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“There gets to be a point in your season where you got to decide, if you think you’re a championship-caliber team, that there’s a right way to play. Unless you get 23 guys doing it the same way and wanting to do it, nothing’s going to happen.’‘

-Mike Babcock, head coach of the Detroit Red Wings.  More from Babcock by Ansar Khan of Mlive.

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Red Winger's avatar

Unless you get 23 guys doing it the same way and wanting to do it, nothing’s going to happen

As much as I don’t want to believe it, I think the Babcock magic has worn thin on a particular group of players. Not sure who those players may be exactly, but the overall effect is this team is losing a cohesiveness that championship-caliber teams not only need, but thrive upon.

Things need to change, but I’m not sure they can.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 03/06/11 at 11:07 PM ET

Heaton's avatar

Many people said the same thing around ‘00 about the Wings and Bowman.  If thats the case I think it says more about the players than Babcock as a coach.  It’s not like the Wings are 5-10 years removed from the cup.

Posted by Heaton on 03/06/11 at 11:14 PM ET

Denver Wings's avatar

As much as I don’t want to believe it, I think the Babcock magic has worn thin on a particular group of players. Not sure who those players may be exactly, but the overall effect is this team is losing a cohesiveness that championship-caliber teams not only need, but thrive upon.

Could have just been the way the story was written or the question was asked, but the comments from Z and Mule both sounded a little weird after coughing up a 3-goal lead in the 3rd.

Bottom line, without a renewed commitment to team defense - which we haven’t really seen from this team all year - we’ll be lucky to make it very far this spring.

Posted by Denver Wings on 03/07/11 at 12:08 AM ET

Nate A's avatar

Bottom line, without a renewed commitment to team defense - which we haven’t really seen from this team all year

Don’t worry, they’re just trying to prove they belong in the East.

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 03/07/11 at 12:19 AM ET

shanetx's avatar

Could have just been the way the story was written or the question was asked, but the comments from Z and Mule both sounded a little weird after coughing up a 3-goal lead in the 3rd.

Z has been this way for a while.  Babcock says something critical.  Lidstrom offers a slightly toned down version.  Z gives a bit of a contrary view, points out something positive or different to change the narrative.

A few games ago Babcock was all “we suck at home, have to win at home to win in playoffs”, Lidstrom took the, “We need to get better at home” angle, and Z came out with, “We react to much to other teams line changes at home whereas on the road they have to react to us.  We’re a pretty good team, let them adjust to us sometimes” angle that seemed to make sense.

It could be a schism in the locker room, but I doubt it.  I think it’s all smokescreen and, while perhaps not exactly orchestrated, it’s done for a purpose.  Babcock can get a message across and be critical but the players in the room feel that the team leadership is on their side (Z), while still agreeing with Babcock (Lidstrom).

Posted by shanetx from Floydada, Texas on 03/07/11 at 12:30 AM ET

redxblack's avatar

They haven’t thrown the playoff switch yet. They’re not racing for a position in the playoffs as they’ve destroyed their division. It’s a comfortable slog through the last quarter.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 03/07/11 at 01:56 AM ET

cainer4wingsglory's avatar

Destroyed their division? Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Hawks have won 8 straight and are only 6 points back with the same amount of games to play (16). It’s safe to say the switch needs to be turned on right about now..

Posted by cainer4wingsglory on 03/07/11 at 02:18 AM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

It could be a schism in the locker room, but I doubt it.  I think it’s all smokescreen and, while perhaps not exactly orchestrated, it’s done for a purpose.  Babcock can get a message across and be critical but the players in the room feel that the team leadership is on their side (Z), while still agreeing with Babcock (Lidstrom).

Posted by shanetx on 03/06/11 at 09:30 PM ET

Agree completely.

When asked about leadership in the locker room, Babcock said something along the lines of that he likes what Zetterberg brings because he thinks like a coach.  Based on previous talks of how Lidstrom is always good for his perspective, I think there’s a good thing going.

If Babcock has lost any players, I blame the players.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/07/11 at 03:10 AM ET

Crow's avatar

He said what needed to be said.  Now the ball is in the players court.  I don’t think the players are not listening to his message.  But I am not convinced that all of them are committed to following it.  Yes, their offense is still there, but we all know that its defense that wins championships.  So until they can show an ability to shut down teams consistently, there will be no off and on switch in the playoffs.

Posted by Crow on 03/07/11 at 03:14 AM ET

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