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Don’t Teams Ever Just Lose Anymore?

from Tony Gallagther of the Vancouver Province,

We all are learning to love conspiracy theories here in Vancouver with respect to hockey, so much so that we could be made honorary Americans who seem to celebrate the genre like nobody else.

So here goes, although sadly many Vancouver fans have suspected this one before.

Did you notice when the Montreal Canadiens were up big in their game against the Washington Capitals and were threatening to take a 2-0 series lead against the league’s most promoted team and most promoted player in Alex Ovechkin, they suddenly ran into a series of highly questionable penalties.

Odd how that happens, sort of reminds you of how a team threatening to take a big lead in nationally televised NBA game suddenly runs into weird offensive fouls and travelling violations while the trailing team seems to be able to pull a gun and not get a foul.

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It’s amazing how the idiots who think that BUTTMAN (LOL DID U SEE WUT I DID THERE?  I MADE IT BUTT INSTEAD OF BETT!  LOL!) created a league-wide conspiracy to get the Penguins to win the cup, now think that he has fixed every game their team loses.  That’s right Canucks fans!  You figured it out!  Bettman’s evil plan to let TV ratings POWERHOUSES, the LA Kings, get to the Stanley Cup Finals instead of the team featuring the highly marketable NHL leading scorer is working!!!!  HAHAHA!!!  Think of all the extra revenue the league will receive when selling all of that LA Kings merchandise!!!  No way would the league get more money from merchandise and TV ratings from a team in a gigantic hockey market that just had the Olympics and has Team Canada’s goalie!

Seriously, why can’t anyone just take a loss anymore?  You blew a 2 goal lead in 30 seconds.  Just like Montreal blew a big lead.  Calls will be missed.  It’s just how it is. 

Your team = CONSPIRACY
Opposing team = Bad luck

Man up.

Posted by Chase from Hockeyville on 04/18/10 at 04:40 PM ET

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to be honest, it is completely correct to say that penalties are all that have kept the kings in the series - they’re a good team, but even strength the canucks are just better.

however, the cause of those penalties is not gary bettman, but that walnut-brained, arse-witted excuse for a d-man andrew alberts.

it is possible for the better team to lose - but that doesn’t necessarily imply a conspiracy.

Posted by fredster from manchester on 04/18/10 at 04:55 PM ET

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While I think the whole conspiracy theory is ridiculous, I do have to question the league condoning a different officiating standard in the playoffs than what is used in the regular season.
In no other major sport is this an issue.  Although in the other “major” sports, they have taken steps to ensure a consistent level of officiating overall which the NHL refuses to do.
The “make up” call is a perfect example of why the league’s commitment to fairness is questioned.  Calls will be missed, but why call a “phantom” penalty to make up for it?
The NHL needs to take action about the inconsistency, Instead we excuses and flawed logic about how things are fine the way they are.  Same can be said of their disciplinary standard which has also been commented on time and time again.

Posted by grndlprm on 04/18/10 at 04:59 PM ET

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It’s amazing how the idiots who think that BUTTMAN (LOL DID U SEE WUT I DID THERE?  I MADE IT BUTT INSTEAD OF BETT!  LOL!) created a league-wide conspiracy to get the Penguins to win the cup, now think that he has fixed every game their team loses.

The problem with the Bettman conspiracy theories is that they assume that Little Gary and the NHL brass is competent enough to implement such schemes.

Posted by Incognetis from Delaware... Hi... I'm in... Delaware on 04/18/10 at 05:08 PM ET

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Calls will be missed.  It’s just how it is.

Must be a Pens fan.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 04/18/10 at 06:10 PM ET

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it’s no a conspiracy.  it’s incompetence.  don’t ask me which is worse.  both are pathetic.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 04/18/10 at 06:56 PM ET

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Game 7, 6 on 5, 30 seconds or so.

Calls will be missed.

Posted by scotts0 from New York on 04/18/10 at 07:13 PM ET

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We all are learning to love conspiracy theories here in Vancouver with respect to hockey, so much so that we could be made honorary Americans who seem to celebrate the genre like nobody else.

One thing is certain, whenever a Canadian writer is involved they take every shot they can at Americans.

If you watched the game LA outplayed Vancouver and deserved the win! Try that for conspiracy, no team from the sunbelt can ever be better than one from the motherland or hockeytown for that matter. It has to be a Bettman conspiracy as everyone knows they would lose without it. Whatever!!!

Posted by Timbits on 04/18/10 at 08:27 PM ET

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Teams will never just lose anymore.  Never.  You know why?

The internet.

Sure, there were conspiracy theories before the internet;  the internet didn’t create stupid.  It’s just more wide-spread and accessible, now.

People can say whatever they want on the internet and have no sort of fear to having to answer to their comments - no matter how inane or ridiculous what they type might be. 

Lack of knowledge doesn’t stop them, either.  When reason and facts render their “points” moot, what they revert to is conspiracy theories and childish, personal attacks.  Because they don’t have to answer for their actions.  They get to hid behind a computer screen.

KK is one of the better blogs because not only does the proprietor do his best to keep things hockey-related, but the commenters are - again, for the most part - some of the most intelligent and passionate hockey fans in the world.  There are exceptions, of course, but there always are.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 04/18/10 at 09:38 PM ET

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These Canadians are a sad lot. They have such an iferiority complex with the USA….Don’t blame Bettman when Vancouver loses…BLAME YOUR HORRIBLE GOALTENDER!!!!!! As for the Caps game…I will admit there were some fortunate calls for Washinton but no more so than a usual Saturday nite game in Montreal. And anyway when you are up three goals in a game you don’t lose PERIOD. No excuese….... Halak was horrible

Posted by kevin from boston on 04/18/10 at 09:57 PM ET

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Holy cow a Pen’s fan saying that the NHL is all legit all the time?  Let me find my shocked face.

Posted by Este on 04/18/10 at 11:39 PM ET

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Posted by Este on 04/18/10 at 10:39 PM ET

Like I said.  Exceptions to the rule.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Meriden, CT on 04/19/10 at 12:29 AM ET

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Game 7, 6 on 5, 30 seconds or so.

Calls will be missed.

Just like the two times with Z’s glove covering puck in the crease?

yep…goes both ways….

it all even outs in the end… yeah the refs most of the time are beyond retarded… and there is no consistency from game to game or ref to ref…its a crap shoot and you try to adapt within the game…

Posted by samsaidhey on 04/19/10 at 12:41 AM ET

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It’s always amazing how it’s the fans of the less-skilled(usually)teams are the first to cry conspiracy….Did you ever stop to think that some teams get the calls because they are more talented and create more opportunities to get those calls…No, that wouldn’t feed your paranoia….Conspiracy…gimee a break, people in the NHL aren’t smart enough to keep secrets let alone form a conspiracy on a grand level involving many people….but if it makes you feel better…keep on believing.

Posted by Jim on 04/19/10 at 12:44 AM ET

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Oh and another thing for you “the NHL doesn’t want any Canadian teams” in the Finals…Please explain the previous three Stanley Cup Finals before the last two Red Wings-Pens Finals?

2004—Tampa Bay vs CALGARY
2006—Carolina vs EDMONTON
2007—Anaheim vs OTTAWA

I"m sure the NHL fixed those matchups to get those huge tv ratings that a southern/newer market vs Canadian Team matchup would garner….I guess the Bettman just came to this conclusion and the first 15 years of his comissionership were just a setup so we can expect to see Penguins vs Red Wings from now on.

Posted by Jim on 04/19/10 at 12:50 AM ET

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Rule 74.1: “If in the course of a substitution either the player(s) entering the play or the player(s) retiring is struck by the puck accidentally, the play will not be stopped and no penalty will be called.”

Kevin Bieksa, the player involved, wondered Sunday what he was supposed to do. He was coming off the ice, bleeding from a skate cut to the face and obviously with no intent to play a puck that hit him in the skate.

It was the wrong call. Not just a bad call. But the wrong call. As in not knowing the rule book.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Bold+many+call+irks+Canucks/2922455/story.html

Posted by blammo from Vancouver, BC on 04/19/10 at 01:18 AM ET

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It was the wrong call. Not just a bad call. But the wrong call. As in not knowing the rule book.

Whether it was a bad call or not doesn’t change the fact LA outplayed Vancouver last night and deserved the win.

Posted by Timbits on 04/19/10 at 03:25 AM ET

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