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Frank RFA Talk

from Greg Wyshynski of ESPN,

Does the restricted free-agent system work? Is there a way to make RFA status kinder to the players, while maintaining the advantages for teams?

Or should we scrap the whole thing?

"If you're going to get rid of it, what are you going to replace it with?" asked played agent Lewis Gross.

Make everyone an unrestricted free agent, at all ages. How about that?

"Sure. That's a free-market society. Who wouldn't love that? We'll let the market dictate everybody's salary," said Gross. "I think we'd all be happy with that. Well, everybody but the teams would be, that's for sure."

Gross was one of several NHL player agents we contacted recently to ask how they would reshape restricted free agency if given the chance to rewrite that section of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. (We assume they'd then get NHL owners to agree to these terms through the use of hypnosis or hallucinogens.)

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Make everyone an unrestricted free agent, at all ages.

Yes please

Posted by Tripwire32 from Kay He Mar Heart on 08/08/18 at 05:11 PM ET

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Posted by Tripwire32 from Kay He Mar Heart on 08/08/18 at 06:11 PM ET

What, make 31 (soon to be 32) of the richest people in the world operate under the rules of capitalism? Never happen.

Posted by Steve in San Francisco on 08/08/18 at 09:44 PM ET

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What, make 31 (soon to be 32) of the richest people in the world operate under the rules of capitalism? Never happen.

Posted by Steve in San Francisco on 08/08/18 at 10:44 PM ET

If there is still a salary cap, it ain’t a free market.

Posted by EthrDemon on 08/08/18 at 11:55 PM ET

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  What, make 31 (soon to be 32) of the richest people in the world operate under the rules of capitalism? Never happen.

Posted by Steve in San Francisco on 08/08/18 at 10:44 PM ET

If there is still a salary cap, it ain’t a free market.

Posted by EthrDemon on 08/09/18 at 12:55 AM ET

Well, there ya go.

 

Posted by Steve in San Francisco on 08/09/18 at 06:43 AM ET

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Make everyone an unrestricted free agent, at all ages.

Yes please

While I understand that from a philosophical, free market perspective, I’m not sure I’d like that as a fan. It would make it that much harder for rebuilding teams to hang on to good young talent.

Imagine if Larkin, Mantha and AA were all UFAs this summer. Would any of them choose to stay with the Red Wings if they could get equal or better money from a team with a real chance to compete for the Stanley Cup in the next few years?

If they did do away with RFA I think they’d need to do away with guaranteed contracts.

Posted by evileye on 08/09/18 at 08:58 AM ET

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Posted by evileye on 08/09/18 at 09:58 AM ET

It would make it that much harder for rebuilding teams to hang on to good young talent.

Not necessarily. Doing away with RFA would change the landscape for every team. All the teams will be dealing with similar issues. Plus, there are a lot of other factors that will come into play with regard to roster formulation.

Imagine if Larkin, Mantha and AA were all UFAs this summer.

First, AA should have been moved already. If the other two made it this far without a contract extension offer from the team, they should be UFA. The practice is to not let a player get to UFA status. If a player is really in the team’s plans, then they should always be kept with a year or two under contract. If the player is unwilling to extend or no longer in the plans, move them on.

If they did do away with RFA I think they’d need to do away with guaranteed contracts.

I don’t see it, one has nothing to do with the other. Although, it brings up a good point, that currently, the default is a guaranteed contract. Whereas that could be a negotiated clause in a contract similar to No Trade agreements. There’s nothing really wrong about a guaranteed contract except for the application under the salary cap rules and 40 man roster size limit.

Posted by Tripwire32 from Kay He Mar Heart on 08/09/18 at 01:04 PM ET

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//I don’t live in San Francisco any more. But the rules of KK (as they should) do not allow me to change my name.

If you have a different opinion than me, you’ll have to come up with something better than making fun of my current location. I KNOW, RIGHT? as an argument for your point.

That said, trade Goose by December. He won’t get better. Bring up Zadina and Rass. Realize that D is the weakness. Trade Howie at the deadline to some desprate weirdo.

Lose for 3 more seasons! That’s the way forward.

Posted by Steve in San Francisco on 08/09/18 at 03:43 PM ET

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If they did do away with RFA I think they’d need to do away with guaranteed contracts.

I don’t see it, one has nothing to do with the other. Although, it brings up a good point, that currently, the default is a guaranteed contract.

They might not be directly linked but if the ownership is going to give up RFA, the NHLPA is going to have to give up something in exchange.

AFAIK, the CBA dictates that ALL contracts are guaranteed for full term with the exception of the buyout clause. As you said, being able to negotiate whether or not the contract is guaranteed would be ideal.

Posted by evileye on 08/10/18 at 08:06 AM ET

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