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Fingers Pointing At Tortorella

from Ben Kuzma of the Vancouver Province,

Tortorella is in the crosshairs because of a 2-11-1 slide, his tunnel tirade to get to Bob Hartley that didn’t help morale and a preoccupation with push and pace. It has led to a rash of injuries and indifferent play and the inability to maintain consistency or have anything left in the tank.

Ryan Kesler, Daniel and Henrik Sedin rank first, seventh and ninth respectively in average ice time among all NHL forwards. Henrik is playing through bruised ribs, Daniel has a season-threatening hamstring ailment, and Kesler’s commando style invites injury. On top of that, the Canucks are 3-20-1 when trailing after two periods, have the 25th-ranked power play and 28th-ranked offence.

Those are fireable offences.

It’s probably why Tortorella held a heartfelt and lengthy post-practice talk with his players in the far corner of Rogers Arena. No yelling and screaming in trying to save the season — and his job.

“It’s about not giving in and the responsibility of being a professional,” Tortorella said of the exchange.

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added 10:57am, from Cam Cole of the Vancouver Sun,

On what basis does Tortorella deserve the chop? What has he done that he wasn’t supposed to do, other than charge the Calgary dressing room, get suspended, and pull for Sweden over Canada in Sochi?

Well, he snubbed Roberto Luongo in the Heritage Classic, and that was bad. But it was also the catalyst that made the Florida trade happen, and got the Canucks out from under $27 million of bad contract, so surely Tortorella gets an accidental gold star for that one.

Has he failed to ignite a fire under his players since coming back from his 15-day, pre-Olympic suspension? Yes, he has. In losing 12 of 14 games at a time when a playoff spot has been eminently available despite everything that’s gone wrong, the team over which Tortorella presides has played utterly without poise or confidence, blown leads, given up late goals, and made bushels of grievous errors in judgment.

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Primis's avatar

How can you blame Tortorella for continuance of a slide downhill that started before he was even hired?  You have to blame the GM, right?

Posted by Primis on 03/12/14 at 10:46 AM ET

Paul's avatar

Totally agree P.

GMMG should be the one feeling the pressure, moves he has made are very questionable.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/12/14 at 10:47 AM ET

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How can you blame Tortorella for continuance of a slide downhill that started before he was even hired?

Five straight years of top three finishes in the conference, and now they’re in 11th place.

This is the downhill slide you’re talking about?

Posted by Garth on 03/12/14 at 10:54 AM ET

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I am more of a Torts fan than not but that is due to his personality, rants, press debates, and fiery temper.

Having watched nearly all of the Rangers games in his last 2 seasons there it bordered on unwatchable Dead Puck Era eye sore hockey.  It was a HORRIBLE BORE.

This is been the worst possible misfit from the start both with Torts’ style of play and personality with a team that has been offense and finesse based with a loose culture.  I have little doubt Kesler wants out because of the culture shock and Torts’ 6 goalie offense.  The NYI disaster is evidence that he has been tuned out.  The antics against the Flames, while great entertainment, was the antithesis of the Canucks culture.

This hiring has proven to be a debacle of an idea but with 4 years left on Torts’ deal I can’t see him leaving.

I can’t believe I would ever say this but I feel sorry for Canucks fans that have witnessed entertaining hockey for several years and will now be put to sleep with the most boring style of play imaginable.  I can also tell you that Vigneault has made NYR much more attractive to watch.

So it’s a train wreck.

 

Posted by RockWestfall711 from Las Vegas on 03/12/14 at 11:17 AM ET

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Five straight years of top three finishes in the conference, and now they’re in 11th place.

This is the downhill slide you’re talking about?

Posted by Garth on 03/12/14 at 10:54 AM ET

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Wow yes, clearly winning a division that included MIN, COL, EDM, and CGY (aka draft lottery regulars as of late) was an achievement to write home about.  Because that was what guaranteed a “top 3” seed in the old format.  That division would have easily been the worst in hockey is not for the Southeast.

No, Vancouver did not just suddenly drop out of the sky.  They have not drafted well for a number of years now, and have not set up a pipeline that can replenish the system sufficiently (Mason Raymond is the most “impact” player they have drafted since 2005.  Really think about that).  And they have not gotten on the good end of trades.  So as the Sedins have probably peaked and begun decline, and now their two good goalies are both gone, and their defensive corps has not proven as good as they thought… there’s also no help on the way from within.

Or you can go ahead and cherry-pick data just to to try and be contrary.

No, I’m no fan of Tortorella, but this team is not in its current state because of him.  I’m sure he’s not HELPING, but… they’d be collapsing without him,

Posted by Primis on 03/12/14 at 11:25 AM ET

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via the CP,

Vancouver Canucks general manager Mike Gillis sidestepped questions about coach John Tortorella’s future, preferring to spread around the responsibility for this disappointing season.

Asked if Tortorella would remain the coach for the rest of the season, Gillis did not want to comment on “rumour and speculation” about the embattled coach.

The Canucks gave up seven goals in the third period Monday night in a stunning 7-4 loss to the short-handed New York Islanders. It was their eighth defeat in the past 10 games.

Gillis said the whole team “from top to bottom” has underperformed, not wanting to single out Tortorella.

He added that ownership has been supportive with resources as the Canucks go through a retooling effort

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Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 03/12/14 at 11:33 AM ET

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The Torts hiring wasn’t a good idea?

I’m shocked

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 03/12/14 at 12:05 PM ET

awould's avatar

I’m sure he’s not HELPING, but… they’d be collapsing without him,

They kind of are collapsing.

Posted by awould on 03/12/14 at 12:21 PM ET

Primis's avatar

I’m sure he’s not HELPING, but… they’d be collapsing without him,

They kind of are collapsing.

Posted by awould on 03/12/14 at 12:21 PM ET

I know.  That was my point, although probably poorly-worded.  My point was if he wasn’t there, they’d still be collapsing.  There wasn’t a coach that was going to fix them.  Torts probably was the best choice to break them the most-spectacularly though.

Posted by Primis on 03/12/14 at 01:01 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 03/12/14 at 01:01 PM ET

I agree. The GM has made some very bad moves and that team has been circling the drain slowly for a couple years. Now it’s close to the drain and much more obvious. Hiring Torts was a bad move, but probably wouldn’t have mattered too much. The goalie debacle alone should be a firing offense.

Posted by awould on 03/12/14 at 01:05 PM ET

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“a preoccupation with push and pace. It has led to a rash of injuries and indifferent play and the inability to maintain consistency or have anything left in the tank.”

If you removed the names of players and coach’s in the first two paragraphs, one may presume they’re referring to Detroit and Babcock. The similarities are alarming!

Posted by laszlo on 03/12/14 at 01:07 PM ET

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I’m enjoying every moment of this!! If the fans and media weren’t such obnoxious jerks for so long, I might, might feel bad for them. But they get what they deserve for being as delusional and arrogant as they have been for so many years. Plus Tortorella stinks.

Posted by pautna on 03/12/14 at 01:26 PM ET

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If you removed the names of players and coach’s in the first two paragraphs, one may presume they’re referring to Detroit and Babcock. The similarities are alarming!

Posted by laszlo on 03/12/14 at 01:07 PM ET

Not really, DET has no push or pace at all.  In fact, DET’s problem is the opposite:  too much standing around.

Posted by Primis on 03/12/14 at 02:44 PM ET

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Babcock’s entire MO is push and pace.  “if Weiss doesn’t like pace, he won’t like it here”. Babcock is a hard nosed western canadian who likes size and strength… and he wants to use it! Problem is, Holland continues to acquire finesse euro types.Two totally different styles and players.

Maybe Babcocks “system” is the problem (given the players we have). Maybe this is the reason for the injury’s? The lack of energy (second worst record in the NHL after leading in a game), inability to string 3 periods together… hell, even two games together!

Change the players or change the system.The differing styles don’t work together. just my .02.

Posted by laszlo on 03/12/14 at 03:08 PM ET

Gary A$$ SUCK !!'s avatar

Replace Torts with Pär Mårts.!!!  grin

Posted by Gary A$$ SUCK !! from Fort Myers, Florida on 03/12/14 at 03:32 PM ET

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