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Edmonton Needs To Target Shea Weber In A Trade

from Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal,

I know Weber’s the face of the Predators, but I also know if the future Hall of Famer Pronger can be traded, so can Weber.

I also know Oilers president of hockey ops Kevin Lowe LOVES Weber.  Weber is in his prime, he’s 235 pounds, only Zdeno Chara shoots the puck as hard, and Z stands in front of the net on the Boston powerplay now.

So Weber, who probably has at least seven more years as an elite defenceman,  currently pounds it better than anybody else.

If you were the Oilers and Weber was in play, what would you be willing to give up?

Would you consider trading Taylor Hall or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins for Weber? I can’t fathom the Predators not asking for either Ryan Nugent-Hopkins or Taylor Hall, who might get 80 points this season, in any package for Weber.

Would that be a non-starter for the Oilers or is Weber, in his prime, too good to pass up, no matter the cost?

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More like… Franzen, nyquist and a 1st for weber so the red wings can have a solid 2 D paris lol.

Posted by Pasha1277 on 02/25/14 at 09:54 AM ET

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Assuming, of course, the Weber has any interest in playing in Edmonton.

Posted by MoreShoot on 02/25/14 at 10:05 AM ET

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Well as absurd as it sounds at first… it does make sense from the perspective that Edmonton does have what Nashville needs to make the trade work.  And of course Edmonton needs defense.  The only issue would be the amount of assets Edmonton would need to give up for only one defensemen.  Edmonton’s defensive problems are far deeper than any one defensemen can cure.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 02/25/14 at 10:08 AM ET

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Assuming, of course, the Weber has any interest in playing in Edmonton.

Why?  He hasn’t got a no-trade clause.  Nashville can trade him to whomever they please.

Edmonton’s defensive problems are far deeper than any one defensemen can cure.

I’m not sure I’d say they’re “far” deeper.  Getting Weber would mean they have a true number one guy (and an elite player in the league, at that), which means that pressure would be taken off Ference and he could basically assume the same role he had when he was paired with Chara.  It also pushes every other defenseman one rung down the ladder, so that they’re no longer player out of their depths and can develop as they need to.

Edmonton has guys like Justin Schultz, Belov and Petry who are decent with some upside.

I’m not saying that getting Weber is going to solve all their problems in one fell swoop, but that fact that he wouldn’t solve all their problems in one fell swoop isn’t a very good reason not to go after him.

Of course, having said all that, we’re talking about Edmonton, which means they’re almost likely to give away all their good offensive tools in order to bring in defense.  They really don’t seem to know how to attempt to improve one area without seriously damaging another.

Posted by Garth on 02/25/14 at 10:25 AM ET

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The thing that cracks me up is that the core group of players on Edmonton, who have been responsible for season after season of miserable failure, are considered so valuable and untouchable. Why are guys who score a lot yet continue to lose every season considered so great? I wouldn’t consider a single player on that team to be untouchable. Until Edmonton realizes the same thing, they won’t ever climb out of the basement.

Posted by VitoLambruski on 02/25/14 at 10:25 AM ET

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f the Oilers do move winger Ales Hemsky at the March 5 deadline (three more Oiler games — Minnesota, Calgary and Ottawa, all at home before then), they’re almost surely looking for a good prospect off another team not a draft pick.

They need people who can play now, not three years down the road.

Detroit and Pittsburgh would seem the most likely destinations…

Why on earth would the Wings give up a “good prospect” who can “play now” (someone like Jurco?) for a rental with just seven goals and 24 points. Not even the absense of Hank should lead Holland to a deal like that.

(Weber) cap hit is $7.857 million over the term of the contract. He does not have a no-trade clause, so he can’t thumb his nose at the Oilers.

Amazing. The Preds got Weber to sign without a no-trade clause, but Holland couldn’t get Sammy to sign without one. Something is definitely wrong there.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/25/14 at 10:30 AM ET

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Amazing. The Preds got Weber to sign without a no-trade clause, but Holland couldn’t get Sammy to sign without one. Something is definitely wrong there.

The Preds did not, the Flyers did. *Offer Sheet*

Posted by Russian Rocket on 02/25/14 at 10:36 AM ET

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Why on earth would the Wings give up a “good prospect” who can “play now” (someone like Jurco?) for a rental with just seven goals and 24 points. Not even the absense of Hank should lead Holland to a deal like that.

I totally agree on Hemsky. Unless Landon Ferraro and a conditional mid-round pick aren’t enough, then keep playing Nyquist/Tatar top-6 minutes.

I know one thing: the Predators have not had a high-end centre, ever. David Legwand has put up points, but he’s never been considered a first-line centre and a borderline top six guy around the league.  They crave a centre.

Wouldn’t you trade almost anybody off the Red Wings for Weber? I would move Datsyuk for Weber without much hesitation.

Posted by tekjansen on 02/25/14 at 10:42 AM ET

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The Preds did not, the Flyers did. *Offer Sheet*

Posted by Russian Rocket

Ahhhh. Forgot about that part of the offer sheet. Thanks.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/25/14 at 10:45 AM ET

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Eberle is the only Oiler I’m interested in.  I’m sure he’s going nowhere if there is any grey matter in that organization.

Posted by MoreShoot on 02/25/14 at 10:55 AM ET

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Why on earth would the Wings give up a “good prospect” who can “play now” (someone like Jurco?)

Why do you assume it would be someone like Jurco?

The Preds did not, the Flyers did. *Offer Sheet*

I may be incorrect, but I think I vaguely remember someone pointing out that offer sheets can’t have NTCs attached to them or maybe that if the team matches they don’t have to adhere to the NTC if it was included in the offer sheet.

Posted by Garth on 02/25/14 at 11:08 AM ET

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The Preds did not, the Flyers did. *Offer Sheet*

Posted by Russian Rocket

Ahhhh. Forgot about that part of the offer sheet. Thanks.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/25/14 at 09:45 AM ET

The Flyers’ offer sheet actually did include a no-trade clause.  The Preds were under no obligation to offer or accept that when they matched.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 02/25/14 at 11:09 AM ET

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I know one thing: the Predators have not had a high-end centre, ever.

Peter Forsberg says hi.

Posted by Primis on 02/25/14 at 12:38 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 02/25/14 at 11:38 AM ET

Peter Forsberg played for NSH for 5 minutes.

Posted by VitoLambruski on 02/25/14 at 12:52 PM ET

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J.J., I thought that the no-trade part of the contract that he signed was for the first year only.

Primis, Forsberg wasn’t “Colorado Forsberg” when he went to Nashville, so I would say that that doesn’t really count.

And I will say that there’s no way they trade him to anyone, for anything. Nashville’s philosophy from day one of the franchise has been to play defense and more defense, allowing shots while the goalie holds down the fort allowing what offense they DO have to eek out a 1-0, 2-1 game or to make it to overtime/the shootout to ensure that they at least get a point. Unless that team makes a head coach/GM change, that philosophy will remain the same and the Preds will be what they’ve always been, a middling team with a 25/75 chance of making the playoffs.

Posted by Chris in Hockey Hell from Ann Arbor, MI but LIVING in Columbia, TN on 02/25/14 at 12:58 PM ET

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J.J., I thought that the no-trade part of the contract that he signed was for the first year only.

That’s a rule for all offer sheets.  If the team matches the offer sheet they can’t trade the player for one year.

Posted by Garth on 02/25/14 at 01:03 PM ET

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Posted by Primis on 02/25/14 at 11:38 AM ET

Peter Forsberg played for NSH for 5 minutes.

Posted by VitoLambruski on 02/25/14 at 11:52 AM ET

The dude put up 15 points in 5 minutes? That’s amazing!  wink

Posted by SK77 on 02/25/14 at 01:15 PM ET

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I realize Poille was recently hit in the head, but I still don’t think he’s dumb enough to move his best player off of a team that’s 4 points out of a playoff spot, despite having its all-world goalie being out for 2/3 of the season and finally cleared to amp-up his workouts.

Posted by jkm2011 on 02/25/14 at 01:19 PM ET

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Why on earth would the Wings give up a “good prospect” who can “play now” (someone like Jurco?)

Why do you assume it would be someone like Jurco?

Posted by Garth

The question mark I added after his name means I don’t “assume” it will be him. I was questioning whether he might be the one they’d want because they’re looking for a “good prospect” who can “play now” and because not even Holland would be dumb enough to give up guys like Tatar or Nyquist for a rental.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/25/14 at 04:00 PM ET

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Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids, MI on 02/25/14 at 03:00 PM ET

Fair enough, I just think that Holland would be more likely to let go of one of the half dozen other guys who will be out of waiver options after this season is done.

He’s already gunshy about letting go of any picks or prospects, I would think that the Quincey trade would make him be very, very hesitant to give up a lot for a rental.

Posted by Garth on 02/25/14 at 04:06 PM ET

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