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Forsberg Retiring

note: original post time was 11:49am, Watch the Forsberg press conference below (2nd video).  It is scheduled to begin at 4:30pm ET.

added 4:55pm, Forsberg now answering questions in Swedish, so now the analysts are breaking down the conference.

via a Colorado Avalanche press release,

Colorado Avalanche forward Peter Forsberg will hold a press conference today (Monday, February 14) at 2:30 p.m MT. at Pepsi Center.

At that time, he will announce his retirement from the game of hockey.

added 12:16pm,

Forsberg talked with NHL On the Fly after his first game.  Watch it below…

Forsberg Press Conference is the video below…

 

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Hank1974's avatar

You had a great career Foppa. It was a pleasure watching your talent.
But this was long overdue.
Enjoy retirement.

Posted by Hank1974 on 02/14/11 at 02:55 PM ET

Chris from NOHS's avatar

Pathetic.  All around.

A player that was always about himself before the team.  Another proof of it today.

Posted by Chris from NOHS from Columbus, OH/Grand Rapids, MI on 02/14/11 at 02:55 PM ET

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Anybody know the real status of the Avs in relation to the cap floor?  They’re supposed to have a payroll of $43.4M to hit the floor and Capgeek shows them at $42.9.

Does Forsberg’s signing and immediate retirement put them over the cap floor in a manner that, without it, they wouldn’t be?

If that’s the case, then it’s a violation of the CBA and the Avs should be punished for it.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 02/14/11 at 02:56 PM ET

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Ha! Nice. I had thought Floppa would at least have played a game or two more than he did.

Posted by Jennemy of the Skate from the bar car on the stress train on 02/14/11 at 02:56 PM ET

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He should’ve signed a prorated $5M contract. Since it’s a 35+ contract, it would’ve counted towards the cap even in case of a retirement. Cap problems solved.

Posted by Teddybear from Sweden on 02/14/11 at 03:00 PM ET

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If available, I will stream the press conference in this thread and move it to the top of KK at that time.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 02/14/11 at 03:00 PM ET

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Press release will simply state: “Whatever it is that Brett Favre says every year.”

I loved Forsberg as a player, but this is getting to be a little bit absurd. It took him all of two games to realize he wasn’t up to it anymore? That seem’s pretty sad, but if that is what it took for him to be sure he could no longer do it, then more power to him and I hope he can make his decision final.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 02/14/11 at 03:10 PM ET

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A player that was always about himself before the team.  Another proof of it today.

Explain.

Posted by Garth on 02/14/11 at 03:11 PM ET

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Anybody know the real status of the Avs in relation to the cap floor?  They’re supposed to have a payroll of $43.4M to hit the floor and Capgeek shows them at $42.9.

Does Forsberg’s signing and immediate retirement put them over the cap floor in a manner that, without it, they wouldn’t be?

If that’s the case, then it’s a violation of the CBA and the Avs should be punished for it.

I’m no expert, but I thought all contracts for players over 35 still count regardless of retirement. I could be wrong though.

Posted by Hank1974 on 02/14/11 at 03:11 PM ET

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Thanks paul

Posted by Zaze on 02/14/11 at 03:12 PM ET

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I don’t remember what I said the last time he retired, so maybe we can bookmark this thread somehow for his next attempt.

In his prime, he was outstanding. Those days are past. The Avs should retire his number (so that he can’t come back again).

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 02/14/11 at 03:19 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

I’m no expert, but I thought all contracts for players over 35 still count regardless of retirement. I could be wrong though.

Posted by Hank1974 on 02/14/11 at 12:11 PM ET

Apparently, it’s a non-issue.  CapGeek’s twitter feed says the +35 contract bit in the CBA only affects multi-year deals, so his hit won’t stay on the Avs’ cap.

So it turns out it was an interesting angle, but the Avs had nothing more sinister in mind than perhaps a publicity stunt to sell more tickets gone wrong.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 02/14/11 at 03:23 PM ET

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=(

Posted by Mr. Fnytelhatt on 02/14/11 at 03:36 PM ET

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I can not fault the guy for trying.  Why are others so fast to fault the guy?  As fans we always want our athletes to seem more human that super human so when a guy tries to fight through what injuries he has to try and play a game instead of just relaxing at home enjoying the millions of dollars he has made over his career, i say bravo… nice try and good luck in the future with life.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 02/14/11 at 03:37 PM ET

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I don’t fault him for trying, this just seems a little odd that he changed his mind so fast, especially since it looked like he was at least keeping up out there. But hey, only he knows what his foot feels like, and even if the foot was fine, I can understand that having once been elite, how he wouldn’t want to settle for less.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 02/14/11 at 03:44 PM ET

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he played like 2 games yeah?> One against hte jackets I know for sure.. that’s banana’s.  All the time to train, to get up to game speed or as close as you can without playing, all the comeback fodder for the hippie aves fan and give up immediately?  Wonder how those young Aves are feelin’ about it.

Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 02/14/11 at 04:18 PM ET

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it seems pretty obvious that he felt he wasn’t keeping up. he even stated that practice was flying by him. he seemed to have doubts from the get-go.

and i’m definitely in the camp of applauding him for not going out without a fight. everyone seems to really trash guys who do this stuff (see chelli, brett favre, etc). i’d argue that these are the only guys who TRUELY play for the love of the game. i mean, Chelli, for one, played almost an entire season in the AHL because he couldn’t bear to let it go. I got the feeling he would have PAID a million dollars to play for a cup contender last year.

while i hate him for a lot of reasons, i know Forsberg has struggled mightily for a handful of years now trying to get back. again, he couldn’t let it go and didn’t ever want to regret the fact that he didn’t try.

yeah, guys of this ilk tend to play one more year than they should and fans seem to lose perspective over what that means. sure, a player needs to recognize that it’s time to hang it up (which Forsberg has obviously done), but i have a lot of respect for a guy who refuses to guess if that moment is truly here and puts it all on the line… often at the sacrifice of their legacy. it’s almost painful to watch these grizzled old guys cringe through a kids’ game, but that spirit is one of the things that i love most about sports in general.

i mean, can you only imagine if Nick Lidstrom had that kind of fire? he could play ten more years easy. i’m now picturing a 50 year old Lidstrom skating as the strongest 5th d-man in the league, playing for a half a mil a year. the absurdity of that is exactly why i love these guys so much. only a rare rare few play till the tank’s on fumes.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 02/14/11 at 04:29 PM ET

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I can fault him.  How many comebacks did or does he need to get the message that the game has passed him by?

I can’t fault one attempt, but this is ridiculous.

Has anyone called on Dater to make sure he hasn’t hung himself at this news or something?

Posted by Primis on 02/14/11 at 04:44 PM ET

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the level of “dick-ti-tude” here is astounding and this site is really turning into a huge bummer.

forsberg was an amazing hockey player (that i passionately disliked as a wings fan), but i can’t fault the guy for trying so hard to figure out a way to keep playing even though his body couldn’t handle it.

you guys act like he ran over your dog, stole your girl, and punched you in the face.

blah.

Posted by SK77 on 02/14/11 at 04:50 PM ET

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Posted by some kid on 02/14/11 at 01:50 PM ET

Quite a few of us agree with you, just ignore the rest of ‘em. wink

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 02/14/11 at 04:54 PM ET

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If this was his first attempt, I doubt anyone would complain.

You guys seem to forget this is NOT his first comeback attempt.

It’s amazing how narrow a scope some of you have, or lousy your memories are.  If you want to celebrate denial, go on ahead.

Don’t dare question those of us pointing out that he’s become a Favre-ish broken record.  Forsberg has actually been doing this “I’m retired… NO I’M NOT—wait, I am” routine since well before Favre even.  Since the lockout basically.

At this point it’s just attention-seeking.  It was clear to him YEARS ago that he was done.  And it was clear to the rest of us (except Deluded Dater) as well.

Posted by Primis on 02/14/11 at 04:58 PM ET

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Waiting for a press conference is hardly an excuse for jumping to conclusions.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 02/14/11 at 05:08 PM ET

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I don’t fault him for trying, this just seems a little odd that he changed his mind so fast
it seems pretty obvious that he felt he wasn’t keeping up.

I’m thinking all he wanted was to at play a couple games.  If he felt he could finish the season, fine, but I think he wanted to retire on (relatively) his own terms and wanted to prove that, even if he can’t sustain it long term, he can still skate in the NHL.  He wanted to sign with the Avs and retire as an active player, rather than as a guy who retired while on LTIR.

You guys seem to forget this is NOT his first comeback attempt.

Nobody’s forgetting that.  People just don’t care.  You’re the only one who seems to be crying about it though.

Honestly, what do you care?  How has this affected you adversely?

Why should he only be allowed one attempt at a comeback?  It’s not as if he came back, played for a few years, then retired and is now trying to play again as a 50-year old.  He never stopped wanting to play.  It’s not like he decided he didn’t want to play anymore and how’s gotten bored.  He hasn’t missed a season yet, playing at least a couple games.

Lastly, wh the f*ck are you to say he’s pathetic because he still has a passion for hockey?

Posted by Garth on 02/14/11 at 05:13 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 02/14/11 at 01:58 PM ET

Seriously, are you mental or something?

Posted by SK77 on 02/14/11 at 05:19 PM ET

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I’m not so convinced that this is the end of Foppa.
Who’s to say he doesn’t think his biggest mistake was coming back in the middle of the season when everyone was in tip-top shape?

I wouldn’t be shocked if he continued working out and then tried again in September when he’s on the same page as everyone else.

Posted by Hank1974 on 02/14/11 at 05:24 PM ET

Chris from NOHS's avatar

Explain.

Posted by Garth on 02/14/11 at 12:11 PM ET

Garth:  Here’s my opinion.  I don’t think much of the guy at all and here’s why.

http://nightmareonhelmstreet.com/2011-articles/february/peter-forsberg-a-talented-selfish-quitter.html

Posted by Chris from NOHS from Columbus, OH/Grand Rapids, MI on 02/14/11 at 07:06 PM ET

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Posted by Chris from NOHS from The University of Oxford on 02/14/11 at 04:06 PM ET

Wow.  There’s a whole lot of assumption and projection on your part, in my opinion.

But, hey, fair enough.

Posted by Garth on 02/14/11 at 07:37 PM ET

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The idea that Forseburg was one of the top forward ever is a joke. Look at his stats verse federov’s

http://espn.go.com/nhl/players/stats?playerId=262

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/stats?playerId=284

Posted by jtssrx on 02/14/11 at 07:38 PM ET

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I honestly gave him the benefit of a doubt and thought he’d last at least till the end of this season.

I gave him too much credit.

Posted by SYF from Zata's Epic Viking Beard on 02/14/11 at 07:47 PM ET

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Congratulations to Forsberg for a great career. 
The ‘Dique were a great team in the 90’s with Roy, Sakic, Blake, Forsberg, et al.  We didn’t like them, but they were a worthy opponent of the Wings.
Godspeed, Foppa!

Posted by w2j2 on 02/14/11 at 08:00 PM ET

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Lastly, wh the f*ck are you to say he’s pathetic because he still has a passion for hockey?

Posted by Garth on 02/14/11 at 02:13 PM ET

Yeah, such passion he quit after two games.

We here at KK only wish you shared a similar passion for posting here.  We should be so lucky…

Favre can’t make up his mind for 3 or so years and he becomes a continental joke.  Forsberg waffles for even longer (and is even less able to play) and somehow he’s a hero, and that’s ok?  Uhh, no.

Yes… it’s pathetic.  Just like it was when Claude LeTurtle couldnt’ let go, and just like when Chelios was playing in the AHL trying to hang on for just a shot at a few more NHL games.  When the writing’s on the friggin’ wall and you’re just ignoring it… there’s nothing admirable about that.  Nothing at all.

Quite frankly I’m a bit perturbed that the Avs played along with this little game…

Posted by Primis on 02/14/11 at 08:00 PM ET

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The sad thing is, where ever Primis goes, there he is.

Not every athlete gets to retire like Gretzky or Bourque. For most it is awkward (Guerin, Foppa, Chelios, Shanahan) and sometimes a bit ugly (Hull). I, for one, applaud their efforts and can relate (in my own way) to their desire to hang on as long as possible. The fire burns.

Sitting in front of your computer all day and calling out others is a bit different than actually living the life.

Posted by blammo from Vancouver, BC on 02/14/11 at 08:49 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 02/14/11 at 05:00 PM ET

I don’t think many of us are saying he’s a hero… just saying, what difference does this make?

I think it’s easy for us to say a player should hang it up before he falls apart and embarrasses himself.

The differences between Forsberg and Favre are numerous… that comparison is not fair.

- Favre played a position in his sport that is critical to the point that his decisions will greatly impact the rest of the team. You have to allocate a lot of money to a starting quarterback, and it’s important that he gets in lots of practice with the first team. If Forsberg were a goalie, or if he had been demanding a max salary in his various comebacks, perhaps the comparison would’ve been closer to valid.

- Favre was (relatively, by NFL standards) healthy right up until the final season of his career. Forsberg, on the other hand, was forced into missed seasons and “retirements” due to chronic injuries that couldn’t get right. Point being, Favre’s sideshow is just that—a sideshow—because he was in physical shape and the retirement decisions over the last few years were strictly emotional decisions. Forsberg’s back-and-forth is not something he’s chosen to do.

I will admit, maybe Forsberg hasn’t gone about his various comebacks in the smoothest fashion possible, but unlike Favre, he’s never knowingly and willingly jerked a team around. Everyone that’s waited for him has known, up front, that he has chronic injuries concerns, and as a result, his availability is tough to pin down. His issues have been as advertised, unlike Favre’s.

- Lastly, let’s just look at character. With Favre, we have reason to believe that his retirement fiascos were ego-trips based on what we know about A) his history of drug abuse, B) his history of cheating on his wife, C) his recently uncovered history of basically stalking people via phone and text messages. With Forsberg, he’s pretty much been a hockey player with a quiet, unassuming personal life since he was drafted. Not much reason to think that he’s done the retire/unretire gig just to get attention.

By the way, thanks for being so asinine that I have to defend Peter Forsberg. That stings.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 02/14/11 at 08:56 PM ET

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When the writing’s on the friggin’ wall and you’re just ignoring it… there’s nothing admirable about that.  Nothing at all.

Posted by Primis on 02/14/11 at 05:00 PM ET

By that logic, there’s nothing admirable about you still posting here.

Posted by WingsFaninCO on 02/14/11 at 09:05 PM ET

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When the writing’s on the friggin’ wall and you’re just ignoring it… there’s nothing admirable about that.  Nothing at all.

Posted by Primis on 02/14/11 at 05:00 PM ET

By that logic, there’s nothing admirable about you still posting here.

Posted by WingsFaninCO on 02/14/11 at 06:05 PM ET

Hahahahahahaha.  Boom.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 02/14/11 at 09:48 PM ET

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Garth,

I agree, but when you put together all those assumptions, you start to get a clearer picture of the guy. 

Either way, he’s no leader.  Talented yes, but not someone I’d want on my team as a leader.

-Chris

Posted by Chris from NOHS from Columbus, OH/Grand Rapids, MI on 02/14/11 at 09:54 PM ET

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At least now he should be finished with the “what ifs” in his own mind. He knows for sure whether or not he is capable of playing - and the answer is no.

It’s too bad he couldn’t have played those two games in front of his home fans, though. It would give them a chance to send him off for the last time.

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 02/14/11 at 10:31 PM ET

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it is totally insane that some people actually think a STAR player who’s rich beyond their dreams playing through injury, doubt, and criticism, tarnishing their hall of fame careers with substandard final seasons are doing so for some ego trip. how exactly does this boost the old ego? this goes for Forsberg, Favre, Chelli, Hasek or any other of these guys.

i actually think NOT being able to stay quit is one of the COOLEST things Forsberg has ever done. if he feels compelled to try again next year, more power to him… though this does really seem final. “retiring from hockey” seems to imply Europe isn’t even an option anymore.

one of the reasons hockey is the only sport that I really follow is because of the sharp contrast between its players and those in other sports. hockey players simply care more. it’s not about ego. it’s not about money. it’s often not even about winning (i mean, did Forsberg actually think the Av’s had a chance?) it’s about the game. it’s about putting your life on the line every shift. i’m not saying hockey players are better people or anything, I actually think the game itself requires players to put their heart and soul into every shift because if you coast in this game, you get killed.

but the heart and soul and love for the game is what it’s all about. my lasting memory of stevie y. isn’t him scoring or even him lifting the cup, but rather him pushing himself up off the ice with his stick after he could no longer even walk on his knee. that’s the heart i’m talking about. that’s the thing that drives guys like Forsberg to just keep trying. this is all these guys have done, every day, since they were little kids. his NHL career may have been 15 years or something, but he’s probably been playing hockey for 35. he knew at age 12 that he was probably going to be a pro, or at least going to attempt to be one. this is all he knows.

if you are going to sit and judge him for trying to hold on to the only thing he’s ever known, you have a clear lack of understanding of the human condition.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 02/14/11 at 10:55 PM ET

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By that logic, there’s nothing admirable about you still posting here.

Posted by WingsFaninCO on 02/14/11 at 06:05 PM ET

Hey, someone here has to be right when it’s unpopular… sorry I’m not a mindless sheep like some of you.  I have my own mind, thanks… no wonder people hate Wings fans so much.

if you are going to sit and judge him for trying to hold on to the only thing he’s ever known, you have a clear lack of understanding of the human condition.

Posted by perfection from Chicago on 02/14/11 at 07:55 PM ET

I’d have no problem with Forsberg trying to continue to ply his trade in the KHL or SEL or something.  I really wouldn’t.  If he really loves the game THAT much, he’d be willing to do that.  Mike Keane spent how many post-NHL years in the minors plugging away still until the absolute end?

For crying out loud ALEXANDER DAIGLE was still plugging away in Europe (DEL in Germany I think, or is it the Swiss league?) last year.  Yeah, THAT Alexander Daigle that supposedly had no desire or love of the game, and no heart.

That’s what everyone here seems to be missing.  If he (Forsberg) can’t be in the NHL, he doesn’t want to do it.  To him, it’s not worth it.  Whether it’s financially, or egotistically, or for whatever reason.  It’s not that he misses the dressing room, the road trips, or something like that because he could play elsewhere and do that.

There is no “for the love of the game” here.  He hasn’t been playing ANYWHERE else this year and only made a half-hearted effort in the SEL last year.

I cannot, and will not, applaud him for it.  He’s a friggin’ glory-seeker and nothing more or else he would have manned up at some point in the the past few years and gutted out a full season instead of prancing in just before the playoffs so he can be a part.

You want someone admirable?  How about Mark friggin’ Recchi, who is still playing (and producing) in Boston and never takes a night or even a shift off, and plays a physical checking game that has to do a real number on his body every game.  He played 81 games last year, and 80 games the year before that (between Tampa and Boston).

Forsberg hasn’t played 80 games in the last 5 years combined.  And that’s not necessarily because of injury… but because he’s chosen not to play anywhere.

Laud Recchi. THAT is dedication and love.  And he’s five years Forsberg’s senior, and I can tell you he has never played any easier or softer of a game that Forsberg did.

But hey, let’s all applaud the has-been that can’t let go, but also can’t ever really dedicate himself to the game enough to play anywhere unless it’s the glory of the NHL…

Posted by Primis on 02/15/11 at 12:08 AM ET

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I’d have no problem with Forsberg trying to continue to ply his trade in the KHL or SEL or something.  I really wouldn’t.  If he really loves the game THAT much, he’d be willing to do that.  Mike Keane spent how many post-NHL years in the minors plugging away still until the absolute end?

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Yes… it’s pathetic.  Just like it was when Claude LeTurtle couldnt’ let go, and just like when Chelios was playing in the AHL trying to hang on for just a shot at a few more NHL games.  When the writing’s on the friggin’ wall and you’re just ignoring it… there’s nothing admirable about that.  Nothing at all.

So is Chelios playing his heart out in the AHL admirable or pathetic then, because I’m getting mixed signals here?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 02/15/11 at 12:14 AM ET

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