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“Should employees get 57 percent of the revenue? If I owned a company, I don’t want to give my employees 57 percent, so I understand where they’re coming from.  But why not just say, ‘Hey guys, let’s go 50/50 and see how this works for the next five years? Let’s just do it.’ It would really be nice to see guys get together and say, ‘What is BETTER for the game?’ Not what’s better for the players and not what’s necessarily better for the owners. What is better for the GAME. And sitting out is not."

-Orest Kindrachuk, former NHL player.  More quotes via Sam Carchidi of Broad Street Bull.
 

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Nah, since the players have gotten 57% of the HRR this clearly means the owners are evil, greedy, wrong and evil (again) for trying to get them to take less.

Also, evil.

Again, a 50-50 HRR split (assuming no hanky-panky in the fine print) is an eminently reasonable and fair split.  Owners put up all the money to run the league, staff the organizations, sell the tickets, provide transportation, medical care and housing for players on the road.  Players play the game, make the product marketable, and provide the flash and sizzle. 

50-50 is fair.

Yes, it’s a bummer that owners are locking out players over 7 points of HRR… but then again, 7 points of HRR is around 221 million bucks a year, at least.  So there’s that.

Yes, it’s a bummer that players are welded to their 57% of HRR,  However, it’s hard to sell the idea of a pay cut when the league is ‘growing’, albeit primarily through jacked up ticket prices.  (As a point of note, ticket prices have gone up 50% since 2003-2004.  Revenue has gone up 50% since 2003-4.  Note the correlation).

Posted by HockeyinHD on 09/17/12 at 07:33 PM ET

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so you are saying the ammount of people giving nhl (tm) money, are the same since 2003-2004? if we look at the attendance numbers your right, but even there is a slight decline since 2007-2008, 4.4% in absolute percentage (inlcuding the 50% ticket price growth). it’s money that’s lost to each side. the nhl is mainly responsible to keep it steady or growing. the players gave up lot’s of their pay believing to support the game and it’s reach to the world. now they realized it’s not working, it hasn’t been working for at least 5 years now.why should they still pay the price alone? the nhl does nothing but keep making things worse, by milking fans. they should better keep increasing the tv ratings by offering a better product . and how do you do that in sports? with better talent or better marketing. both things mean more money spent, i as a fan would love to see better talent instead of a better show.fans payed 100% of the growth, give us something in return!

Posted by Joe Z. from Austria on 09/17/12 at 08:06 PM ET

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“Should employees get 57 percent of the revenue? If I owned a company, I don’t want to give my employees 57 percent, so I understand where they’re coming from.  But why not just say, ‘Hey guys, let’s go 50/50 and see how this works for the next five years? Let’s just do it.’ It would really be nice to see guys get together and say, ‘What is BETTER for the game?’ Not what’s better for the players and not what’s necessarily better for the owners. What is better for the GAME. And sitting out is not.”

-Orest Kindrachuk, former NHL player.

... says the guy with no stake in the discussion.  What about the non HHR money the owners have coming in/out?  Not open for discussion?

 

Posted by bezukov from the kids are alright. on 09/18/12 at 12:00 AM ET

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I’d love to see a 50-50 split agreed upon. Then lets hear what kind of excuse Bettman comes back with at the end of a new CBA on that one. No crutch to lean on then, and he couldnt say it wasnt a fair split of shares. This is why I kind of doubt they take a 50-50 because it actually paints ‘em in to a corner even more with no excuse to fall back on and pointing the blame somewhere else. But hey what do i know? I’m just a dumb fan that screams “shut up and take my money.”

Posted by NIVO from underpants gnome village on 09/18/12 at 03:01 AM ET

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Gradually scale back the players’ percentage 1% per year over 7 years until it hits 50:50, and give the teams a sliding scale for payroll with respect to the cap so they can fill out the roster with say, 1.5x minimum salary per open spot when the contracts they already have are taken into account. Pay all existing contracts in full.

Let’s see what the owners find to whine about when the time for the next lockout comes around.

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 09/18/12 at 06:40 AM ET

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I’ve said it before that if they use the current HRR and slide down to 50/50 over the next five years, but use that 7% in an escrow fund for revenue sharing on the bottom teams it could conceivably be a fair deal.

I don’t think the owners will go for it. They want to set the bar so low that the weakest teams can be profitable and the strongest teams share absolutely nothing. They get to just charge as much as they cann without the expenses.

Posted by hockey1919 from mid-atlantic on 09/18/12 at 08:40 AM ET

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