Wings not acquiring Gaustad or Moen, I look at what the lineup change would have looked like and I wonder where either would have gone.  Do you pay a first and a fourth to get Gaustad and put him on the fourth line?  That may be where he was going.  Or would you have broken up the third line, currently our most consistent line?  I think about what Kenny way weighing and I’m not sure what else he could have done unless he wanted to swing for a top six forward, but they weren’t really available, either.  It’s all about Mule.  I’m not worrired about losing Commodore.  They do have the depth there.

Posted by MoreShoot on 02/27/12 at 07:09 PM ET

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who knew the Wings would end up sellers on deadline day.. with all the cap space and 2nd in the West…..


Kassian is a good gritty winger.  In a Wings system he could really flourish.  I’d have traded Emmerton for him in a heartbeat.

Kenny is banking on Smith and Q resurecting the PP

and he’s banking on the PP to make up for the offense we lose when we’re missing Pav.

KH-“Brenden Smith was our draft day aquisition.  He’s gritty and provides some offense and gives us defensive depth.. and we already had him so he was free”

We’re 1 injury in our top 6 away from an early (pre-conference final) exit.  Our “swing” guy is Cleary and he’s got hard miles on him and it’s been showing all season as well as the end of last season.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 02/27/12 at 07:11 PM ET

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Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 02/27/12 at 03:33 PM ET

Here’s the thing.  As we all know, the playoffs are a grind.  It’s about endurance as much as anything, and our fourth line is going to be what, Holmstrom, Emmerton, Mursak?

How many minutes do you think that line plays?  How many more minutes do the other lines have to play because of that?  How much more quickly do the forwards get worn down because of that?

Posted by Garth on 02/27/12 at 07:11 PM ET

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and our fourth line is going to be what, Holmstrom, Emmerton, Mursak?

Probably Abdelkader centering Homer and one of the other two.  Mursak is in a position to provide the kind of grind Helm did three years ago, and i think he’s up to it.

Posted by MoreShoot on 02/27/12 at 07:20 PM ET

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VAN top 6 - Sedins, Burrows, Kesler, Booth (a midseason trade aquisition), Raymond (which would be the equivalent of Helm for us, but is NEVER utilized in a top 6 role like Raymond is) and/or Hodgson (which I assume now, since he was traded that it’s Kassian, a big gritty e.i. power forward,  winger with some offensive upside)

Not to mention they have Manny freakin’ Malhotra on the 4TH LINE (face off wizard) and just picked up Phaulsson (d specialist)

That’s just ONE team we’ll have to go through to get to the Cup Finals.

How does that match up to the SOLID top 6 of Bertuzzi, Franzen, Pav, Filpula, Hudler, Zetterberg???

And we must like our 4th line so much, we play them 7 minutes a night.. must be part of that getting 4 lines going thing.  Lack of ice time really helps people find their grove.  And why should they get more ice time, it’s not like our top 6 has been struggling.

That’s one thing I do love about Torts is he holds players all to the same standard, no star player status where you get to do what you want and the coach has to beg you to play his way, he’s like a Platoon SGT that ain’t takin’ no shit from someone in his squad and they all better be on the same page towing the line.  Stars still get put on the bottom line and ride the pine with him.  That helps with the culture in the lockerroom too, creates a blue-collar feel to it, knowing that anyone has a shot on that team as long as you work hard, play the sytem and contribute.

Not so on the Wings.  You’ve been projected, this is where you’re staying, we’ll MAKE this work.

Frustrating.  You’d think he’d at least switch it up on the road where we’re struggling anyways, we have a better than 50% chance of losing and it’s been this way ALL YEAR.  They need a spark and if you’re not going to trade for it, then I don’t understand why we aren’t giving others opportunities with that ice time, besides the fact that they weren’t “projected” for it.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 02/27/12 at 07:31 PM ET

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If players see the coach is favoring people with a certain work ethic and temperment, the others in the team who want to succeed with the team with pick up on those tendancies.  Like in ‘08 when Pav was out there blocking shots and shit, before I knew it, all our lines were playing like checking lines defensively and leading to offense.  Since then I’ve noticed a greater trend in keeping players slotted in the same spot in the top spots, regardless of play, energy, enthusiasm or attention to detail.  But the bottom 6 is held to this standard, wtf uncle Mike, W.T.F.

And make no mistake, Babs didn’t “demote” Franzen to hottest line as penance for bad play, it’s because they have energy.  Since Franzen can’t seem to motivate himself…............

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 02/27/12 at 07:43 PM ET

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I’m not mad at Kenny for not going through with the Gaustad deal. We already gave up next years first round pick for Quincey, and to give up our 2013 pick would have been stupid. I do think the asking price was high for a guy that would basically be a strength/faceoff upgrade over Hudler for a few months.

My big question is why I didn’t hear Ericsson’s name on the trading block. We’re paying him way too much to be a 5-6 d-man, we have depth in that position (especially now with the Quincey deal), another team could get more use out of him, and it would’ve possibly allowed us to acquire a top 6 forward.

Posted by DrewBehr from The Mitten on 02/27/12 at 08:24 PM ET

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My big question is why I didn’t hear Ericsson’s name on the trading block.

He has a no-trade clause. Now, that’s something you can be mad at Kenny for.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/27/12 at 09:21 PM ET

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